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Post by aldarith on Jul 14, 2021 13:44:59 GMT
Brother Nathaniel, as you've probably seen, has some spectacular examples of Purna's work (GGK). This 11-inch sirupate is kind of plain jane but fit and finish is flawless as far as I can tell and it's silly sharp. Also quite light weight (407 grams). Purna seems to like light kukris. At $42 (+$40 shpping), it's hard to beat. Also his karda's and chapmak's are large and well made compared to say, EGKH. I have it's 15" big brother which is a definite limb-lopper and another one on the way -- his WWII battalion repro -- and I'm contemplating a custom. That's a nice one, I read through that entire thread with glee. Love the engravings on the VK Kukri as well. What did the engravings and extra bells cost, The Levin Lance? Curious because I might consider getting some myself. Simpleman I watched that review today as well, very informative and funny - plus he got the stacked leather handle so I have a good idea of what it looks like. If you have any other Kukri guys for me to inspect I would be more than happy to investigate
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Post by Simpleman on Jul 14, 2021 14:30:08 GMT
If you have any other Kukri guys for me to inspect I would be more than happy to investigate If you want leather handle go kailash, if not this is also a good option. Oil-quench and new steel.
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Post by aldarith on Jul 14, 2021 15:05:44 GMT
Looks amazing, so many choices to boil down. Surely to only solution is to buy more than one kukri!?
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Post by Simpleman on Jul 14, 2021 15:21:28 GMT
Looks amazing, so many choices to boil down. Surely to only solution is to buy more than one kukri!? Heard of the Khukuri bug? Well you have now. Dont be in a hurry, think it over. They will not vanish. But yes it often ends with one owning many.. But think of what you really need and want.
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Post by aldarith on Jul 14, 2021 16:04:26 GMT
The Levin Lance have/do you own/ed both and prefer GGK? Interested in hearing comparisons. I was also curious about the isolated cost of the engraving work, as far a I understand there were some other differences between yours and the base model so I am attempting to evaluate the cost of customizations.
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Post by soulfromheart on Jul 14, 2021 16:49:15 GMT
The Levin Lance have/do you own/ed both and prefer GGK? Interested in hearing comparisons. Having both Kailash and GGK khukuris, notably the very similar Chitlange and Limbuwan, my impression of both is : - the Kailash 16" Chitlange feels lighter in the hand...as way too light actually (a bit like a flying razor feeling?). Maybe it's due to the Rosewood handle ? I kinda regret chosing the 5,25" handle, I really much prefer the 14" Chitlange with 4,75" handle. The spine is 6mm. - the GGK 15" Limbuwan feels tougher (and actually is "cutting into wooden plank like nothing" tough) yet nimble and agile. Maybe it's the Horn handle ? The spine is 8mm. Don't get me wrong, Kailash Blades' Blades are awesome. However, the Limbuwan is my favorite. It's a...feeling in the hand thing ?
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Post by aldarith on Jul 14, 2021 17:24:54 GMT
I am not really sure I understand the relevent implication here. Just an odd thing to point out in the context of this exchange. My point is that Khukuris often are sold with stories and myths, and its important to be aware of them. Because these stories seems come back into every Khukuri-discussion, and I would like to put these things to rest. The Khukuri is fantastic without all the strange perceptions about it. I agree here - there is a lot of discussion about the kukri notch / cho and it seems like most scholarly sources agree it's probably traditional cultural or religious symbolism and not functional at all. The 'blood notch' is pretty often repeated, as is the 'can't draw the kukri without drawing blood' myth. I don't think it's a dig at Mr. Purna, just some good information & context. The Levin Lance have/do you own/ed both and prefer GGK? Interested in hearing comparisons. Having both Kailash and GGK khukuris, notably the very similar Chitlange and Limbuwan, my impression of both is : - the Kailash 16" Chitlange feels lighter in the hand...as way too light actually (a bit like a flying razor feeling?). Maybe it's due to the Rosewood handle ? I kinda regret chosing the 5,25" handle, I really much prefer the 14" Chitlange with 4,75" handle. The spine is 6mm. - the GGK 15" Limbuwan feels tougher (and actually is "cutting into wooden plank like nothing" tough) yet nimble and agile. Maybe it's the Horn handle ? The spine is 8mm. Don't get me wrong, Kailash Blades' Blades are awesome. However, the Limbuwan is my favorite. It's a...feeling in the hand thing ? That is an interesting thing to hear - so you prefer the GGK for it's presence and weight. What grind did you choose on your Kailash? Do you have any doubts about it's functionality or durability based on your experiences with it or is this just a preference for one handfeel over another with both assumed to be equal?
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Post by aldarith on Jul 14, 2021 17:40:39 GMT
Also I just want to throw my hat into the ring on the cauda. I think in many cases it doubles as a choil - something that would probably market it better as a 'survival item' than a 'blood notch' I notice on Kukris (Kukri? What's plural... Kukrii? ) that have the 'cloven hoof' cauda there is often a choil present, suggesting that the cut-out / hammered cauda on many models serves a necessary purpose that a 'pierced' cho does not. All this said, I think as the inheritors of the cultural legacy, Nepalese (& other ) makers should absolutely be allowed to market as they wish but it would be nice to see more scholarly stuff going on.
