Samurai vs. Spartans vs. Vikings vs. Knights

I understand, I accept you apology and at the same time offer my own. We've all been there when we first get into using forums.

I will try not to respond to any more of your comments in this thread, as hard as it may be....

Im sorry, I took your comment about the armor as an attempt to be ignorant and bellocose, rather than an inadvertent laspe of judgement.

But please, next time, dont incourage the argument by telling my and random that we have no balls, or whatever. Its simply not prudent.

"testosterone.." its hard to control.. when u were my age you were probably the same because our bodies are changing drastically

That in itself is scary to the umpteenth degree.

I am only a half year older than you. Testosterone is not an excuse.

Play football or something, dont release it on forums.

I apologized, and so did you. I believe its time we end this.

I tried to end it here, you wanted it to continue. Please, this is ridiculous, if you want the thread to end as well please stop trying to say I was just as immature as you.

Lol. Im not even going to open this thread anymore.

hey guys don't sweat it that hard............an amicable discussion is turning sour for a few misunderstandings............Ramm is right from the Japanese arsenal my best guess is that a Naginata would be the only weapon that would be able to threat plate armor. As Ramm said in other thread, Japanese armor is varied ranging from lamellar armor to forged steel plates attached to a leather/silk/other material shirt of sorts. I'll divide this mix up in categories:

Armor:

1st place Knights = their platemail armor is the most protective armor of the four

2nd tie Samurai & Spartans = Samurai armor was adequate as it covered the vital parts of the warrior instead of encasing him in steel head to toe. The Spartans did much the same as the Samurai armor, protected the vitals, and the shield gave them a huge defensive edge, however their heaviness of the armor makes it a tie instead of a sole second place

3rd Vikings: Unlike modern movies and other sources, Vikings NEVER used plate, in fact they rarely used chain mail. Most of their armor was made of leather and/or covered in animal furs. Aside from helmet and shield, in armor terms, they were severely inferior to the other three.

Weapons:

1st place Triple tie Knights, Samurai and Vikings= Knights possesed the amplest selection of weapons of the four, but the Samurai and Vikings both possesed specific weapons that would
counter the platemail armor namely the Danish Axe and the Naginata. Aside from that both Vikings and Samurai had equivalents in Spears and Swords

2nd? place Spartans = their long spears weren't for close quarters combat, and their short xiphos were inadequate against heavy armored knights, and more or less effective against samurai. The only ones they could muster an edge is on the Vikings and again their shields could offset their swords.

Discipline:

1st place Spartans = properly employed the phalanx formation was unbeatable both against cavalry and infantry. Under a skillful commander, melee combat (which i suppose would be the basis of this "competition") would be negated to zero for their opponents

2nd place Knights = either as heavy shock cavalry or dismounted walking tanks knights fighting as a unit were a terrible visage for enemies. However there is a big IF, knights were hungry for glory on the battlefield, and if they surrendered to their personal ambitions they could be broken

3rd place Samurai = in feudal Japan there were well organized armies consisting of cavalry, infantry and skirmish troops. Dismissing the Japanese as erratic fighters would be a big mistake, but like their western counterparts the knights, they had a tendency of seeking
glory in the battlefield, and if they fought without cohesion, they would be easily broken.

4th place Vikings = Vikings were formidable one on one warriors, but when fighting as an organized army, much of their history is bleak, Stamford Bridge being the epitome of it. More of skirmishers and raiders, Vikings would hold an edge over any army that is less organized than them. One notable exception is the Byzantine Varangian Guard made up exclusively of Vikings and/or displaced Saxons (after the Norman Conquest).

lukebaily I wasnt trying to start something, its just that we were both being imature