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Post by pete085 on Nov 3, 2022 9:29:25 GMT
Hi everbody that's more a project for the future because I am still saving for my yang ling dao
But after purchasing the yang ling dao I am interested in adding a quama to my collection. Which funtional quarma (it is going to be used for light test cutting) is the best one at the market the moment?
Would you recommend the Windlass one or the Devils Edge version?
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Post by The Blue Knight on Nov 3, 2022 12:29:42 GMT
I have the devil's edge damascus qama. I find it a bit clunky and the edges needed some serious grinding due to having big secondary edge bevels. With some serious tlc, the devil's edge is a bargain. If you are willing to spend a bit more, VT Daggers is based out of Georgia in Eastern Europe and they produce traditional qama/kindjal blades. They won't come sharpened, but they will have a single bevel that is thinner than the edge of a butter knife. VT Daggers Etsy: www.etsy.com/shop/VTdaggers?ref=simple-shop-header-name&listing_id=1040419454 |
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Post by skelley on Nov 3, 2022 13:40:06 GMT
I have the Devil's Edge single-edged qama and I like it for what it is. I can't say how it handles compared to others but it feels alright in my hands. It is 420 stainless steel though, so keep that in mind.
I haven't had the pleasure of handling anything from VT Daggers myself but I have read good things about 'em and they look real good too.
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Post by pete085 on Nov 3, 2022 14:00:13 GMT
Thanks a lot for the nice replies.. I have not heard about VT Daggers yet but their stuff really looks nice. Thanks for recommending them to me.
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Post by stormmaster on Nov 3, 2022 14:24:04 GMT
Do u mean the best maker or just what is available immediately, I found the windlass qama to be very decent for the price
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Post by pete085 on Nov 3, 2022 14:41:22 GMT
Do u mean the best maker or just what is available immediately, I found the windlass qama to be very decent for the price
When I made the post I was just thinking about readily available mass produced Quma. Was not thinking about going for a custom Quama when I was making the post but going custom is not an uninteresting thought to be honest. I would cost more than the standard ones but it would be worth it I think.
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Post by randomnobody on Nov 3, 2022 17:03:30 GMT
I understand the Windlass is decent for what it is, which is a budget-friendly replica of, if memory serves, the Red Army model from WW1/2. VT Daggers, as already mentioned, is also supposed to be very good but I've not had the privilege to handle one. Likewise, this guy has a great reputation, but I haven't handled them, either: www.etsy.com/shop/PesereyHandicrafts |
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Post by The Blue Knight on Nov 3, 2022 17:08:37 GMT
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Post by pete085 on Nov 3, 2022 17:31:38 GMT
randomnobody Thanks for your answer about the Windlass version and the link of the other custom maker. The Blue Knight Thanks for linking your review. It was a interesting read especially about the cultural/historic background of the shashka a weapon I am also quite interested in and one I do not know much about. So your informative post in the review enhanced my knowledge quite a bit.
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Post by howler on Nov 3, 2022 19:56:06 GMT
Do u mean the best maker or just what is available immediately, I found the windlass qama to be very decent for the price The Windlass is an incredible weapon for the (around $40) price point. |
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Post by stormmaster on Nov 3, 2022 21:49:37 GMT
Do u mean the best maker or just what is available immediately, I found the windlass qama to be very decent for the price
When I made the post I was just thinking about readily available mass produced Quma. Was not thinking about going for a custom Quama when I was making the post but going custom is not an uninteresting thought to be honest. I would cost more than the standard ones but it would be worth it I think.
if u want to see work that is perhaps the best in the world look up gotscha lagidse, I think he is the greatest maker of weapons from the caucasus living today, outside of my price range and most others tho |
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Post by randomnobody on Nov 3, 2022 22:37:41 GMT
... outside of my price range  Well, yeah, if it's outside of yours... 
Edit: Found his website, but no swords listed; only armor. Lots of photos elsewhere online but not much info to go with them. Boo.  |
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Post by stormmaster on Nov 3, 2022 22:59:28 GMT
... outside of my price range Well, yeah, if it's outside of yours...
Edit: Found his website, but no swords listed; only armor. Lots of photos elsewhere online but not much info to go with them. Boo. he is pretty active on fb, pictures of his work should show up if u Google his name and swords |
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Post by randomnobody on Nov 4, 2022 6:59:34 GMT
he is pretty active on fb, pictures of his work should show up if u Google his name and swords I did. Lots of pictures, but only pictures. I wanted to laugh/cry at how much they were fetching. |
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Post by pete085 on Nov 4, 2022 7:41:01 GMT
Thanks for the recommendation. I checked out his work and yes his work is simply amazing. Out of my reach unfortnately. howler I have to a agree. For the price point the Windlass steel quama looks pretty good. The only drawback is that is not sharpened by default. The swordstore in question to order the Windless quama from would offer sharpening service for 29 euro extra but I am not sure if this service can be trusted. Unfortunately I am not able yet to sharpen my swords myself yet. In the long run I need to learn because I am quite interested in test cutting though. The devils edge Quama is sharp by default I believe so it looks a bit more attractive. Fortunately i have got plenty of time for addtional research. The Quama is a project for next year. As I have said in the entry post my next upcoming sword is the yang ling dao from LK Chen I am saving money for now. |
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Post by stormmaster on Nov 4, 2022 12:01:08 GMT
he is pretty active on fb, pictures of his work should show up if u Google his name and swords I did. Lots of pictures, but only pictures. I wanted to laugh/cry at how much they were fetching. if you ask him for a catalog he will give u a pdf of options haha |
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Post by pete085 on Nov 4, 2022 13:55:17 GMT
I did. Lots of pictures, but only pictures. I wanted to laugh/cry at how much they were fetching. if you ask him for a catalog he will give u a pdf of options haha I would love to see such pdf as well but I do not dare to ask because I won't be able to afford a single peace of his work. So just asking without any intent of buying something is not cool. |
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Post by randomnobody on Nov 4, 2022 14:14:36 GMT
if you ask him for a catalog he will give u a pdf of options haha I would love to see such pdf as well but I do not dare to ask because I won't be able to afford a single peace of his work. So just asking without any intent of buying something is not cool. Yeah, I'm not gonna waste the guy's time. |
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Post by rich on Nov 4, 2022 17:22:03 GMT
I had one of the Windlass models I can't even remember what I did with it , seems they are all out of stock here now .
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Post by stormmaster on Nov 4, 2022 18:18:33 GMT
I would love to see such pdf as well but I do not dare to ask because I won't be able to afford a single peace of his work. So just asking without any intent of buying something is not cool. Yeah, I'm not gonna waste the guy's time. I took a glance at the 2016 catalog he sent me, and lo and behold the most affordable piece is indeed a qama. Only 11k euros even back then which is very high end but his work is peerless and if I was more interested in this area of swords I would of considered it, wish he did some viking or migration era pieces I would of been all over it, but everyone has their specialties |
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