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Post by Kane Shen on Oct 6, 2022 23:53:11 GMT
The long-awaited collaboration among Matt Easton, Royal Armouries and Windlass seem to be releasing soon. Pre-order is ready on the Museum Replica website. 3 single-handed swords and 3 two-handed ones are available and they aim to be direct replicas of originals at Royal Armouries in Leeds. The small details such as the central facets of the hexagonal cross section on the type XVII longsword seem to be fixed from the prototype, which had them too wide and too long. Distal tapering and weight seem to be on par with the originals. The price is comparable to the Albion Squire-Line swords, but with period-correct scabbards, wood core, leather wrapped, rain flaps, and with nice looking chapes. All blades are made of 1080 steel and none of them will come sharp due to restrictions of souvenir sales at British museums. The grips have the correct amount of risers, and the cord impressions seem to be on par with the Windlass contract for Kult of Athena's Balaur line. However, the grips on the Royal Armouries Collection all have correct geometries like octagonal cross section and proper tapers. Seems that all Windlass old models should be retired by now, as if the stats and photos are to be believed, these new ones are lightyears ahead of the old offerings in terms of...well anything. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2022 23:58:16 GMT
This had to happen now, when I'm cash poor. Oh Windlass, you have betrayed me. Surveying the offerings, they certainly do look MUCH better than typical Windlass fair, but I am slightly miffed about the blades not being sharp, but I certainly hope the edges are MUCH thinner than usual. It also looks like the guard openings don't look as tight as I would hope for. Especially since that's something Matt complains about repeatedly.
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Post by Kane Shen on Oct 7, 2022 0:09:38 GMT
This had to happen now, when I'm cash poor. Oh Windlass, you have betrayed me. Surveying the offerings, they certainly do look MUCH better than typical Windlass fair, but I am slightly miffed about the blades not being sharp, but I certainly hope the edges are MUCH thinner than usual. It also looks like the guard openings don't look as tight as I would hope for. Especially since that's something Matt complains about repeatedly. Yeah I would say Albion SL swords definitely offer better quality, but these come with very nice scabbards (no more floppy synth-leather sheaths that will rust your blades come with typical Windlass swords), and the edge seems finer than the typical 1.5mm rounded edge on Windlass, so sharpening is probably not too hard. The guard opening is a bit of a disappointment, hopefully it's nothing detrimental functionally. These are also very unique swords from history rather than the most generic models typify the kind in the Albion Squire-Line. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2022 0:15:54 GMT
This had to happen now, when I'm cash poor. Oh Windlass, you have betrayed me. Surveying the offerings, they certainly do look MUCH better than typical Windlass fair, but I am slightly miffed about the blades not being sharp, but I certainly hope the edges are MUCH thinner than usual. It also looks like the guard openings don't look as tight as I would hope for. Especially since that's something Matt complains about repeatedly. Yeah I would say Albion SL swords definitely offer better quality, but these come with very nice scabbards (no more floppy synth-leather sheaths that will rust your blades come with typical Windlass swords), and the edge seems finer than the typical 1.5mm rounded edge on Windlass, so sharpening is probably not too hard. The guard opening is a bit of a disappointment, hopefully it's nothing detrimental functionally. These are also very unique swords from history rather than the most generic models typify the kind in the Albion Squire-Line. I bit the bullet and pre-ordered the English 15th Century Longsword. Dangit! Did not want to do that, but I did it anyway. I really wanted the two-handed sword, but I went with this one because it spoke to me more in the moment. It seemed to say, take me home.
That little discount code we get for the forum talked me into it.
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Post by Kane Shen on Oct 7, 2022 0:19:31 GMT
Yeah I would say Albion SL swords definitely offer better quality, but these come with very nice scabbards (no more floppy synth-leather sheaths that will rust your blades come with typical Windlass swords), and the edge seems finer than the typical 1.5mm rounded edge on Windlass, so sharpening is probably not too hard. The guard opening is a bit of a disappointment, hopefully it's nothing detrimental functionally. These are also very unique swords from history rather than the most generic models typify the kind in the Albion Squire-Line. I bit the bullet and pre-ordered the English 15th Century Longsword. Dangit! Did not want to do that, but I did it anyway. I really wanted the two-handed sword, but I went with this one because it spoke to me more in the moment. It seemed to say, take me home.
That little discount code we get for the forum talked me into it.
Correct type XVII longswords are actually very rare on the market. Aside from the Albion Sempach and the Landgraf, your other option is Sterling Armory (Chris Field), until now. Great choice! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2022 0:22:33 GMT
I bit the bullet and pre-ordered the English 15th Century Longsword. Dangit! Did not want to do that, but I did it anyway. I really wanted the two-handed sword, but I went with this one because it spoke to me more in the moment. It seemed to say, take me home.
That little discount code we get for the forum talked me into it.
