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Post by nerdthenord on Apr 4, 2023 20:32:02 GMT
Butter smooth action, and very attractive. Very lucky purchase, the store got it in last night and I snagged it this afternoon. .357/.38 special, 20” barrel, 10 round tube mag. A tiny bit over 6 lbs unloaded. Very handy and light.
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Post by exeter on Apr 4, 2023 23:02:38 GMT
Nice! Should be a sweet shooter.
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Post by carbon on Apr 4, 2023 23:16:59 GMT
Nice find! I'll be looking forward to your range report. Are you going to use the irons or are you planning on putting an optic on it?
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Post by nerdthenord on Apr 5, 2023 0:22:29 GMT
Nice find! I'll be looking forward to your range report. Are you going to use the irons or are you planning on putting an optic on it?
Right now the plan for optics is “maybe” an old fashion Vernier tang sight, to make it resemble the Cowboy Repeater from Fallout New Vegas more, and since they don’t obstruct the Buckhorn sights. For less intensive mods, I’m adding a leather stock saddle and sling, both with ammo loops. Other than that, no plans for mods. I heard people saying the trigger was too heavy for their likes and couldn’t disagree more. Any lighter and I’d be uncomfortable with the repeater.
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Post by nerdthenord on Apr 5, 2023 0:22:54 GMT
Nice! Should be a sweet shooter. Thanks!
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Post by unistat76 on Apr 15, 2023 3:46:20 GMT
I have one just like it. It will only get smoother as you shoot it. Mine is currently at the back door on coyote duty (that dang varmint got some of my chickens the other week.)
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Post by Lord Newport on Apr 15, 2023 5:47:54 GMT
Butter smooth action, and very attractive. Very lucky purchase, the store got it in last night and I snagged it this afternoon. .357/.38 special, 20” barrel, 10 round tube mag. A tiny bit over 6 lbs unloaded. Very handy and light. Nice gun... Congrats!
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Post by carbon on Apr 15, 2023 12:59:03 GMT
Have you had a chance to shoot the Rossi yet?
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Post by pgandy on Apr 15, 2023 13:30:35 GMT
I had one when they first came out, about 30 years ago? I liked mine but it appears they have made some change since, all for the better it appears. A SS option was not available back then. No matter as I would have chosen the blued steel. It seems that the forearm was slightly different, but can’t remember. The wood is less glossy on yours, that I like. Mine was too glossy for my taste. It looks like the rear sight has been changed to a buckhorn or semi-buckhorn, I can’t tell, that I like better. All-in-all I like the appearance of yours better. I never shot a factory load, only handloads in mine. I was loaned a M92 that had been re-chambered to .357 mag. that I bagged a few squirrels with. I can’t remember squirreling with my Rossi.
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Post by nerdthenord on Apr 15, 2023 14:20:24 GMT
I have one just like it. It will only get smoother as you shoot it. Mine is currently at the back door on coyote duty (that dang varmint got some of my chickens the other week.) Nice!
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Post by nerdthenord on Apr 15, 2023 14:21:08 GMT
Butter smooth action, and very attractive. Very lucky purchase, the store got it in last night and I snagged it this afternoon. .357/.38 special, 20” barrel, 10 round tube mag. A tiny bit over 6 lbs unloaded. Very handy and light. Nice gun... Congrats! Thanks! It's significantly more attractive in person than the official pictures or my phone pics can show as well.
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Post by nerdthenord on Apr 15, 2023 14:21:28 GMT
Have you had a chance to shoot the Rossi yet? Not yet, hopefully soon though.
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Post by nerdthenord on Apr 15, 2023 14:22:19 GMT
I had one when they first came out, about 30 years ago? I liked mine but it appears they have made some change since, all for the better it appears. A SS option was not available back then. No matter as I would have chosen the blued steel. It seems that the forearm was slightly different, but can’t remember. The wood is less glossy on yours, that I like. Mine was too glossy for my taste. It looks like the rear sight has been changed to a buckhorn or semi-buckhorn, I can’t tell, that I like better. All-in-all I like the appearance of yours better. I never shot a factory load, only handloads in mine. I was loaned a M92 that had been re-chambered to .357 mag. that I bagged a few squirrels with. I can’t remember squirreling with my Rossi. Yes it's a buckhorn sight. Agreed on the wood, it's much darker and nicer looking than the official pictures show as well.
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Post by howler on Apr 15, 2023 16:59:59 GMT
I think I'd leave it clean and clear of optics as it just don't seem right any other way.
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Post by Lord Newport on Apr 15, 2023 19:32:45 GMT
Thanks! It's significantly more attractive in person than the official pictures or my phone pics can show as well. I don't judge guns in looks anywhere near as much as ability. If it has a smooth action and is accurate, a stainless steel lever gun in .38 Spl. / .357 mag is a very useful and durable tool. Well the Model 92 was the gun John Wayne aways used. sportingclassicsdaily.com/wayne-s-rifle/
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Post by nerdthenord on Apr 16, 2023 0:38:11 GMT
Thanks! It's significantly more attractive in person than the official pictures or my phone pics can show as well. I don't judge guns in looks anywhere near as much as ability. If it has a smooth action and is accurate, a stainless steel lever gun in .38 Spl. / .357 mag is a very useful and durable tool. Well the Model 92 was the gun John Wayne aways used. sportingclassicsdaily.com/wayne-s-rifle/ Yep! Also a bunch of Spanish Tigre carbines were used in Hollywood, which to my knowledge is just an 1892 with very minor changes to comply with Spanish military standards. The fact the 1892 (and by extension the Tigre) had a strong action that could reliably and safely fire the standard blank loads used in Hollywood westerns made them the go to Carbine for decades.
