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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2007 2:13:18 GMT
I posted this too on SFI, but wanted to get advice here also. I have been looking for a travel case for swords. I would like to have one that would accomodate 3-4 katana type swords and maybe some accessories . It is for car travel, just to cutting parties and the dojo. I know Paul Chen has one, the PC2158 I belive, but I was wondering if there were any other options. I can imagine several types of items that might could be implamented (gun cases, duffle bags, instrument cases, etc.). If anyone has any ideas, I would be most grateful for your thoughts and suggestions!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2007 3:45:46 GMT
Im not sure where you live, but if your in a commonwealth country check out some of the better cricket gear bags, the grey nicolls predators fits Kats comfortably or if you need to supply the army a Gray Nicolls Team Cricket Holdall would work...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2007 8:50:00 GMT
I posted this too on SFI, but wanted to get advice here also. I have been looking for a travel case for swords. I would like to have one that would accomodate 3-4 katana type swords and maybe some accessories . It is for car travel, just to cutting parties and the dojo. I know Paul Chen has one, the PC2158 I belive, but I was wondering if there were any other options. I can imagine several types of items that might could be implamented (gun cases, duffle bags, instrument cases, etc.). If anyone has any ideas, I would be most grateful for your thoughts and suggestions! Dan Smiddy G'day Dan , I have one of these babies and it fits a Jo ,bokken and an Iaito. It is snug but is very strongly made. I replaced the strap with one off my kitbag so it is more comfortable .The material it is made of is strong but a little scratchie on the skin. Good bag though, just read the reviews . They have a 15 shinai bag as well that fits about 5 shinken,e.t.c www.e-bogu.com/Versatile_5_hold_Shinai_Bag_p/jur-bag-shi-5hold--.htm
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2007 2:55:52 GMT
I posted this too on SFI, but wanted to get advice here also. I have been looking for a travel case for swords. I would like to have one that would accomodate 3-4 katana type swords and maybe some accessories . It is for car travel, just to cutting parties and the dojo. I know Paul Chen has one, the PC2158 I belive, but I was wondering if there were any other options. I can imagine several types of items that might could be implamented (gun cases, duffle bags, instrument cases, etc.). If anyone has any ideas, I would be most grateful for your thoughts and suggestions! Dan Smiddy G'day Dan , I have one of these babies and it fits a Jo ,bokken and an Iaito. It is snug but is very strongly made. I replaced the strap with one off my kitbag so it is more comfortable .The material it is made of is strong but a little scratchie on the skin. Good bag though, just read the reviews . They have a 15 shinai bag as well that fits about 5 shinken,e.t.c www.e-bogu.com/Versatile_5_hold_Shinai_Bag_p/jur-bag-shi-5hold--.htmI really like the look of that one, thanks alot!
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Post by ShooterMike on Mar 3, 2007 3:46:51 GMT
Something to consider, that doesn't scream "weapon" is a hard sided golf bag case. They are made of the same construction as airline-approved secure weapon cases, but look like a big golf bag with cover. See www.golftravelbags.com/home.jsp. The "Hard Sided" and the "Golf Telebag" both look like good nondescript choices. I have been thinking about getting one of these to replace my big Starlight case for flying to 3-gun competitions, training and the like. My big hard case screams "This guy's carrying guns! " as I drag it through airports to check as "declared firearms" baggage. I always thought a big golf bag would attract less attention. Anywhooo, just a thought.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2007 12:15:23 GMT
Hello all, I have a couple of good ideas about transporting a sword or swords, a poor man's ideas if you will. But I posted a post on SFI and Netsword about those ideas I had, a poor man's ideas if you will, for carrying or transporting swords. I got grilled for it at both forums and my mentality was questioned, my motives, and I was accused of advocating illegal activities and stupid behavior at best, that they hoped my post was a joke. That moderator said that he trashed my post for those reasons. Then when I posted an explanation about how I was just putting forth some ideas about how a poor ol' regular Joe Blow could transport a sword using simple things you might have at home such as a leather map or blueprint case, golf club things, etc, without alarming anyone or having the cops called on you he said all the same crap and then notified me that my whole thread was being "trashed". So now I am afraid to make any comments about some cheap but effective ways to carry or transport a sword. Freebooter
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2007 12:55:09 GMT