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Post by soulfromheart on Jul 14, 2021 19:37:32 GMT
Having both Kailash and GGK khukuris, notably the very similar Chitlange and Limbuwan, my impression of both is : - the Kailash 16" Chitlange feels lighter in the hand...as way too light actually (a bit like a flying razor feeling?). Maybe it's due to the Rosewood handle ? I kinda regret chosing the 5,25" handle, I really much prefer the 14" Chitlange with 4,75" handle. The spine is 6mm. - the GGK 15" Limbuwan feels tougher (and actually is "cutting into wooden plank like nothing" tough) yet nimble and agile. Maybe it's the Horn handle ? The spine is 8mm. Don't get me wrong, Kailash Blades' Blades are awesome. However, the Limbuwan is my favorite. It's a...feeling in the hand thing ? That is an interesting thing to hear - so you prefer the GGK for it's presence and weight. What grind did you choose on your Kailash? Do you have any doubts about it's functionality or durability based on your experiences with it or is this just a preference for one handfeel over another with both assumed to be equal? I'm pretty sure Purna didn't personally make his own website. He's probably not fluent enough for that. If I remember clearly, he told me the notch was probably a cultural or religious thing in honor of a god (Shiva ?). sbg-sword-forum.forums.net/thread/63376/again-3-khukuris-kailash-bladesI chose the performance grind based on the experience of other forum members but I'm not sure how it would qualify against their other grinds. Maybe I should have tested each one but the heavy duty grind isn't available for the models I chose. It's probably thinner than the Limbuwan's from GGK but it does indeed accentuate the feeling of handling a razor. It doesn't give me the incentive to use as anything other than a fighting blade (even though it might survive just fine). If I had to compare just the blade, it would actually rather be with the one of the kindjal from VT Daggers that I own (awesome dagger by the way). I don't think GGK's grinds are standard as the three options offered by Kailash. I think they just choose the most adequate ones for each piece but that may be my experience. Each are super sharp yet surprisingly durable. The angles are different than others though (I don't have the words to explain, do excuse my French): a bit round first but the edges extremes are like mirror polished ? (It's difficult to explain ?) As for durability : The Voidwalker from GGK (designed by Daniel Murray-Lake) is, in my opinion, a perfect multi-purpose model. There is a video on YouTube about it that totally sums up what can be said beyond my "it's absolutely awesome !". But I don't have any other similar khukuris to compare it to (my models from Kailash are all performance grind fighting blades...) so I don't know if this is standard or not. The Limbuwan, let's say I've been an idiot and let it encounter a table...the blade has no damage and my wife took it as her favorite blade over the 14" Chitlange with creamy horn handle and copper hardware that I specifically ordered for her. Take it as you want. Other people that ordered customs from Purna Darnal know that everything he makes are made with durability in mind...which is not always a good thing in our cases actually. (But that's his mindset. ) As the feeling in hand, it's definitely a subjective thing based on one's preference. The Limbuwan feels definitely "right" for me as a fighting khukuri. Strong, fast, agile, durable (and beautiful). The 16" Chitlange with 5,25" handle feels like a flying razor. Very fast and agile and too light as if I can't control it because I can't feel it ? On the contrary, the 14" Chitlange with 4,75" handle (which IS the default size) feels "right". It's faster than its bigger counterpart but I don't feel like it will fly away (d?). The feeling "right" part is so difficult to explain. It's something akin to "purity of form" maybe ?
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Post by Simpleman on Jul 14, 2021 19:51:22 GMT
Also I just want to throw my hat into the ring on the cauda. I think in many cases it doubles as a choil - something that would probably market it better as a 'survival item' than a 'blood notch' I notice on Kukris (Kukri? What's plural... Kukrii? ) that have the 'cloven hoof' cauda there is often a choil present, suggesting that the cut-out / hammered cauda on many models serves a necessary purpose that a 'pierced' cho does not. All this said, I think as the inheritors of the cultural legacy, Nepalese (& other ) makers should absolutely be allowed to market as they wish but it would be nice to see more scholarly stuff going on. Plural of Khukuri is haru. Khukuri haru. Kiranti shaman use. That part will catch the spirits in some beliefs. One must remember that Nepal has MANY religions, traditions and tribes. Therefore the symbolism will have different meanings. When we come to beliefs, the interpretations are quite wide. More kaudis.
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Post by Simpleman on Jul 15, 2021 16:09:38 GMT
Me and a member decided we both should delete some of our posts, thats why some posts may seem to be missing.
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Post by aldarith on Jul 15, 2021 18:36:03 GMT
Wow, I love it.
I am actually really curious about their performance grind and how it differs from standard.
What kind of abuse have you put it through?