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Post by pgandy on Apr 16, 2023 0:56:34 GMT
Yep! Also a bunch of Spanish Tigre carbines were used in Hollywood, which to my knowledge is just an 1892 with very minor changes to comply with Spanish military standards. The fact the 1892 (and by extension the Tigre) had a strong action that could reliably and safely fire the standard blank loads used in Hollywood westerns made them the go to Carbine for decades. The Tigres (Spanisih for Tigers) were M92s rechambered to the.45 Colt cartridge, and were intended for Mexico’s prison system. I remember when they hit the market as surplus. The price was right and I wanted one, but my buddy who I had faith in told me they weren’t any good. I don’t remember the date, but the best I can recall it was before needing a FFL dealer to receive. So, I passed up an opportunity. 😫
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Post by nerdthenord on Apr 16, 2023 1:11:34 GMT
Yep! Also a bunch of Spanish Tigre carbines were used in Hollywood, which to my knowledge is just an 1892 with very minor changes to comply with Spanish military standards. The fact the 1892 (and by extension the Tigre) had a strong action that could reliably and safely fire the standard blank loads used in Hollywood westerns made them the go to Carbine for decades. The Tigres (Spanisih for Tigers) were M92s rechambered to the.45 Colt cartridge, and were intended for Mexico’s prison system. I remember when they hit the market as surplus. The price was right and I wanted one, but my buddy who I had faith in told me they weren’t any good. So, I passed up an opportunity. 😫 Were they .45 Colt? I was under the impression that lever actions in .45 Colt weren't a thing until the 1930s or so because the .45 Colt had too small of a rim to reliably work with lever gun feeding and ejection actions, until they were enlarged and standardized some time in the early 20th century. I keep hearing they were .44 Largo, which supposedly was the Spanish government designation for 44-40 but I keep hearing mixed things about that. They were definitely used extensively by several Latin American countries, particularly for prison guards and other law enforcement, and were used extensively by the Guardia Civil and Guardia De Asalto, along with innumerable smaller organizations and militias, in the Spanish Civil War. I would absolutely love a real deal Tigre Carbine, along with a Destroyer Carbine.
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Post by pgandy on Apr 16, 2023 2:35:12 GMT
Were they .45 Colt? I was under the impression that lever actions in .45 Colt weren't a thing until the 1930s or so because the .45 Colt had too small of a rim to reliably work with lever gun feeding and ejection actions, until they were enlarged and standardized some time in the early 20th century. I keep hearing they were .44 Largo, which supposedly was the Spanish government designation for 44-40 but I keep hearing mixed things about that. They were definitely used extensively by several Latin American countries, particularly for prison guards and other law enforcement, and were used extensively by the Guardia Civil and Guardia De Asalto, along with innumerable smaller organizations and militias, in the Spanish Civil War. I would absolutely love a real deal Tigre Carbine, along with a Destroyer Carbine. Up until a few minutes ago my statements were largely based on hearsay as back in those days there was no Wikipedia nor Google, no Internet for that fact. I found this on the Tigre en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tigre_(rifle) . The ones I remember were in .45 Colt. I remember that distinctly. I also remember my buddy, the one who talked me out of buying, questioned the suitability of that round for the ’92. That was part of his argument against the rifle. I also remember that they re-chambered for that cartridge, I think from the .44-40. I can’t remember where I got the Mexican prison idea from, I think it was in the ads. There were many ads, I remember “The Shotgun News” carried them and I think the monthly gun magazines as well. Edit: I see from Wikipedia they were produced in several calibres over time and were bought by various governments and their agencies. So, I believe that what I saw was not a one shot deal as I had been thinking, but these rifles may have been release in separate lots over time with some variations.
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Post by nerdthenord on Apr 16, 2023 3:26:24 GMT
Were they .45 Colt? I was under the impression that lever actions in .45 Colt weren't a thing until the 1930s or so because the .45 Colt had too small of a rim to reliably work with lever gun feeding and ejection actions, until they were enlarged and standardized some time in the early 20th century. I keep hearing they were .44 Largo, which supposedly was the Spanish government designation for 44-40 but I keep hearing mixed things about that. They were definitely used extensively by several Latin American countries, particularly for prison guards and other law enforcement, and were used extensively by the Guardia Civil and Guardia De Asalto, along with innumerable smaller organizations and militias, in the Spanish Civil War. I would absolutely love a real deal Tigre Carbine, along with a Destroyer Carbine. Up until a few minutes ago my statements were largely based on hearsay as back in those days there was no Wikipedia nor Google, no Internet for that fact. I found this on the Tigre en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tigre_(rifle) . The ones I remember were in .45 Colt. I remember that distinctly. I also remember my buddy, the one who talked me out of buying, questioned the suitability of that round for the ’92. That was part of his argument against the rifle. I also remember that they re-chambered for that cartridge, I think from the .44-40. I can’t remember where I got the Mexican prison idea from, I think it was in the ads. There were many ads, I remember “The Shotgun News” carried them and I think the monthly gun magazines as well. Edit: I see from Wikipedia they were produced in several calibres over time and were bought by various governments and their agencies. So, I believe that what I saw was not a one shot deal as I had been thinking, but these rifles may have been release in separate lots over time with some variations. That’s pretty neat, them being converted to .45 colt. From what I’ve read, your friend wasn’t unreasonable to be wary of .45 colt lever actions because of the pre-upgrade .45 colt’s complete unsuitability for lever action carbines. I don’t have a date for when .45 colt was upgraded and standardized to have a larger rim that’s in line with other rimmed pistol cartridges suitable for lever guns, except it was some time in the 20th century, possibly as late as the 30s.
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