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Post by ShooterMike on Mar 21, 2007 14:51:09 GMT
Freebooter, Sometimes I have to wonder what world those guys live in. Your topic is valid and rational. Their responses seem to be the opposite. I use long gun cases, but that's because they are inexpensive, readily available, and a normal everyday item where I live. But that's because firearms are common and accepted in my area. If that were not the case, I would definitely be looking into golf equipment or guitar cases. The negative thing about sword bags is that some of my swords don't have scabbards of any kind. And I don't want to put sharp blades in a soft-sided bag. So some kind of padded hard-sided case is manditory. This gun-case-practice has led several of my neighbors to ask "So, it looks like you go hunting a lot?" I just smile and say "Every chance I get." They nod and accept that explanation with a look that says they would like to go too. If I told them the truth they would probably think I'm some kinda nut!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2007 15:16:12 GMT
Hey y'all, Thanks for the support. I saved my post and so forth. Here is my original post, his, and then my answer to that. I feel that I was treated harshly. Later I was even threatened with being banned:
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........a couple of examples of concealing swords on your person that I thought y'all might find interesting and helpful: In the movie with Christopher Lambert, “The Hunted” (Not to be confused with Tommy Lee Jones‘ “The Hunted“), there is a scene in which some Ninja assassins were boarding a train in order to kill Lambert. They were dressed as golfers, with golf bags, etc.. Their katanas were hidden in the golf bags along with the golf clubs. The “sock” like things that were over the clubs also concealed the katanas. And the good guy that was helping Lambert, a modern samarai and Martial Arts instructor played by Yoshia Harada, carried his katana across his back or shoulder inside of a leather thing that looked like some sort of map case or over sized pool-cue case. Perhaps one could carry a full sized sabre in the same way, with perhaps something like some sort of camera logo on it to make someone think it was a camera equipment case like a tripod or something? Anyway, I thought both the disguises the Ninja assassins and the good guy utilized were very neat and unique. I thought y'all might find them interesting. -----------------------
The message from the Moderator: Dear David, I have trashed your thread on how to conceal swords because it advocates activities which are criminal in many places and are antisocial and counterproductive to the sword community everywhere. Posts like this have no place on any part of SFI and certainly not in the Legal Issues forum. The latter is an area devoted to discussions of the legal issues facing sword owners, issues that can only get worse if the police are confronted by damn fool behavious like people carrying concealed swords in public. I hope your post was a joke. If it wasn't then you need to take a good long look at why you want to own swords because what you wrote was pretty disturbing. Sincerely ---------- Moderator-------------------------------------
My answering post on the forum:
Hello _ _ _ _, You are due an explanation: Now then: My post was not a joke but you misinterpreted some of my meaning. I too would never want to give sword ownership or sword owners, collectors, and users a bad name. When I posted that post about some ways to carry a concealed sword on your person I was really talking about if you just needed to carry it on your person for some reason in the public, such as through a mall to a cutlery shop, through an apartment complex to a friend's apartment, through a parking lot, etc., etc.. I have seen on other discusion boards where people talk of hiking in the woods and back roads and enjoy carrying their swords. So if one wanted to do that then it would be better to carry them in some sort of case as I mentioned in the original post than out in the open. I was just talking about ways to carry your sword that would enable one to do so and not scare people or have cops called and be harrassed by them and have them asking you to explain things to them. I was not even thinking of doing it in order to go prey on someone or commit some crime with it. I can't believe you even thought that. By the way, I am a 14 year veteran Correctional Officer in the Alabama Dept. of Corrections. So I would never advocate nor condone any sort of criminal activity.
But on the same token, I was also speaking of self defence, if necessary, if anything. If by chance you live in a crime ridden neighborhood and you choose not to own a gun, then it might behoove you to carry something for self protection if you go out jogging or walking, etc, especially at night, that would not attract attention. I know of a martial arts instructor that carried a mid sized katana under his over coat in a "should holster" type of set up. He was not a criminal but a citizen excersising his God given right of self protection.
