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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2009 14:06:45 GMT
I was wondering if any one had an opinion of the Ritter Steel Celtic Flame sword kultofathena.com/product~item~2017.htm found here at Kult of Athena. My wife loves the look of this but wants a functional blade and if possible one that weighs a bit less, more around the 3lb 2oz range that her dance scimitars are. Suggestions appreciated.
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Post by YlliwCir on Jan 4, 2009 17:38:06 GMT
Welcome, DD. Looks like we're almost neighbors. I don't have that particular model tho I do own a couple Rittersteel pieces. I have their gladius and full tang katana. I find them to be heavy and bulky. They don't come especially sharp so that may be in your wifes favor if she want them for dance, keep in mind I know zero about dancing, but like I said a bit heavy and awkward.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2009 19:00:22 GMT
Actually, she does not wanting this particular piece for solely for dancing (those dances she would do with it would more "warrior style dances, not the "balancing" type) but for display and some light cutting practice. She just love kris style blades above anything else. I've just been having a difficult time finding a functional kris blade that's not a reproduction flamberge that I could only afford if I won the lottery.
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Post by YlliwCir on Jan 4, 2009 19:28:40 GMT
I'm not real familar with kris type blades. Cara did a review of one here; /index.cgi?board=swordreviews&action=display&thread=7804 Check out the website where she got that one. looks interesting.
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Post by 293master293 on Jan 4, 2009 20:13:10 GMT
If I remember right, Brenno purchased one of these awhile ago. You should ask him.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2009 21:01:48 GMT
I'm not real familar with kris type blades. Cara did a review of one here; /index.cgi?board=swordreviews&action=display&thread=7804 Check out the website where she got that one. looks interesting. My wife looked over that review and had me wish list Kris#4 from the same website. Southwest Indiana? We are almost neighbors ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2009 21:03:51 GMT
If I remember right, Brenno purchased one of these awhile ago. You should ask him. Prob will at some point.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2009 2:23:41 GMT
I don't know if you care about accuracy or not, but that thing is hideous and pure fantasy, lol. Such a sword would've never existed, as such I'm pretty sure that means it's weight is going to be ridiculous and off the scale, no balance to it, probably a semprini edge and on top of that rat tail tang is a possibility. Seriously, do you and your lady a favour and don't buy something like that. Also if your girl wants a kris, thats not a Celtic style at all. It's Filipino-Indonesian sword, you can buy good repros of these: traditionalfilipinoweapons.com/sandata.html
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2009 20:20:11 GMT
I have three Ritter Steel swords at home, but just like RicWilly, I don't have this exact piece. I've always enjoyed my RS swords and found then to hold up pretty well to (accidental) abuse. Seems like a good price and if she likes the looks, why not?
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Post by shadowhowler on Feb 19, 2009 20:59:51 GMT
If the sword ever existed at all historically doesn't mean anything... all that matters is that she LIKES it. Some people tend to forget that not all of us wish restrict ourselves to "what has come before"... some of of enjoy expressing our imaginations with our weapons. Check out BKS... I have seen some awesome kriss blades from them before. As for the Celtic Flame blade by Ritter Steel, I can't say one way other the other... I don't know anyone who has bought one. BTW... Blade Dancing is HOT... your a lucky man.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2009 3:21:51 GMT
Judging by what I know of ritter the sword will be a solid crowbar. I had in my possession a rittersteel celtic for a while and it was a really nice sword but when they invented it they didn't think about things like making it wieldable or balance or any of those things. It looked like a beautiful sword but as I said freakin crowbar, good for strength training though. The ritter swords edge and steel is not that bad actually, just the weight and balance which is pretty much everything.
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Post by shadowhowler on Feb 23, 2009 4:14:56 GMT
Judging by what I know of ritter the sword will be a solid crowbar. I had in my possession a rittersteel celtic for a while and it was a really nice sword but when they invented it they didn't think about things like making it wieldable or balance or any of those things. It looked like a beautiful sword but as I said freakin crowbar, good for strength training though. The ritter swords edge and steel is not that bad actually, just the weight and balance which is pretty much everything. Ah... thats a damn shame. I've been interested in the Celtic leafblade sword they have for awhile... ah well.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2009 9:26:49 GMT
Well you never know what you will like, I always liked my sensei's custom o-katana made to the same specs as musashi's but I know many people who don't like it. I think it is important to find these things out for yourself and not just take someones word on it.
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Post by shadowhowler on Feb 23, 2009 11:26:10 GMT
Well... I know what I DON'T like... and thats sharp crowbars. Handling and balance are very important to me. From what I have been able to gather, one thing you and I have in common is an affinty for shorter blades... so odds are if it felt clumsy and heavy to you, I'm not going to be a huge fan either.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2009 12:06:42 GMT
I guess that's true, well in that case absolutely avoid it, for a short sword even though I didn't get a chance to weigh it, the one I had in my possession had to weigh between 3.5 and 4 lbs and was tip heavy making recovery somewhat awkward. A leaf blade should be a relatively light quick blade especially for the length, maybe look at the KC it looks rather nice, might need a handle change but it is on my "I'm considering it" list.
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Post by shadowhowler on Feb 23, 2009 18:23:10 GMT
Yeah... RicWilly has, and has beaten the HLL out of, a KC Celtic sword and he says he loves his. The Ritter Steel one is about a 100 bucks cheaper, and had not been reviewed.... so I was considering picking it up. If it was good, I'd have a bargin on a sword that I love the looks of. If it was bad, well, at least I could review it and help out fellow SBG members who might be thinking the same thing I am. However... from what your describing, sounds like it's not worth it. A sword of that size and shape SHOULD be pretty light and easy to control and change direction with. If it's NOT... then there is no point. You give up a lot of range with shorter weapons... something I'm very used to from my knife and escrima training. However, if that lost range is NOT offset with the speed, balance, and control needed to work your way to the inside... then you are just handicaping yourself. Even though I MUCH prefer shorter weapons, since that is where the bulk of my training lays... I'd rather have a weapon with some reach then a short weapon that does not perform as it should.
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Post by YlliwCir on Feb 23, 2009 20:51:18 GMT
I've been working on a review of a Rittersteel gladius and I gotta say it isn't easy to handle. I got it off ebay for a bargain so I'm still glad I bought it, I'm a gladius junkie.
As to the Rittersteel Celtic. I do like the look of it tho I would expect it to be a bit over built as well. Still, I may pick one up if I ever find it for cheap. I wouldn't be inclined to pay full price.
Rittersteel does have it's appeal for me. I have their full tang kat and it's a beast but I have managed to cut decently with it.
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Post by shadowhowler on Feb 23, 2009 21:05:06 GMT
As to the Rittersteel Celtic. I do like the look of it tho I would expect it to be a bit over built as well. Still, I may pick one up if I ever find it for cheap. I wouldn't be inclined to pay full price. Of course you like the look of it, it looks almost exactly like your KC Celtic. Thats what cought my interest in the first place... I love the look and design of the sword, and the Rittersteel one is almost 100 bucks cheeper then the KC. In this case, tho, it seems it may be a 'you get what you pay for' kinda deal.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2009 1:07:42 GMT
has anyone reviewed a KC Celtic yet ? .......
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Post by shadowhowler on Jun 18, 2009 1:42:03 GMT
has anyone reviewed a KC Celtic yet ? ....... Right here... /index.cgi?board=swordreviews&action=display&thread=1938&page=1 Also, RicWilly may not have done a full on review.. but he has one and has posted his thoughts on it before.
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