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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2008 1:15:39 GMT
I am pleasantly surprised to see some windlass (and a gen2) offerings at the 2lb-ish and below mark. In terms of the lighter single handers what I was thinking was out of this forums' price range... Atrim single handers are often quite light. There's also the not-particularly-attractive older Atrims at Lee's Armoury which are under USD300 but despite their functionality probably need a bit of cosmetic work: www.leesarmoury.com/ds1503.htmNeither of these resemble the sword you posted initially so they probably won't fit the bill...
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Post by swordboy bringer of chaos on Nov 4, 2008 1:37:14 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2008 1:53:11 GMT
she is a woman, don't underestimate her.
When looking at swords with my ex I got a very interesting looking into the mind of the female when she is looking at swords, it's rather scary how easily they can dismiss a blade for a single "imperfection".
No offense to the ladies of the forum.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2008 3:19:09 GMT
All suggestions have been turned down. She's seen all of them before, and the last one is a crusader style, which I guess is a no-no. I think at this point all I can conclude is that I don't know what she wants, and until I do, all of this is sort of moot. ![:(](//storage.forums.net/forum/images/smiley/sad.png) Sorry folks, and thank again edit: well, I guess a sword that looks just like the one that I posted but is light... maybe I need to go custom...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2008 4:24:27 GMT
I remember picking out a handgun for my aforementioned fiancee. She applied for and got her CCW permit. Thus began the gun shopping. We looked at everything together over a period of two months. She fired every gun I owned and then tried every rentable weapon at the range. She ended up settling on stainless steel Taurus .44 Magnum with an 8 inch ported barrel against my emphatic objections.
She got a concealed permit, and picked the largest physical sized handgun in the damn county. I was furious. It made absolutely no sense whatsoever. I've carried a G19 off-duty since 1994, and she goes and picks the least concealable handgun in the world totally defeating the purpose of her getting a CCW to begin with. The, she has the audacity to complain about the weight and how it won't fit in her purse. The result, she ends up carrying MY G19 as her CCW and the Taurus is gathering dust in the gun safe. I had to buy another G19.
Your results will end up being similar. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2008 4:58:22 GMT
Custom? How much are you looking at spending? Could end up being very pricey... In terms of custom work, this sword below seemed to be in the same theme... (wood grip, wheel pommel, cutting-y blade, celtic-ishy) there aren't any weights listed as the maker said he hasn't had the means to accurately measure it, though he did comment that it was light. I'd guess that something similar won't be anywhere near the price range of this forum, though! On SFI: swordforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92668Maker's webpage: maddwarfworkshop.com/Swords/Dohrtoc.htmAt 2 lb 13 oz, the Rittersteel Celic is about the same mass as many of the suggestions offered already... The finish looks pretty rough from the close up here: www.kultofathena.com/images%5C2045_3_l.jpg... maybe some clean up work at home might help out there and if you're handy with a file or have a low speed grinder it could be tuned to her satisfaction...
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Post by swordboy bringer of chaos on Nov 4, 2008 5:14:24 GMT
if your girl wants custom than get an angle grinder and some scrap steel and learn to make swords
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2008 5:18:14 GMT
All that effort for a first sword? Sounds excessive to me... Are you trying to imply that someone with an angle grinder and scrap steel can make a sword equivalent to a custom maker, or that it may be a cheaper option?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2008 5:27:15 GMT
out of curiosity, what about the sword that she suggested to you does she actually like?
Is it the Treskele? or just the shape of the pommel?
I do find the overall hilt/blade ratio fairly attractive, though as mentioned the engraving isn't that well done - you could probably do a good job of it yourself on a plain pommel of similar shape if you wished. Treskele needn't be too complicated in their design.