Correct type XVII longswords are actually very rare on the market. Aside from the Albion Sempach and the Landgraf, your other option is Sterling Armory (Chris Field), until now. Great choice! I thought so. The blade geometry looks excellent. Ultimately, if the stats on these are accurate, coupled with some upgraded fit and finish and a wood core scabbard, then this will be well worth the price. |
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Post by stormmaster on Oct 7, 2022 0:30:13 GMT
if they are doing a special makers mark i wish they didnt also do the regular windlass mark, the sword coupled with a wood cored scabbard actually seems like a great deal
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2022 0:32:48 GMT
if they are doing a special makers mark i wish they didnt also do the regular windlass mark, the sword coupled with a wood cored scabbard actually seems like a great deal The other mark can be removed in about five minutes, although I totally agree with you. I'll likely wind up modifying mine a little bit. Black just is not my color.
Actually, it looks like there is an etched makers' mark, a Windlass mark, and a Royal Armouries mark. WTF. Is this a Nascar vehicle or a sword? I have my grey scotch brite pads at the ready.
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Post by skelley on Oct 7, 2022 1:19:50 GMT
Very exciting to see! I myself am really drawn to the two-handed sword and the Wakefield falchion. I've been saving for something else but I may toss that to the wind for now... ah screw it! I'll see about ordering the falchion sometime tonight or tomorrow.
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Post by pellius on Oct 7, 2022 1:24:56 GMT
I have high hopes for the falchion.
I’d like to see a photo showing the thickness at the guard and the distal taper.
The specs look pretty good..could go either way, I guess.
Six hundred bucks for a Windlass.. I’m tempted, but I think I’ll wait for a review.
With the £ and (especially) the € so low against the $, genuine antique British police hangers in very good shape can be had for less; some nice cav and foot sabers, too. Not quite falchions, but they kinda scratch the same itch for me.
Plus, 600 is about halfway to an Albion or ATrim falchion. Tough sell, but I hope the line is successful.
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Post by alientude on Oct 7, 2022 1:26:17 GMT
Well, this was the last thing I needed right now. But I went ahead and pre-ordered the type XVII and Wakefield hanger. Hope they're worth the cost of a new Sempach!
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Post by AJGBlack on Oct 7, 2022 1:37:36 GMT
if they are doing a special makers mark i wish they didnt also do the regular windlass mark, the sword coupled with a wood cored scabbard actually seems like a great deal The other mark can be removed in about five minutes, although I totally agree with you. I'll likely wind up modifying mine a little bit. Black just is not my color.
Actually, it looks like there is an etched makers' mark, a Windlass mark, and a Royal Armouries mark. WTF. Is this a Nascar vehicle or a sword? I have my grey scotch brite pads at the ready.
Looks like the Windlass mark is hot-stamped, so it's likely as deep as a Balaur or Valiant mark. Not gonna come off with Scotch Brite, otherwise I'd have joined the fun. I hate obtrusive maker's marks. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2022 1:41:06 GMT
The other mark can be removed in about five minutes, although I totally agree with you. I'll likely wind up modifying mine a little bit. Black just is not my color.
Actually, it looks like there is an etched makers' mark, a Windlass mark, and a Royal Armouries mark. WTF. Is this a Nascar vehicle or a sword? I have my grey scotch brite pads at the ready.
Looks like the Windlass mark is hot-stamped, so it's likely as deep as a Balaur or Valiant mark. Not gonna come off with Scotch Brite, otherwise I'd have joined the fun. I hate obtrusive maker's marks. I'll get that thing off. I have ways.  |
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Post by AJGBlack on Oct 7, 2022 1:47:44 GMT
Looks like the Windlass mark is hot-stamped, so it's likely as deep as a Balaur or Valiant mark. Not gonna come off with Scotch Brite, otherwise I'd have joined the fun. I hate obtrusive maker's marks. I'll get that thing off. I have ways. Feel free to grind away, my dude lol  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2022 1:51:35 GMT
I'll get that thing off. I have ways. Feel free to grind away, my dude lol Oh no, I misunderstood. No, I won't be removing that makers' mark. I don't mind makers' marks. I mind the other marks like "Made in India" or "Royal Armouries". |
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Post by AJGBlack on Oct 7, 2022 1:54:21 GMT
Feel free to grind away, my dude lol Oh no, I misunderstood. No, I won't be removing that makers' mark. I don't mind makers' marks. I mind the other marks like "Made in India" or "Royal Armouries". Oh, totally. The rest of that stuff should come away with little if no fuss. |
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Post by Lord Newport on Oct 7, 2022 13:53:48 GMT
This line will definitely pull some demand away from Albion if the swords are true to their originals in weight/distal taper etc. Probably going to impact the prices of Albion's in the secondary market a bit too..
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Post by stormmaster on Oct 7, 2022 14:00:10 GMT
I dont think so, the fit and finish dont look as good even vs the squire line
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Post by Nox on Oct 7, 2022 14:04:38 GMT
The fact that they don't come sharp is kind of a pain. I will have to wait for Kult of athena to list them and select their sharpening service.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2022 14:05:37 GMT
I dont think so, the fit and finish dont look as good even vs the squire line I think you're right about that. The fit and finish certainly does not look as clean, specifically the lack of a super tight fitting of the guard. Still, I think there are some people who might actually prefer the handmade look of these blades. Albion will still be a cut above. This new line is just a good mid range option. |
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