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Post by Lancelot Chan on Sept 24, 2023 7:57:22 GMT
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Post by pgandy on Sept 24, 2023 13:19:47 GMT
I like this series.
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Post by Lancelot Chan on Sept 24, 2023 15:15:44 GMT
Thank you for watching. :D It shows the design of Supreme cutter line was not just to cut good, but to fight well, base on all my experience in facing unequal setup. In short, an excellent performing sword designed by top notch swordsman, just like a jet fighter designed by top gun fighter pilots.
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Post by takitam on Sept 24, 2023 19:14:49 GMT
Thank you for watching. It shows the design of Supreme cutter line was not just to cut good, but to fight well, base on all my experience in facing unequal setup. In short, an excellent performing sword designed by top notch swordsman, just like a jet fighter designed by top gun fighter pilots. Lancelot, My apologies, because this post will no doubt ruffle some feathers. My intention is simply to be critical (in an academic way) and helpful, but it's the nature of critical observations to evoke emotional responses sometimes. (Your post might be sarcastic. In that case my post becomes completely irrelevant and I made a fool of myself.) Another disclaimer: My opinion has no gravitas here on the forum or in the HEMA internet community. I'm a beginner myself, bordering low intermediate (instructor's assistant) in one weapon system. I have trained under one real master in my life. It was quite easy to notice that he is the master of his art, compared to many other teachers who were simply competent in what they did. Take my words for what they are. Modern HEMA (longsword being the most popular) or HA(sian)MA for example is still in its infancy. There are people who are talented and skilled in the art, but they are still amateurs. In a decade, if the sport keeps being popular, we may see the first generation of professionals - who started serious training as children under the eyes of competent teachers. Arrival of modern masters of this martial art will take more time. Please realize, that skills and high standards of many martial arts and sports took generations to establish. But almost all of them agree that fundamentals are the most important thing. And what are the fundamentals of fighting with bladed and hafted weapons in an one on one/one vs a few context? In my opinion, these are, in order: The art of movement - footwork, how to move and stay in control at all times. Which generally means staying low and is very difficult without a lot of physically intensive training. Managing distance - When am I safe and when am I in danger? At what distance can I engage the opponent. How to move when blocking and attacking? Defense - what guards do I use? How do I predict or provoke my opponents attacks? Can I keep being aggressive at all times to scare the opponent, create an opening or buy some time? Attack - How do I attack safely? How do I make sure to attack with an advantage? There are a lot more possible topics and different martial arts (bladed and hafted weapons only!) propose various solutions but they all (?) agree that attacking without a solid plan is a sure way to the other side. With that said my criticism begins. I'm going to only focus on the fundamentals of movement and control of your body. In my opinion, you have a looong way to go here. At the moment I can see complete amateurs who have little control of their body and movements. Not to mention weapons. Often loosing balance, sight of your opponent and not knowing how to block in a medium intensity sparring. A professional would see all of that easily in a fight and use it to his advantage every time. You would basically walk into your own death/serious injury every time against a skilled staff or sword fighter. He wouldn't even have to do much. He would use you against you. How do I know that? Because I sparred against skilled people and I think I have better fundamentals regarding movement and body control I'm not saying that I would fare better against you, I don't practice much unfortunately. And practice is super important. I think a lot of people failed to comment on your previous videos throughout the years, because they preferred to be polite and wanted to avoid any disagreements. I might be wrong. I want to believe that I'm being at least a little bit helpful here. What I see is a hobbyist and a fan of ancient weapons, like myself, training and sharing his hobby with others. This is great. But if you stay in your own bubble for too long, you might develop a very unrealistic vision of yourself and your abilities. And this is something that might get you seriously hurt one day. Too much hutzpah is not a good thing and I believe it is healthy to know one's limitations. There is a huge gap between amateurs and professionals in almost every sport. Every amateur sportsman who had a chance to train with at least national level professionals experienced this. HEMA doesn't have it yet but it will in the near future. Look at how fast and skilled professional sport fencers are. Don't just watch them on youtube, go train in a club. Look at guys from the second video in the link. They are also very good. They make mistakes but every real fight has them. sbg-sword-forum.forums.net/post/897055/thread I think I have written enough. I really hope that you will see some positivity and opportunity for improvement in this, but it's not up to me. I wish you the best of luck in your martial arts adventure. I have no doubt you have learned a lot and I appreciate you sharing this with other nerds online. HEMA for most of us is a fun harmless play. We are (with some exceptions) not martial artists but nerds playing with swords. Please don't let your confidence get you hurt outside of the sparring ring. There are some really dangerous people out there.
