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Post by bjoker on Oct 3, 2022 10:47:00 GMT
Hello everyone, I was talking to a friend and I thought I'd share the discussion with the forum friends too. If you were in a world where there are real monsters (that are not human beings, sadly they exist), for example the universe of the Witcher, the Ellder scrolls etc... and there were serious chances of having to defend \ fight against them, which of your swords would you carry on your side? Or on your back Only sword, dagger and knives, no spear, axe or guns.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2022 20:13:21 GMT
Unfortunately, we all beat this topic to the ground for the past few years. I would suggest reading the threads created by the Levin Lance, he has many great threads, each dealing with specific monster types and each members ideal strategy to over come them
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Post by howler on Oct 3, 2022 21:24:44 GMT
The monster will dictate the blade used, but I will add that you may wish/need to consider the utility aspect into the design because you also have to live, travel, build, destroy (basically survive), so logistics can play a vital role. Example would be battle axe, but you add robustness so it can be used cut firewood, bust down gates, etc...
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Post by Arlequin on Oct 4, 2022 14:19:17 GMT
Stout Estoc doused in the finest poison paird with a healthy sized shield so I can poke them to death from a comfortable distance
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Post by Sir Thorfinn on Oct 4, 2022 14:53:35 GMT
Yup, the critter defines the tool. Swords would be near useless against a Rhino...
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Post by Zen_Hydra on Oct 4, 2022 16:27:18 GMT
Yup, the critter defines the tool. Swords would be near useless against a Rhino... Rhinos have the same vulnerability as the maneater boars in Bloodborne. You just need the "bravery" to see it through.
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Post by Murffy on Oct 4, 2022 16:32:20 GMT
In open terrain, I'd be inclined toward a long sword -- a good thruster that can deliver hefty cuts in need.
In dense forest or jungle, I'd probably choose a large kukri, something that can penetrate thick hide and fur.
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Post by rschuch on Oct 4, 2022 22:30:04 GMT
In open terrain, I'd be inclined toward a long sword -- a good thruster that can deliver hefty cuts in need. In dense forest or jungle, I'd probably choose a large kukri, something that can penetrate thick hide and fur. Yeah, two handed kukhri for the win. Attachments:
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Oct 5, 2022 14:34:54 GMT
It depends on the monster. And it must be a monster that is beatable at all. I mean I don't see a real chance against an European Brown Bear of my own weight with a sword. Dragons, Giant Bugs, Minotaurs... no way. Better slow zombies and not too many of them. Someting like a dog/wolf or two, a boar (or similar monsters) would be a real challenge. Here I can think about which sword would be better to fight with. For higher class monsters I just can think of which sword I want to hold in my hand when I die.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2022 18:03:48 GMT
A minotaur might only be human sized with a bull head. So he might be beatable
As far as a bear goes, I been recently thinkng how impossible it would be to beat one, much less a monster that is bigger than a bear, without the use of traps, oil and flame, and things I don't have access to. Heck, even a gun would be risky against a bear, if you miss a vital organ and are very close to it
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Oct 5, 2022 18:28:44 GMT
European Brown Bears are in my weight class, why shouldn't they wear a sword too?
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Post by carbon on Oct 5, 2022 18:59:16 GMT
My choice would be an M6 bayonet with the M1A accessory attached. Should cover most monsters if properly used.
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Post by Lord Newport on Oct 5, 2022 21:23:23 GMT
Since we are dealing with "monsters" and fantasy...I want a "Light Saber"
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Post by zabazagobo on Oct 6, 2022 6:56:00 GMT
My Hattori Hanzo katana, of course.
Or a good pair of Muromachi-esque cleaver katana with a solid 34 in. of reach past the top of the grip.
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Post by zabazagobo on Oct 6, 2022 6:57:26 GMT
Yup, the critter defines the tool. Swords would be near useless against a Rhino... Rhinos have the same vulnerability as the maneater boars in Bloodborne. You just need the "bravery" to see it through. Isn't that the truth...man those boars mess you up if you let them call the shots.
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Post by Sir Thorfinn on Oct 6, 2022 14:12:07 GMT
My choice would be an M6 bayonet with the M1A accessory attached. Should cover most monsters if properly used.
I like it! And a little known *FEATURE* of that bayonet... If it gets stuck in the target, you can pull the trigger to loosen it.
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Post by RufusScorpius on Oct 6, 2022 15:36:22 GMT
The monster will dictate the blade used, but I will add that you may wish/need to consider the utility aspect into the design because you also have to live, travel, build, destroy (basically survive), so logistics can play a vital role. Example would be battle axe, but you add robustness so it can be used cut firewood, bust down gates, etc... Wrong. The blade will dictate how you fight the monster. You can't pack out, leave home or camp, travel through the wilds, encounter a monster, THEN get to decide what sword you will take with you from a week ago when you first packed out not knowing what random monster you might chance encounter. You will have to stand and fight with the sword you have, not the one you wish you had. With that in mind, I give everybody a Chinese wodao and you will have to fight an Oni in a village street environment. Okay..... GO......
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Post by RufusScorpius on Oct 6, 2022 15:36:49 GMT
My choice would be an M6 bayonet with the M1A accessory attached. Should cover most monsters if properly used.
I like it! And a little known *FEATURE* of that bayonet... If it gets stuck in the target, you can pull the trigger to loosen it. If I still have a bullet, there will be no use of the bayonet...
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Post by howler on Oct 6, 2022 19:52:40 GMT
The monster will dictate the blade used, but I will add that you may wish/need to consider the utility aspect into the design because you also have to live, travel, build, destroy (basically survive), so logistics can play a vital role. Example would be battle axe, but you add robustness so it can be used cut firewood, bust down gates, etc... Wrong. The blade will dictate how you fight the monster. You can't pack out, leave home or camp, travel through the wilds, encounter a monster, THEN get to decide what sword you will take with you from a week ago when you first packed out not knowing what random monster you might chance encounter. You will have to stand and fight with the sword you have, not the one you wish you had. With that in mind, I give everybody a Chinese wodao and you will have to fight an Oni in a village street environment. Okay..... GO...... Well, yes, you are correct in the GENERAL sense that you go out carrying as much gear as you can tolerate which covers everything you may think you need. And no doubt whatever you have on you will have to do in being used in a way best to defeat a deadly creature. But when we go camping or hiking we don't consider monsters, do we, particularly if there is a huge range in the type of monster encountered (think Godzilla vs zombie). Now if we are placed in a magical, fictional world where you know the "monster landscape", then I suppose you would probably carry a general assortment of monster tools (if light enough), and the ability to create weapons on the fly (like fashion a spear using a knife). So, I guess I'm saying we both have a point depending on the context.
EDIT: In reading the original question, we are in a magical world and just walking the landscape, so I would carry something that deals with the monster or monsters I would most likely encounter...so it again depends on the monster. You will still need to deal with day to day utility tasks, so factor that as well by carrying additional tools and/or adding that into your weapon design.
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Post by Elrikk on Oct 6, 2022 20:01:05 GMT
Vorpal?
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