Some of what I posted was due to the fact that I grew up in an area where we are still fiercly independent and free, free to protect ourselves. Our government has not stipped us of that right yet. In fact, my home state has recently signed into law, due to rising crime, home invasions, etc, the right of the citizen to use deadly force in protection of your home, property, and while in your car, if attacked in any way. You used to have to prove you had no where or way to run, no escape, and absolutely prove that death to you or your family was iminant in order to use deadly force. And it had better happen in doors. Now you are free to protect yourself and family anywhere on your property and while in your car. They should have passed that law a long time ago, but then again our Constitution gave us that right long ago. But second guessing liberal judges, and organizations have been whittling those rights away. You can trash this post too if you want to _ _ _ _ . Neither my first one nor this one was meant as advocating criminal activities. If I am not mistaken did not your Austrailian government ban and strip y'all of the right to keep and bare arms, a right all free men should have in order to protect self, State, and property? Sincerely, DE Alabama ----------------------------- Now my question is this; how in the world was I out of line posting that original post, or the second answering one? I admit I was a bit hot under the collar when I posted the second answering post, especially the part about his being from Austrailia. I thoght that perhaps he was just paranoid due to his government's doings. But I thought he was just being rediculous! What do y'all think? Needless to say his answer to my second one was as bad and he informed me that he had trashed my whole thread for the same reasons, like he had not even listened to anything I had said. Take care, Freebooter
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2007 18:31:06 GMT
By the way, you can get pretty good plastic hardshell gun cases from Walmart for a few bucks. They have foam inside, etc.. I am sure they would double as a sword case too. Take care, FB
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2007 22:17:23 GMT
@ Freebooter, don't get too upset - it sounds like a typical SFI Moderator to me.. though you DID choose a slightly bad forum to talk about it [in SFI that is], legal Issues is for a kind of posts... lol -W.H.
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Post by ShooterMike on Mar 21, 2007 22:50:28 GMT
Freebooter, You just qualified as my "Hero of the Month" for those posts, especially the second one. Good for you in standing up and saying it like we feel it. Even if you made an enemy at SFI. IMO, you are always welcome here. DJG, I am of a like mind. Anytime I transport firearms I try to do it in as inconspicuous a manner as possible. Same with swords. That's solely from a "don't look like a target" standpoint. And my previous residence was burgled 4 times so I know exactly how you feel.
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Post by rammstein on Mar 21, 2007 23:57:22 GMT
seriously....
anyone who can take a beating from those thugs and resiliently comes back from it is a great person. I try to avoid the cesspool that can be sfi, though I generally read posts there daily.
I don't see anything malicious in your message, though in the future it may be best not to talk about killing and movies with ninjas in reference to "concealing" (rather, inconspicuous transport) of weapons.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2007 0:00:33 GMT
Freebooter I dont think you where out of line at all I live in Australia and yes our government did strip us of our right to bare arms because of a stupid $emprinihole named Martin bryant who killed the most ppl in a masaca in history 30 or so I cant remember but the law IMHO is counter productive in that by taking away guns from the genral public dosnt mean that crimanals cant still get them on the black market and with all the guns that got handed in I bet there was quite a few that made it to the black market there for falling into the hands of the ppl they were suposed to be getting them away from.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2007 2:49:05 GMT
Thanks for the moral support guys. I am about to quit going to that forum for that reason though. FB
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Post by rammstein on May 10, 2007 1:43:39 GMT
bump for ronin
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2007 1:51:21 GMT
LOL OK I missed this one
I dont own a car myself, I ride a motorcycle and as cool as the Crazy 88's may have looked with a kat slung over the shoulder it wasnt going to cut it (pun intended) with the law. As I do a few trips to visit a smith nearby (100klm round trip on the freeway) I'm often carrying a sword or 2. I recently acquired a long bag originally designed for a builders level, it even had straps on it,is zippered on one end only so theres no worries about the sword coming out if the zipper fails, is padded and 90%waterproof. Perfect!. I usually carry another bag in which I carry a sword book,some fittings ,polishing stones ect just to make me more believable. I did think of using a soft rifle bag but that looks even worse to our boys in blue, specially considering the bike gang wars going on here atm.
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Post by rammstein on May 10, 2007 2:06:54 GMT
Ronin, what about a fencing bag? Fencing is a legitimate sport and finding swords in a respective bag wouldn't be considered odd. I often use my bag to bring swords to fencing classes to show my instructors without drawing attention to myself when carried them through class.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2007 2:13:37 GMT
never seen one mate, are they waterproof?
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