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Post by Lancelot Chan on Sept 25, 2023 5:46:59 GMT
Thank you for watching. It shows the design of Supreme cutter line was not just to cut good, but to fight well, base on all my experience in facing unequal setup. In short, an excellent performing sword designed by top notch swordsman, just like a jet fighter designed by top gun fighter pilots. Lancelot, My apologies, because this post will no doubt raise some feathers. My intention is simply to be critical (in an academic way) and helpful, but it's the nature of critical observations to evoke emotional responses sometimes. (Your post might be sarcastic. In that case my post becomes completely irrelevant and I made a fool of myself.) Another disclaimer: My opinion has no gravitas here on the forum or in the HEMA internet community. I'm a beginner myself, bordering low intermediate (instructor's assistant) in one weapon system. I have trained under one real master in my life. It was quite easy to notice that he is the master of his art, compared to many other teachers who were simply competent in what they did. Take my words for what they are. Modern HEMA (longsword being the most popular) for example is still in its infancy. There are people who are talented and skilled in the art, but they are still amateurs. In a decade, if the sport keeps being popular, we may see the first generation of professionals - who started serious training as children under the eyes of competent teachers. Arrival of modern masters of this martial art will take more time. Please realize, that skills and high standards of many martial arts and sports took generations to establish. But almost all of them agree that fundamentals are the most important thing. And what are the fundamentals of fighting with bladed and hafted weapons in an one on one/one vs a few context? In my opinion, these are, in order: The art of movement - footwork, how to move and stay in control at all times. Which generally means staying low and is very difficult without a lot of physically intensive training. Managing distance - When am I safe and when am I in danger? At what distance can I engage the opponent. How to move when blocking and attacking? Defense - what guards do I use? How do I predict or provoke my opponents attacks? Can I keep being aggressive at all times to scare the opponent, create an opening or buy some time? Attack - How do I attack safely? How do I make sure to attack with an advantage? There are a lot more possible topics and different martial arts (bladed and hafted weapons only!) propose various solutions but they all (?) agree that attacking without a solid plan is a sure way to the other side. With that said my criticism begins. I'm going to only focus on the fundamentals of movement and control of your body. In my opinion, you have a looong way to go here. At the moment I can see complete amateurs who have little control of their body and movements. Not to mention weapons. Often loosing balance, sight of your opponent and not knowing how to block in a medium intensity sparring. A professional would see all of that easily in a fight and use it to his advantage every time. You would basically walk into your own death/serious injury every time against a skilled staff or sword fighter. He wouldn't even have to do much. He would use you against you. How do I know that? Because I sparred against skilled people and I think I have better fundamentals regarding movement and body control I'm not saying that I would fare better against you, I don't practice much unfortunately. And practice is super important. I think a lot of people failed to comment on your previous videos throughout the years, because they preferred to be polite and wanted to avoid any disagreements. I might be wrong. I want to believe that I'm being at least a little bit helpful here. What I see is a cool hobbyist and a fan of ancient weapons, like myself, training and sharing his hobby with others. This is great. But if you stay in your own bubble for too long, you might develop a very unrealistic vision of yourself and your abilities. And this is something that might get you seriously hurt one day. Too much hutzpah is not a good thing and I believe it is healthy to know one's limitations. There is a huge gap between amateurs and professionals in almost every sport. Every amateur sportsman who had a chance to train with at least national level professionals experienced this. HEMA doesn't have it yet but it will in the near future. Look at how fast and skilled professional sport fencers are. Don't just watch them on youtube, go train in a club. Look at guys from the video in the link. They are also very good. They make mistakes but every real fight has them. sbg-sword-forum.forums.net/post/897055/thread I think I have written enough. I really hope that you will see some positivity and opportunity for improvement in this, but it's not up to me. I wish you the best of luck in your martial arts adventure. I have no doubt you have learned a lot and I appreciate you sharing this with other nerds online. HEMA for most of us is a fun harmless play. We are (with some exceptions) not martial artists but nerds playing with swords. Please don't let your confidence get you hurt outside of the sparring ring. There are some really dangerous people out there. I'm not HEMA. You made a mistake. However, since you mentioned gekikan, I happened to have sparred with this guy three times along the years. He was the national 4th place in Japan first national gekikan tournament. He's a koryu master of many different styles "武藏流" "二天流" "二天一流" "疋田新陰流" "關口流", also helped making several comic / anime "我間亂" "刀侍巫女" by providing martial arts guidance. budovideos.com/products/musashi-ryu-kenjutsu-dvd-by-takara-takanashiwww.amazon.com/-/zh_TW/Takara-Takanashi/dp/B00B8YV8BWwww.ko2.tokyo/archives/tag/%E9%AB%98%E7%84%A1%E5%AE%9D%E8%89%AFwww.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=183079www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=659265684217737&set=a.659265540884418.1073741832.122410021236642All three times I won. I mentioned before but I guess you did not pay attention. I won in many bouts against global and national champions, including but not limited to "China National Kendo champion", "Haidong Gumdo Global champions", etc, not to mention various tournament champions in city scale (Hong Kong, Beijing, etc.). Among them, some partners I sparred with even eventually become the leader of Battle of Nations teams of China and Japan respectively. I don't win all the bouts of course, some of them I only manage to make a draw, like "USA SCA National rapier champion" Tom Biliter, and 4 times Global champion of sport chanbara, Yan Poedinkov. However, I do won most of the bouts. Those two above were the "exceptions". Thus, due to the level of opponents I managed to handle, normally against a certain style teacher, the result would be often very one sided. Even some of my students / ex students have become school owner, and they won tournaments in China and Japan. So you know the caliber of the opponents I sparred with. Not to mention I won sharp sword duel before. You see, I just don't like to boast normally and I'm not going to talk about this again. ps. To put things to scale, here is a sparring demo I did with a Wing Chun sifu Au Yeung Gim Man www.vt.com.hk/teachers/yuanzhangouyangjianwenshifu/The result is 0:10, with 5 rounds I intentionally went easier on him. This is what happen if I spar with a school teacher normally.