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Post by Simpleman on Jul 15, 2021 19:01:24 GMT
Wow, I love it. I am actually really curious about their performance grind and how it differs from standard. What kind of abuse have you put it through? On mine I have always used performance grind. Have had several. Not had any troubles, crucial thing of course is, for what will you use it? If you know, contact Andrew for instance and he will guide you. He is very helpful.
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Post by aldarith on Jul 18, 2021 22:29:59 GMT
Andrew seems to be pretty busy as I sent him an e-mail at the commencement of the week without response as yet.
That said, I went for it.
I ordered two blades!
Blade 1 will be a 14" Mutiny blade with a Ft William style rosewood handle & a salyani sheath.
Blade 2 will be an 11" Ft William style blade with an orange micarta handle & kydex sheath with a spare DAP sheath because why not?
I am SOOOO excited.
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Post by soulfromheart on Jul 19, 2021 6:21:09 GMT
Andrew seems to be pretty busy as I sent him an e-mail at the commencement of the week without response as yet. That said, I went for it. I ordered two blades! Blade 1 will be a 14" Mutiny blade with a Ft William style rosewood handle & a salyani sheath. Blade 2 will be an 11" Ft William style blade with an orange micarta handle & kydex sheath with a spare DAP sheath because why not? I am SOOOO excited. Don't worry about the lack of response, Andrew tends to look and answer e-mails on thursday. However, do expect some additional delay as they just took a one week of (well deserved) vacation.
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Post by Simpleman on Jul 19, 2021 6:32:08 GMT
Andrew seems to be pretty busy as I sent him an e-mail at the commencement of the week without response as yet. That said, I went for it. I ordered two blades! Blade 1 will be a 14" Mutiny blade with a Ft William style rosewood handle & a salyani sheath. Blade 2 will be an 11" Ft William style blade with an orange micarta handle & kydex sheath with a spare DAP sheath because why not? I am SOOOO excited. Very nice. I dont know if they still do but they used to send you pics once in a while on the progress. Its really fun following the progress. Spare dap can make sense, well firstly you may like it. And of course if you dont have a traditional sheath for your blade, its difficult getting it right if ordered afterwards. What finish did you choose? High polish, raw?
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Post by aldarith on Jul 19, 2021 10:57:13 GMT
Don't worry about the lack of response, Andrew tends to look and answer e-mails on thursday. However, do expect some additional delay as they just took a one week of (well deserved) vacation. Actually that vacation helped seal the deal. I was checking out the instagram and the guys look happy in general. Andrew got back to me in the wee hours of the morning today, so all is in progress now. Very nice. I dont know if they still do but they used to send you pics once in a while on the progress. Its really fun following the progress. Spare dap can make sense, well firstly you may like it. And of course if you dont have a traditional sheath for your blade, its difficult getting it right if ordered afterwards. What finish did you choose? High polish, raw? I picked High Polish / Performace Grind for the Mutiny and Satin / Standard Grind for the Ft William. This means I will be able to compare those finishes and grinds side by side in the review
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Post by aldarith on Jul 24, 2021 3:58:04 GMT
How do IMA / Atlanta Cutlery Kukri's hold up on the secondary market?
Do they go up, down or retain value once cleared of grease & whatnot?
I have a suspicion that there's still quite a few to be sold from their inventory & so I assume their price point has been set the way it is (high?) in order to prevent a mass selloff and devaluation of their existing stock, so I am curious about how that has affected the secondary market.
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Post by Simpleman on Jul 24, 2021 11:44:30 GMT
How do IMA / Atlanta Cutlery Kukri's hold up on the secondary market? Do they go up, down or retain value once cleared of grease & whatnot? I have a suspicion that there's still quite a few to be sold from their inventory & so I assume their price point has been set the way it is (high?) in order to prevent a mass selloff and devaluation of their existing stock, so I am curious about how that has affected the secondary market. Good question. They do also float around in Nepal still. From what I have seen so far they dont seem to go either up or down in price, its to early to say I think. This is however very much depending on what khukuri we are talking about. Benjamin Judkins (2012) have been writing this, on the contents of the cache, how many and what type of khukuris that were found. Everyting from very common, to highly unusual. kilatools.com/kukrihistory/nepalesemilitary/militarysirupate.html (several pages)
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Post by aldarith on Jul 24, 2021 14:08:56 GMT
Oh wow, I didn't realize there were multiple pages as I was initially reading on my mobile phone. I will certainly be reading the rest. It seems like IMA has either sold almost all it's stock of Kukri's except their 'Unmarked Bhojpure' blades or else they are simply not opening any more crates while they clear what's already out (and potentially less popular due to being unmarked?) I wonder how Atlanta Cutlery's collections look. It seems like they may have taken the bigger share of blades while IMA took all ye olde gonnes. From what I remember of the Treasure Is Where You Find It (Timestamped) documentary appear to be so many blades as to defy selling them all for another decade. Did AC take more blades than IMA?
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