She says she doesn't like viking swords, however the blade on the Celtic _Norse_ does seem to be close to a type X, except that the fuller goes the full length of the blade.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2008 5:47:56 GMT
At 2 lb 13 oz, the Rittersteel Celic is about the same mass as many of the suggestions offered already... The finish looks pretty rough from the close up here: www.kultofathena.com/images%5C2045_3_l.jpg... maybe some clean up work at home might help out there and if you're handy with a file or have a low speed grinder it could be tuned to her satisfaction... It's kind of strange that the sword looks a lot nicer there than on ritter's own website! And it's not as heavy as I thought it could have been... hmmm. I guess it would depend on the CoG... mandoralin, it's a question I will have to ask
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2008 0:11:04 GMT
Does she want a sharpened sword, or a blunt for sword play? This could factor in. Have you seen this Gen2 sword? It weighs in just under 2lbs, has a little more handle and a similar cross hilt to the original pic: www.imperialcoinc.com/ProSword/ps703.htmlTry cruising the major sword suppliers together online and taking note of what she does and does not like about various swords. It might be your best bet, and could prove to be quality time for the two of you. ![;)](//storage.forums.net/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2008 0:48:55 GMT
I hate to rain on anyone's parade, but I have one of these swords. Mine must have been eating cheesecake on its trip here, because it tips the scales at 2.75 pounds. If the ones you have in stock actually weigh 1.5 pounds, I'd like to order one immediately - and I'm not joking. ![:)](//storage.forums.net/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by shadowhowler on Nov 7, 2008 2:24:46 GMT
If the ones you have in stock actually weigh 1.5 pounds, I'd like to order one immediately - and I'm not joking. ![:)](//storage.forums.net/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) I agree. I find it hard to belive it's that light... but if it is, I wanna handle it for myself. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2008 6:00:29 GMT
Hey folks An update. My attempts to contact rittersteel failed (the e-mail bounced). So I contacted kult of athena instead and got some more info. Interestingly, the PoB is 2 and 1/4 inch, which really surprised me. If this is true, it would make the sword very maneuverable, and would compensate for the 2 pounds and 13 oz weight... it almost seems like it's too short a PoB... For the Jeanne d'arc sword, knew that 1.5 pound seemed too good to be true. Of course, now I'm wondering if any of the stats posted are reliable! Hammersword: it would have to be at least somewhat sharp, so she can cut pumpkins with it. Thank you for the link you posted, I will pass this one on. She said that she liked the wheel pommel, the hilt, the triskelion the simple quillion (she doesn't like curved quillions, or ones that flair, or ones that are too long). Plus, it "calls to her" - something that quite frankly is hard to explain, although I think I understand the general concept. I've compared the photos on Ritter steel's website, and kult of athena, and the difference is quite striking... it's probably just a question of angle, but the proportions of the sword is apear rather different. The white background one is the one she saw first, and liked. I like the look of the second (red background) better myself. I've aligned them together to illustrate better: ![](http://ancalagon.8dimensions.com/sword/compare.jpg)
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Post by kidcasanova on Nov 8, 2008 6:38:31 GMT
It probably is just the angle. In the first picture it looks like the hilt is closer to the camera, so it will make the blade seem shorter. Rotate it counter-clockwise 90 degrees and you're basically looking down the blade from the hilt.
The KoA picture is more true to the proportions of the sword, and it looks a LOT better there than in did in the first picture.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2008 7:20:13 GMT
well.. as far as I've found, you can get the general blade/hilt proportion and quillion from a number viking swords.. however finding a viking sword with a wheel pommel will be a difficult stretch, though perhaps it would be possible to get the pommel swapped out to a generic wheel.. say something like a dsa early saxon with the pommel from the norman?
of course this won't really be light, but you get the idea.
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Post by shadowhowler on Nov 8, 2008 15:53:26 GMT
Ancalagon: I would say go ahead and order the sword she likes from KoA. It may seem a bit heavy... but if the POB is that close to the hand it might not matter. There is no way to be sure until she holds it in her hand. KOA has a very easy return policy for 45 days... that would give her time to dry handle it and see if she will be comfortable with the wieght. There have been plently of similar swords offered for consideration in this thread with less weight... and she has turned them all down. Obvously she is VERY picky. So if this sword is the ONLY one she has liked... grab it and hope for the best. ![;)](//storage.forums.net/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2008 3:58:40 GMT
grab it and hope for the best. hehe, yeah... might be able to shave off some weight with a file if that is still an issue. Best of luck in any case.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2008 15:36:48 GMT
I know this is not the style you are looking at.....but Hanwei has a model called the Hsu Miadao. This is a two hand sword that weighs in at 1lb. 13oz., is very sharp and attractive. produced by Hanwei so quality is top notch. I don't have pictures, go to hanweikatanaswords.com,the sword is regular 169.00 on sale now for 143.95. I own one myself, the sword is super lite, very quick,sharp and well balanced, will have no trouble at all with your pumpkin.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2008 2:09:35 GMT
Well, I've been thrown a curve ball! She also likes this one: www.armor.com/sword085.htmlNow, I know that Arms and Armor has a much better reputation than ritter steel, but does anyone have experience with this one in particular? thanks
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