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Post by Sir Thorfinn on Aug 16, 2023 22:28:01 GMT
BWHAHAHAHA
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Post by pellius on Aug 16, 2023 22:39:58 GMT
*chuckles*
Yep.
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Post by howler on Aug 17, 2023 0:49:24 GMT
Does Windlass still make the CS swords? What was that table top made of?
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Post by treeslicer on Aug 17, 2023 4:45:37 GMT
How dare you post something like this! It's incredibly annoying, because there's no way that I can adequately express myself about this video, and stay within the rules of the forum.
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Post by nddave on Aug 17, 2023 7:14:09 GMT
Does Windlass still make the CS swords? What was that table top made of? "Windlass doesn't make them but Cold Steel medieval models made in India (some are made in China too) are made by a secondary forge under the possible "supervision" of Windlass." Is what I was told directly by Windlass/MRL reps. There were and or are a few exceptions, for example a few of the Civil War era and military dress swords were made by or are the same models as Windlass models and of course the more recent Arbedo re-issue with the longer grip and different pommel and construction. Kinda funny, seems as a knife guy he doesn't have much respect for swords or sword enthusiasts. Definitely a heat treatment issue unless there was more done behind the scenes not seen on camera for example extra cuts to the desk or other targets that could have damaged the blade. Clean break like that at the C.O.P eludes to poor heat treatment.
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Post by larason2 on Aug 17, 2023 12:37:28 GMT
What surprised me was that he was surprised when it broke! It was a bit painful, as he seemed to have no idea how to use a sword (though maybe he was hamming it up for the video). Neither of his targets would have been a satisfying target for me, but maybe that was the point. If it really is a cold steel hand and a half made of 1060, I think it actually must have been heat treated ok, but then under tempered, which would have left it brittle. 1060 with a spring temper should probably bend before it breaks. I'm thinking maybe there was a steel pin or some kind of metal hardware inside that table where it was hit, though thick enough hardwood would also do the job! It almost looks like it's made of stainless! If it was mine I would turn both of the broken ends into shorter blades (though I might want to retemper them myself given this video!).
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Post by howler on Aug 17, 2023 16:39:20 GMT
Does Windlass still make the CS swords? What was that table top made of? "Windlass doesn't make them but Cold Steel medieval models made in India (some are made in China too) are made by a secondary forge under the possible "supervision" of Windlass." Is what I was told directly by Windlass/MRL reps. There were and or are a few exceptions, for example a few of the Civil War era and military dress swords were made by or are the same models as Windlass models and of course the more recent Arbedo re-issue with the longer grip and different pommel and construction. Kinda funny, seems as a knife guy he doesn't have much respect for swords or sword enthusiasts. Definitely a heat treatment issue unless there was more done behind the scenes not seen on camera for example extra cuts to the desk or other targets that could have damaged the blade. Clean break like that at the C.O.P eludes to poor heat treatment. Yeah, with all the CS torture test vids, proof test certificates, and home YouTube of people beating on them over the years, that sucker looked like a serious lemon of a heat treat issue.
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Post by pgandy on Aug 17, 2023 16:57:45 GMT
Yeah. I'll refrain from any further comments.
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Post by Sir Thorfinn on Aug 17, 2023 17:10:40 GMT
How dare you post something like this! It's incredibly annoying, because there's no way that I can adequately express myself about this video, and stay within the rules of the forum. You're welcome.
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Post by blairbob on Aug 18, 2023 15:53:52 GMT
this was great but he's wrong. Etsy does make swords so his fanbase should lay their money down
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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Aug 19, 2023 15:15:14 GMT
See and a few years back when I reported how easily a Cold Steel sword of mine broke some didn't believe me. I will never ever buy a new sword off of Ebay or Amazon. There's guys out of Pakistan claiming what they're selling a name brand but they're not what they're selling are knockoffs. Read the reviews some of the buyers are saying they're not what they're claiming they are. One buyer who bought what was suppose to be a Ryan Atlantean contacted Ryan and they said it wasn't their sword. I just bought what they claimed was a MRI Windlass Valeria sword with a COA, came in a plain cardboard box, no picture covered box and no COA. From now on KOA for me.
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Post by seth on Aug 30, 2023 1:52:42 GMT
I really love his channel. It's incisive humor combined with blades--the best of both worlds.
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Post by larason2 on Aug 31, 2023 13:13:55 GMT
I just bought an authentic cold steel hand and a half off a friend, and tried it out with some cutting (he bought it years ago though). It's really tough, tougher than I would have expected! It's actually a great blade, I don't think it would have broken so easily on a hardwood night table. I wouldn't be surprised if the one in the video was a counterfeit from Pakistan. Could also always be a lemon.
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Post by seth on Aug 31, 2023 14:25:23 GMT
Kinda funny, seems as a knife guy he doesn't have much respect for swords or sword enthusiasts. Definitely a heat treatment issue unless there was more done behind the scenes not seen on camera for example extra cuts to the desk or other targets that could have damaged the blade. Clean break like that at the C.O.P eludes to poor heat treatment. His knife humor is always self-deprecating too. There's a great bit here (at 2:05) that I (as Spyderco fan) am quite familiar with: I remember one of his videos stated his wasn't sure if he was going to keep adding to his collection because he was happy with all the knives he had that were currently collecting dust.
