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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2008 2:15:56 GMT
ADMIN: This excellent review has been moved and featured on the main site here: www.sword-buyers-guide.com/sword-cane.html
Some minor tweaks were made to include the keyword 'sword cane' slightly more often, and the scoring system was replaced with the new 'pros and cons' format - otherwise the review is unchanged.
Original images preserved here for posterity.
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    Statistics:| Blade Length: | 24.188 Inches | 61.438 cm | | Handle Length: | 4.875 Inches | 12.383 cm | | Hilt Length: | 8.000 Inches | 20.320 cm | | Overall Length: | 32.188 Inches | 81.758 cm | | Scabbard Length: | 34.813 Inches | 88.425 cm | | With Sword: | 38.000 Inches | 96.520 cm | | Ricasso Width(1): | 0.716 Inches | 1.819 cm | | Ricasso Thickness(1): | 0.240 Inches | 0.610 cm | | Blade Width(2): | 0.716 Inches | 1.819 cm | | Blade Thickness(2): | 0.236 Inches | 0.599 cm | | Blade Thickness(3): | 0.195 Inches | 0.495 cm | | POB: | 3.500 Inches | 8.890 cm | | COP(4): | 17.000 Inches | 43.180 cm | | Sword Weight: | 21.900 Ounces | 0.621 kg | | Scabbard Weight: | 16.250 Ounces | 0.461 kg | | Total Weight: | 38.150 Ounces | 1.082 kg |
(1) – Measured at the handle. (2) – Measured at ricasso. (3) – Measure three inches from end of blade. (4) – A very rough estimate.          Historical Accuracy: N/A Fit and Finish: 3/5 Handling: 4/5 Structural Integrity: 5/5 Value for Money: 5/5 OVERALL: 4/5
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Post by salvatore on Dec 10, 2008 2:35:10 GMT
Wow, great review mate. I've been wanting to see a review of this weapon. Sadly, NY doesn't allow sword canes, so the only reason I wanted to see the review was not for the sword cane, but to see if cold steel can back up their claims.
Performed pretty well for such a slim sword.
Sal
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2008 1:06:50 GMT
i was just looking at that sword in there catalog! but yeah it looks very nice i might just have to get it myself...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2008 21:26:14 GMT
Charles,
Thanks for this timely review and closeups of the blade.
I examined this sword-cane last weekend. I was most interested in overall weight (38oz) and how securely the sword rides in the sheath.
The first thing I noticed was how heavy the whole package was. At 38oz it is 8oz heavier than the CS blackthorn walking stick I just purchased!
The sword did appear to fit very snuggly in the sheath. I did not draw the sword, so I didn't see where the weight went--sheath or blade. (Your stats clearly show where.) I tried to see if I could make the sword rattle. It did eventually, but only after some effort. With normal use, the blade should not bang into the sheath wall.
Lastly, the sheath is broader than I thought it would be. It doesn't appear to taper and looks as broad at the ferule as the hilt. Does it taper?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2008 2:21:39 GMT
Charles, Lastly, the sheath is broader than I thought it would be. It doesn't appear to taper and looks as broad at the ferule as the hilt. Does it taper? It tapers very slightly. The sheath is 1.084 inches thick at the mouth and 0.981 inches at the point it enters the tip. About a tenth of an inch reduction in 33.125 inches. And thank you Larry and Salvatore for the kind words. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2008 8:33:10 GMT
Hi Charles,
This is a great sword (and I can talk to you because I also have experience with this cane) Great review. You gave a clear view on this item. Keep up doing the good work.
+1 from me!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2008 23:23:49 GMT
I wonder if there is or ever will be a single Cold Steel sword which is not too heavy? Probably not until they make one completely out of grivory.  Thank you Serge and thank you Skallagrim for the kind words. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2008 4:11:15 GMT
Nice review! What i really like about this one (as opposed to other sword canes) is that this one actually looks like a cane. Other ones aren't as well disguised as this one is. Funny,... i may need a cane soon! Might as well get one with a sword in it right? +1 karma  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2008 4:34:24 GMT
What i really like about this one (as opposed to other sword canes) is that this one actually looks like a cane. Other ones aren't as well disguised as this one is. Sorry for off topic, James, but I'm disagree with you on this on... Depends how much you are willing to pay Check this out, you'll love it: www.swordcane.com/burger_swords_home.htm |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2008 4:45:27 GMT
That is too cool, you can take it with you anywhere.  Karma worthy indeed. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2008 4:47:00 GMT
What i really like about this one (as opposed to other sword canes) is that this one actually looks like a cane. Other ones aren't as well disguised as this one is. Sorry for off topic, James, but I'm disagree with you on this on... Depends how much you are willing to pay Check this out, you'll love it: www.swordcane.com/burger_swords_home.htmWell those are nice! But not quite a disagreement... I was referring to the similar swords from manufacturers in this price range. Musashi, CAS, ect. ect. Your talking about a specialty company that makes (primarily) only sword canes,... so my opinion doesn't really apply there... Perhaps i should have been more specific?  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2008 6:10:41 GMT
Sword canes are really cool. If I was in a situation that would require me to use a cane for any reason, rest assured, it would be a sword cane.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2008 7:42:29 GMT
Funny thing, I have a sword cane and mine is a MUCH better weapon when not drawn. The blade is thin and basically crap...and it has a solid brass handle hehe . I wish I can order one of those burger knives canes...those are sweet. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2008 13:04:36 GMT
Thanks James for the kind words and karma. I appreciate it.
