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Post by markus313 on Apr 6, 2021 15:35:38 GMT
I said I’d come back with some stuff, so let’s start with these...
Another M1867 Swiss cavalry sabre. Of all the Swiss ‘67 trooper exemplars I had, this one is the most agile. Good condition, save for some discolorations. Very solid construction, everything straight and no rattling. Ricasso stamped „Alex Coppel Solingen“. Bought it without scabbard.
Swiss M1842 infantry officer’s sabre. The Swiss copied the French 1821 pattern. Solid in the hilt, blade with some nicks but no bends or warps – still serviceable. Very lively in the hand. Nicely wired shagreen grip a bit too slim for my taste, unless wrapped with two tennis bands. “Wester & Co Solingen” on ricasso. No scabbard. |
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Post by markus313 on Apr 6, 2021 15:39:03 GMT
Pattern 1796 light cavalry sabre. Everything straight and rock solid. Nice even patina on the blade which may not appeal to everyone, but is pleasing to my eyes (may it even have been blued? Lol, gotta make do with a budget  ). Hilt has even pitting, no active rust. Had to repair some of the wooden grip towards the tang button. One of my dreams to come true with this one, no disappointment, easily my favorite sword ever. Stamped "Osborn & Gunby" on spine. "B 65" and "F 11" on guard. No scabbard. British-Indian army sabre. Probably an officer’s private order. Full width tang, wooden handle scales. Pattern 1853 three-bar hilt is brazed on tang. Very solid. Vicious mix of durability, power and agility. Service-sharpened. A great melee weapon. Blade stamped "Bourne & Son". Well-fitting heavy duty leather scabbard in excellent condition; long metal chape. |
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Post by markus313 on Apr 6, 2021 15:40:29 GMT
Original 1796 Light Cavalry vs. Cold Steel repro. The Cold Steel is a fun sword. Not all that bad, imo. Robust, great fun to train with, may it be Roworth or Meyer. Made me go really chasing the antique(s).
It's well known the CS carries a tad more mass than the standard originals, especially in the blade (thicker edge bevels, less refined fullers, more thickness up the blade). Doesn’t make it that much heavier, but it balances quite a bit further out. |
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Post by markus313 on Apr 6, 2021 15:42:38 GMT
CS 1796 vs. Windlass Shamshir. The Shamshir handles very lovely. Had to beef up the grip considerably, it feels great now.
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Post by pellius on Apr 6, 2021 15:59:22 GMT
Wow. Very nice acquisitions!
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Post by pgandy on Apr 6, 2021 16:46:47 GMT
Christmas in April. 😁
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2021 23:16:59 GMT
They all appear to be great fun of the sword world and often well within the lower budgets. The German/Prussian made French mle1821 pattern was widely exported and even in the US through companies such as Horstmann. They can be found at very attractive prices and a good target for beginning collectors, especially if looking for a period sword to cut with.
Cheers
GC
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Post by markus313 on Apr 7, 2021 7:06:11 GMT
Wow. Very nice acquisitions! Thank you, Pellius! |
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Post by markus313 on Apr 7, 2021 7:08:28 GMT
We even have snow around here! Nothing against snow and cold, but Florida or Costa Rica seem way nicer than Germany. |
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Post by markus313 on Apr 7, 2021 7:09:53 GMT
Ladies and Gentlemen..He's back! With a vengeance |
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Post by markus313 on Apr 7, 2021 7:11:51 GMT
They all appear to be great fun of the sword world and often well within the lower budgets. The German/Prussian made French mle1821 pattern was widely exported and even in the US through companies such as Horstmann. They can be found at very attractive prices and a good target for beginning collectors, especially if looking for a period sword to cut with. Cheers GC Very true, if one is willing to look around. The Swiss infantry sword is dancing in the hand, hard to imagine the repro world capturing this spirit any time soon. |
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Post by markus313 on Apr 9, 2021 15:22:14 GMT
Another Dutch “M1898” type Klewang. Excellent condition. Wooden scales on full width tang, three brass rivets. Ricasso stamped “Hembrug”, grip marked “RVW” (RijksVeldWacht), which meant it was issued to Dutch military police. Leather sheath fully intact.
Klewang style sabre – afaik it’s quite probable this sword was made for service in the Dutch East Indies, most probably Indonesia, meeting the demand for blades providing “stopping power”, which was necessary in the extreme close-combat conditions occurring at that time and place. We know that before the introduction and industrial production of the marechaussee sword M 1898 design (see above), Netherland’s East India Korps were given swords with cavalry sabre hilts and blades of native manufacture. It’s not unlikely that this sword is one of these weapons. Good condition, although the whole piece is put together quite crudely, with quite some play between the grip and guard − but it is robust and ready for some tough action. Blade is quite stiff, it has been sharpened. A thick, crude peen secures what I think might be a modified English hilt of the same pattern than the Anglo-Indian one shown above. Full width tang, wooden scales with two iron pins. The grip is five millimeters more in thickness than in height, which feels a bit weird at first but not uncomfortable and is easy getting used to. It is also quite short, definitely not meant for any “easy play from the wrist” or “open hand” which was taught in Western fencing salles. A brutish, yet light and responsive weapon. Spine stamped with several lily motives, no maker’s name. No scabbard.
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Post by markus313 on Apr 9, 2021 15:29:09 GMT
Updated stats for all swords. Included the CS Machete for reference and because I think that when properly sharpened, it can hang with the best.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Apr 9, 2021 15:44:07 GMT
Thank you, great informations!
(... and cool sabers of course!)
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Post by markus313 on Apr 9, 2021 17:47:44 GMT
Thank you, Andi. My pleasure.
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Post by Uhlan on Apr 10, 2021 13:48:25 GMT
Very nice collection Markus.
And thanks for the info too.
Cheers.
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Post by markus313 on Apr 11, 2021 21:27:48 GMT
Very nice collection Markus. And thanks for the info too. Cheers. Thank you, Uhlan. It means a lot coming from you. I can't proffer a fraction of what you've already served to us. |
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Post by Uhlan on Apr 11, 2021 22:13:44 GMT
Don't make me blush. ;)
Cheers.
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Post by jimmythedonut on Apr 13, 2021 14:18:27 GMT
I'm picking up an 1867 dismounted officers sword in a week or 2 when it arrives, one of the earlier ones per the scabbard rings. I have one already in rough shape I recovered like an abused animal that's astonishingly light for a non piquet (that I know of) weight sabre, only about 700 grams for an 81cm/31" blade or so. Will be interesting to compare as one is WKC and the other is Waffenfabrik Neuhausen
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Post by markus313 on May 13, 2021 8:54:35 GMT
Prussian M1811 "Blücher" saber, Schleswig-Holstein Regiment. The sword is build rock solid, the proverbial “tank”. The grip and hilt parts are large, the blade is massive. A much weightier and probably more robust piece than the British 1796 it is based on. I think this particular one is heavy even by "Blücher" standards. Although the 1796 feels much more agile and “aggressive” in handling, the 1811 exudes a certain kind of confidence, a stoic morale, which is hard for me to explain in written words. I still prefer the 1796 though, by a large margin. The 1811 is a great campain and battle sword, no doubt. Never sharpened. No scabbard. |
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). Hilt has even pitting, no active rust. Had to repair some of the wooden grip towards the tang button. One of my dreams to come true with this one, no disappointment, easily my favorite sword ever. Stamped "Osborn & Gunby" on spine. "B 65" and "F 11" on guard. No scabbard. 
