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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2008 2:58:58 GMT
On Discovery Channel here in the States there is a program called "Time Warp". They use a super high-speed camera to film all kinds of stuff. Tonight's episode was some katana practice using some unusual materials. I guess in the past they had a show with regular tatami. This time they used various items of food. Watching a blade slice a hanging salmon in ultra slow motion is very interesting. One of the more interesting cuts was a raw egg. The blade clipped a corner off the egg without shattering the shell. They also cut a pig shoulder with the bone in. Again watching the blade slice through the meat and bone in slow motion showed the cut finishing before the rest of the target barely registered the strike. It was easy to see why a katana was such a deadly weapon.
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Post by 293master293 on Dec 4, 2008 16:09:09 GMT
BTW, it was James Williams doing the cutting. No big surprise there, though.
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Post by ndirico on Dec 4, 2008 16:36:24 GMT
Someone's put it up on youtube...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2008 0:50:02 GMT
The video on YouTube must have been from the first time James Williams was on the show. That is not the same one as last night.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2008 18:22:33 GMT
Look at the sori of his blade....take note Chinese forges!
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Post by slav on Dec 6, 2008 18:40:28 GMT
I would wager that his sword was made by a Chinese forge.
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Post by 293master293 on Dec 6, 2008 20:05:42 GMT
In that video, he does back-up my theory of why curved swords cut better.......
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Post by slav on Dec 6, 2008 20:14:49 GMT
It's not you theory, Master. It is a physical truth.
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Post by 293master293 on Dec 6, 2008 20:18:14 GMT
It's not you theory, Master. It is a physical truth. WOOHOO! Take that people who didn't believe me!
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Post by 293master293 on Dec 6, 2008 22:36:14 GMT
Heres the new video:
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2008 2:41:35 GMT
Opinions are like...
I like the part about 5000 folds... Human torso's worth of resistance... lol.
Here's a hint: notice how much of a curve the edge that actually interacts with the target has.
Second hint if you can't get it: It's actually pretty straight!
Third hint: learn physics.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2008 3:05:04 GMT
Yeah, I noticed he made the mistake of saying "folded over 5000 times"
5000 LAYERS is very possible, but that only takes anywhere from 15-25 folds. lol
that host just made a katana-related epic fail. Right up there with the shop at home network "bang a wallhanger against a table" guy
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Post by 293master293 on Dec 7, 2008 6:37:06 GMT
Yeah, I left a comment saying that statement is BS a few days ago, but the owner deleted it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2008 14:41:58 GMT
...that host just made a katana-related epic fail. Right up there with the shop at home network "bang a wallhanger against a table" guy Nah... the 5000 folds comment didn't cause blood-loss. ;-)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2008 23:18:58 GMT
I got a kick out of James showing how the energy works on the body with the host as the test subject. That is amazing!
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Post by shadowhowler on Dec 9, 2008 3:06:41 GMT
I got a kick out of James showing how the energy works on the body with the host as the test subject. That is amazing! If your talking about the 'one inch punch' thing... don't be too amazed. I can do that, and I have only 5 years of martial arts training. It's an old trick that looks much cooler then it is. I first saw Bruce Lee do it way back.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2008 4:07:52 GMT
Well, not just the puch, but when he does it with a tap to the top of the head and also when he exerts the same type of power through his practice sword.
Is this something that is simple physics and practice? If so, what makes these techniques work?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2008 19:02:20 GMT
shadowhowler: I'm jealous Well .;I never trained this techniques especially.Was playing the role of the makiwara instead. What was said to me : "crumbling technique" (chinese as far i know) was designed to destroy internal organs, chase blood from a part of the body or doing sufficient damage to neutralize ennemy. Ennemy trained and full of adrenaline has a bad habit to resist better to strikes...so the strike has to be more internal and vicious. Of course there's a way to protect yourself but it requires also a special training involving breathing and Chi. Also anticipation of this strike. This kind of technique could be released from short distance and even point zero (contact). Could be very stealth (handy!). Just to give you an idea, I was hitten with it, having 3 kimonos piled, on the stomach.The strike went through the kimonos, through me and I felt pain (not a great I survived!) on my spine. He said he didn't give all the power ! (You B.รน$^* !) My master told me that one of his own master had a try with 11 kimonos (!! yes that's a great pile !!)...guess what... it changed nothing ! Sometimes you don't feel like training more would do a lot regarding to what you have to reach !! And I don't really want to imagine a katana strike using that kind of technique, even on wood or iron...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2008 0:20:43 GMT
If so, what makes these technques work? A relaxed volunteer whose postural adjustment strategies aren't quick enough (or are ignored/inhibited consciously... easy to do... tell them "just relax and this will hurt less") to stay upright. This is a parlour trick, nothing important to see here. If you can punch, you can learn to do this without too much effort.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2008 1:09:19 GMT
I wish people like this would do research before they commit things to posterity. The terms they were using and the lack of respect that they showed was an insult. For someone like James Williams to go on a show like this and show things that are generally only known by people within certain martial arts and then to call him a samurai sword master was patently ridiculous. He is extremely good at what he does though and I wouldn't face him.
I would love to see you do a proper one inch punch, it is said to be one of the hardest techniques to actually master.
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