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Post by mrstabby on Aug 31, 2023 14:32:49 GMT
I just bought an authentic cold steel hand and a half off a friend, and tried it out with some cutting (he bought it years ago though). It's really tough, tougher than I would have expected! It's actually a great blade, I don't think it would have broken so easily on a hardwood night table. I wouldn't be surprised if the one in the video was a counterfeit from Pakistan. Could also always be a lemon. Yeah, I have definately seen CS swords take more abuse than that, and I have seen other swords being clobbered against a tree without shattering. It also looked as if it had no bend to it at all, is yours also that stiff? It probably would have shattered someday anyways, I mean it didn't seem a really low power swing, but neither was it full force.
I didn't know there were fake CS swords around, but not surprised, if its pakistani made probably cost 20$ to produce and you can sell i, especially on a bad cutt for 500$. Are there any threads or videos about fakes? Now I am interested.
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Post by howler on Aug 31, 2023 17:03:35 GMT
) I just bought an authentic cold steel hand and a half off a friend, and tried it out with some cutting (he bought it years ago though). It's really tough, tougher than I would have expected! It's actually a great blade, I don't think it would have broken so easily on a hardwood night table. I wouldn't be surprised if the one in the video was a counterfeit from Pakistan. Could also always be a lemon. Yeah, I have definately seen CS swords take more abuse than that, and I have seen other swords being clobbered against a tree without shattering. It also looked as if it had no bend to it at all, is yours also that stiff? It probably would have shattered someday anyways, I mean it didn't seem a really low power swing, but neither was it full force.
I didn't know there were fake CS swords around, but not surprised, if its pakistani made probably cost 20$ to produce and you can sell i, especially on a bad cutt for 500$. Are there any threads or videos about fakes? Now I am interested.
Agree. CS used to have proof certificates come with the blade, and their 1055 seems pretty tough judging by the thousands sold over the decades as well as viewing the corny videos they made. Hope nothing is going on after the sale of the company a few years back. Either a fake, a lemon (a fake lemon ), or he smacked into a piece of steel in the table.
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Post by larason2 on Aug 31, 2023 21:55:37 GMT
My cold steel hand and a half is definitely more flexible than the one in the video, but it's not as flexible as a thin spring steel blade. I'll post about it in more depth in the cutting thread, but I used it and a dojo pro against a 5 lb stack of cattail reeds, hitting them full force. Neither could make it totally through the stack, but both of them made it at least half way through! Each time we also took the reeds and the stand down. The reeds were a bit tougher than I thought they would be! Still, I would say the cold steel I have cuts just as well as the dojo pro, and is just as tough based on their performance and durability attempting to cut the reed stacks. Both were still just as sharp after cutting as they were before, and neither were scratched. I still have to try again with the stacks at half as much weight, I also have more details to post! What's holding me up is getting the video edited and posted.
Based on that, I agree in the video above probably fake/lemon/steel hardware in the table.
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Post by rschuch on Sept 13, 2023 17:02:48 GMT
What surprised me was that he was surprised when it broke! It was a bit painful, as he seemed to have no idea how to use a sword (though maybe he was hamming it up for the video). Neither of his targets would have been a satisfying target for me, but maybe that was the point. If it really is a cold steel hand and a half made of 1060, I think it actually must have been heat treated ok, but then under tempered, which would have left it brittle. 1060 with a spring temper should probably bend before it breaks. I'm thinking maybe there was a steel pin or some kind of metal hardware inside that table where it was hit, though thick enough hardwood would also do the job! It almost looks like it's made of stainless! If it was mine I would turn both of the broken ends into shorter blades (though I might want to retemper them myself given this video!). Yeah... all the prepping to suit up, half baked swings on the tree branches, and then the look of shock!
Guess he could take a few more swings and display it as Narsil... Attachments:
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Post by mrstabby on Sept 13, 2023 17:13:04 GMT
What surprised me was that he was surprised when it broke! It was a bit painful, as he seemed to have no idea how to use a sword (though maybe he was hamming it up for the video). Neither of his targets would have been a satisfying target for me, but maybe that was the point. If it really is a cold steel hand and a half made of 1060, I think it actually must have been heat treated ok, but then under tempered, which would have left it brittle. 1060 with a spring temper should probably bend before it breaks. I'm thinking maybe there was a steel pin or some kind of metal hardware inside that table where it was hit, though thick enough hardwood would also do the job! It almost looks like it's made of stainless! If it was mine I would turn both of the broken ends into shorter blades (though I might want to retemper them myself given this video!). Yeah... all the prepping to suit up, half baked swings on the tree branches, and then the look of shock!
Guess he could take a few more swings and display it as Narsil... The inverse IKEA Narsil set: You have to disassemble it yourself.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Sept 14, 2023 1:14:21 GMT
He'd probably hit one of these:
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