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Post by Lancelot Chan on Sept 25, 2023 9:09:50 GMT
For those who are interested in how many skills were involved in my bout with Ibrahim from Mizongluohan, who also has Toyama Ryu training background, one may take a look at this "tactical debrief".
This video was made since a student of mine failed to notice how good Ibrahim was, and how many things I did in the background, in order to produce the one sided result. Thus I do the debrief as a tutorial of all the "devilish details" I did and to bring the due credits to Ibrahim.
The last question I asked my student who belittled Ibrahim was, "If it was you who were fighting him, can you do the one sided result like I did?"
He was left totally speechless, for he never managed to pull that off against no matter who.
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Post by pgandy on Sept 25, 2023 13:34:56 GMT
That one has to be your best video yet. Thanks.
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Post by Lancelot Chan on Sept 25, 2023 13:56:14 GMT
That one has to be your best video yet. Thanks. You mean the tactical debrief? Thank you so much for watching such boring stuff. :D
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Post by pgandy on Sept 25, 2023 14:36:54 GMT
That one has to be your best video yet. Thanks. You mean the tactical debrief? That's the one.
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Post by Lancelot Chan on Sept 25, 2023 14:51:33 GMT
You mean the tactical debrief? That's the one. That's basically the only time I did that to illustrate what went into work during the bout, not to show off, but to bring due credit to Ibrahim and enlighten my kinda-blind student, to correct his view. Thank you very much as always, for watching this work. :D
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Post by pgandy on Sept 25, 2023 15:43:02 GMT
It is the thought pattern, strategy if you will, that I’m most interested in. The technique is secondary to me, although not to be overlooked. I believe this is why I’ve been successful stick fighting in the streets. I’ve so far out thought my adversaries.
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Post by Lancelot Chan on Sept 25, 2023 15:50:16 GMT
It is the thought pattern, strategy if you will, that I’m most interested in. The technique is secondary to me, although not to be overlooked. I believe this is why I’ve been successful stick fighting in the streets. I’ve so far out thought my adversaries. You're correct! Thought pattern and strategy are above technique itself. The correct use of strategy against the opponent's choice of strategy, would bring lots of success despite a big difference in physical reach, power, speed, and techniques. Choosing the wrong one would bring failure even if one's much stronger than the opponent. In my system, there are 4 strategies with each one being good against another while weak against yet another, forming a full relationship among themselves. Techniques fall under these strategies categories and are like "execution methods". Yet, the main direction of the strategy is way more important and decide whether that exchange would yield good result or simply being suicidal.
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Post by Lancelot Chan on Sept 29, 2023 6:07:08 GMT
Some people criticized that Anderson were not able to use his reach advantage, so here's a tactical debrief about it.
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Post by Lancelot Chan on Sept 29, 2023 16:57:11 GMT
The combat ranking cutting test that changed the ranking, John Lundemo Longship Armoury swords cutting test.
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Post by Lancelot Chan on Sept 30, 2023 11:45:51 GMT
The last uncertain trio, Simon maru, Snowflake and Blizzard were tested and changed the ranking again!
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Post by Lancelot Chan on Sept 30, 2023 15:43:07 GMT
Full compilation of the Combat Ranking Cutting test and the patterns explained.
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Post by nikmiller on Oct 2, 2023 14:31:31 GMT
Lance Ive always been impressed bro. I remember you shwoing that fight with sharps.
Dont let the armchair quarterbacks bother you. Like Joachim Meyer said of fencing "one must prove it with iron"
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Post by Lancelot Chan on Oct 2, 2023 15:31:55 GMT
Lance Ive always been impressed bro. I remember you shwoing that fight with sharps. Dont let the armchair quarterbacks bother you. Like Joachim Meyer said of fencing "one must prove it with iron" Thank you very much. It's often disheartening to hear so-called criticisms from someone who doesn't spar in full body targeting, full speed with fully weighted simulators, and from those who don't cut or can't manage to cut the same difficulty targets. It's very refreshing to hear encouragement from fellow sword lovers.
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Post by Lancelot Chan on Oct 23, 2023 12:41:46 GMT
Supreme Cutter Classic cutting thigh target with only single leg standing.
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Post by Lancelot Chan on Oct 31, 2023 8:23:01 GMT
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