Thanks for the link Wasenshi. These folks make some pretty swords.
I did note a few things about them. The first is that the sword canes appear to have a button release which makes it pretty obvious that they are sword canes. In addition, the junction between sheath and handle practically screams sword cane.
The exception to this is the Mark IV. The Mark IV has the least obtrusive button and the junction is not at all obvious. It would be my first choice among their canes.
I also noted this on their web site.
Is this a suitable material for a sword blade? I'm just asking a question here, as this is the first I have heard of 440c martensitic chromium steel.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2008 13:08:32 GMT
Funny thing, I have a sword cane and mine is a MUCH better weapon when not drawn. My first sword cane was like that - as is a bargain model I picked up several years back. Both make better batons then the do swords. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2008 19:57:10 GMT
Thank you, Charles for your interesting revue, +1 to you. And I'm glad that you like that link The first is that the sword canes appear to have a button release which makes it pretty obvious that they are sword canes. In addition, the junction between sheath and handle practically screams sword cane. They also make the stiletto canes, which have a solid body without any buttons and you can remove stiletto from the top with some simple manipulations of your hand :  |
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Post by randomnobody on Dec 15, 2008 0:58:36 GMT
"The double sided hollow ground blade found on our Mark 2, 3 and 4 models is made of 440c martensitic chromium steel." Oh boy, stainless! So what we have here is overpriced, way-too-fancy walking sticks with wallhangers in them. I think I'll pass. Though the Cold Steel model reviewed here may be the second chance I've been waiting to give them... If only it were longer.  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2008 3:59:03 GMT
Oh boy, stainless! So what we have here is overpriced, way-too-fancy walking sticks with wallhangers in them. 440C Martensitic Stainless Steel 440C is a high carbon straight chromium high hardenability martensitic stainless steel, generally supplied in the annealed condition with a maximum Brinell hardness of 269 (Rc29) or annealed and cold drawn with a maximum Brinell hardness of 285 (Rc31). Characterised by good corrosion resistance in mild domestic and industrial environments, including fresh water, organic materials, mild acids, various petroleum products, coupled with extreme high strength, hardness and wear resistance when in the hardened and tempered condition. 440C due to its excellent hardenability is capable of being through hardened up to Rc60 depending upon carbon content and section size. Small sections can be air cooled and quite large sections oil quenched for maximum through hardness. Used for parts requiring a combination of excellent wear resistance, plus reasonable corrosion resistance. Typical applications are: Ball Bearings and Races, Bushings, Cutlery, Chisels, Knife Blades, Pump Parts, Surgical Instruments, Valve Seats etc. Material magnetic in all conditions. Wallhangers you sad ?  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2008 4:02:56 GMT
Magnetic you say?
It's worthless then, what good is a sword cane if you can't use it on magneto.
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Post by Marc Ridgeway on Dec 15, 2008 4:03:50 GMT
Oh boy, stainless! So what we have here is overpriced, way-too-fancy walking sticks with wallhangers in them. 440C Martensitic Stainless Steel 440C is a high carbon straight chromium high hardenability martensitic stainless steel, generally supplied in the annealed condition with a maximum Brinell hardness of 269 (Rc29) or annealed and cold drawn with a maximum Brinell hardness of 285 (Rc31). Characterised by good corrosion resistance in mild domestic and industrial environments, including fresh water, organic materials, mild acids, various petroleum products, coupled with extreme high strength, hardness and wear resistance when in the hardened and tempered condition. 440C due to its excellent hardenability is capable of being through hardened up to Rc60 depending upon carbon content and section size. Small sections can be air cooled and quite large sections oil quenched for maximum through hardness. Used for parts requiring a combination of excellent wear resistance, plus reasonable corrosion resistance. Typical applications are: Ball Bearings and Races, Bushings, Cutlery, Chisels, Knife Blades, Pump Parts, Surgical Instruments, Valve Seats etc. Material magnetic in all conditions. Wallhangers you sad ? Yep, he said it , and I agree with him... 440 is fine for many applications , but generally speaking ,swords is not one of them.. |
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