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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 12:42:13 GMT
Going back to Timo’s last input; I use two hands on my longer spears as can change direction faster. On my two long spears, about 6’ hafts, I used rattan and wax wood because of their natural taper. I suspect ‘wax wood’ is a name applied by martial artist suppliers for ease of use and is actually a species of ligustrum lucidum. I've always wanted to try rattan with a javalin head on it. Inspired by spears used on kung Fu films. A huge two handed spear, with oak and a hewing spearhead, next to one with a javalin head and ratten would be such a nice variety, in even just two different spears
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Post by RufusScorpius on Mar 3, 2021 14:04:26 GMT
No love for the pilum? I see how it is...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 14:13:15 GMT
No love for the pilum? I see how it is... Definitely a lot of love for the pilum. But shipping I am too frugal and improvised for such things
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Post by RufusScorpius on Mar 3, 2021 14:38:27 GMT
No love for the pilum? I see how it is... Definitely a lot of love for the pilum. But shipping I am too frugal and improvised for such things I think you misunderstand the entire concept and history of the pilum. All you have to do is walk next door and conquer that house. Use their resources to buy a pilum, then use the pilum to conquer the entire neighborhood. What?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 15:09:24 GMT
Definitely a lot of love for the pilum. But shipping I am too frugal and improvised for such things I think you misunderstand the entire concept and history of the pilum. All you have to do is walk next door and conquer that house. Use their resources to buy a pilum, then use the pilum to conquer the entire neighborhood. What? I suppose if I paid for mine with the gold standard instead of the iron, everyone would consider me a poser 😱
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 15:36:03 GMT
Despite all the good advice you guys gave me and how well it confirmed and gave alternatives to what doubted me, I decided I am a bastard sword and went ahead with what the heart wanted anyway.
Got the Long Bladed Hewing Spear. I figure on the short hard wood staffs available to me, with a steel pipe counter weight, it will do the job I want of it decently. Worst case scenario, I'll keep it as a two handed weapon, and use the cold steel one handed if I need to. That one's pretty light and easy to control
Since the reality is that I won't be using it for a very long time, unless I take it in the woods for wild life protection, in which it will be used two handed anyway.
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Post by RufusScorpius on Mar 3, 2021 18:23:12 GMT
The hewing spear is not a bad choice. It can be used for a number of tasks, and in a pinch it will work as a big field knife.
Post some photos when you get it all put together!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 18:35:37 GMT
The hewing spear is not a bad choice. It can be used for a number of tasks, and in a pinch it will work as a big field knife. Post some photos when you get it all put together! Yea that's what I'm thinking. It would make a nice short sword if not mounted. Might add some sort of grip band or hockey tape/epoxy to the socket so it is also a comfy handle, plus a sheath of sorts
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 17:46:21 GMT
Time to say the cliché thing, but man, you don't really realize it till you have one. This is a literal sword at the end of a pole. Here it is next to my assegai, which is on my throwing handle
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Post by pgandy on Mar 8, 2021 17:59:19 GMT
This is a literal sword at the end of a pole. So I’ve heard it described. How do you like the handling?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 18:09:58 GMT
This is a literal sword at the end of a pole. So I’ve heard it described. How do you like the handling? It's not bad when used two handed, but I think it would definitely improve with a counter weight and a heavier staff. Gonna check my local depot store for rake handles and steel pipes. To be honest, it feels like a fantastic weapon as is, even.
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Post by howler on Mar 8, 2021 20:55:55 GMT
Time to say the cliché thing, but man, you don't really realize it till you have one. This is a literal sword at the end of a pole. Here it is next to my assegai, which is on my throwing handle Looks good Trap. The CS Boar spear will also give you that "sword at end of pole" pole arm feel.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 21:18:06 GMT
Time to say the cliché thing, but man, you don't really realize it till you have one. This is a literal sword at the end of a pole. Here it is next to my assegai, which is on my throwing handle Looks good Trap. The CS Boar spear will also give you that "sword at end of pole" pole arm feel. One thing I like about the cold steel ones is how light they are. My throwing spear feels like nothing, but the moment I put on the windlass it becomes a bit heavy.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 21:35:10 GMT
Yea it's pretty sweet, but I already had one of those. The windlass large blade hewing spear is so much more badass feeling. But the cold steel is my go to for a thrower. It somehow just feel way more expendable, also aerodynamic
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 22:03:55 GMT
Yea it's pretty sweet, but I already had one of those. The windlass large blade hewing spear is so much more badass feeling. But the cold steel is my go to for a thrower. It somehow just feel way more expendable, also aerodynamic I think the Windlass long blade hewing spear with the handle from their Assegai/Iklwa would be the ultimate! Yea it definitely has a nimbleness when you use a shorter handle. Feels like you get every advantage of a full size, other than reach.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 23:37:03 GMT
Daaaaaamn Even tho the center of balance is quite high up, it still gives me a swords length of reach if used one handed
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2021 15:57:11 GMT
I have some further thoughts on it. I enjoy it. It's the best spear I've ever owned, and I can just barely grasp how amazing this would be if I had a better shaft for it.
Only problem with the perfect shaft length is it would be difficult/annoying to transport with cars.
Anyway, I've found that I prefer using it in what I've learned in my Bo-staff days (God I hate using that word. Eff guy Napoleon Dynamite for making it a forever lame thing to practice). The center-ish way you learn to use a staff seems to lend well to the now lesser balanced weapon. I now see the value of a end cap now.... Perhaps next purchase
I think I could get away with a shorter staff easily, but at the same time, I don't know why I would wanna. This thing is badass the way it is
It might even be making spear my favourite weapon again
I need to review this one.
You can never truly appreciate this thing till you have it mounted up and in person. Pictures, no matter how well taken, don't do its magnificence justice
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Post by Zen_Hydra on Mar 9, 2021 16:24:01 GMT
I have some further thoughts on it. I enjoy it. It's the best spear I've ever owned, and I can just barely grasp how amazing this would be if I had a better shaft for it. Only problem with the perfect shaft length is it would be difficult/annoying to transport with cars. Anyway, I've found that I prefer using it in what I've learned in my Bo-staff days (God I hate using that word. Eff guy Napoleon Dynamite for making it a forever lame thing to practice). The center-ish way you learn to use a staff seems to lend well to the now lesser balanced weapon. I now see the value of a end cap now.... Perhaps next purchase I think I could get away with a shorter staff easily, but at the same time, I don't know why I would wanna. This thing is badass the way it is It might even be making spear my favourite weapon again I need to review this one. You can never truly appreciate this thing till you have it mounted up and in person. Pictures, no matter how well taken, don't do its magnificence justice Have you considered using a drill to increase the hole in the side of the socket in order to allow for a larger (mekugi-esque) retention pin? By doing so (and obviously adding a similar hole to the spear haft as well), you can easily remove the spearhead, and thus significantly reduce its length for transport. I don't know how big your car is, but I can carry 7+ foot long polearms in my car's front passenger side by carefully angling through the open door, resting the butt ends on the floor board, and letting them either rest on the seat's shoulder, or slide over between the seat and door. I drive a mid-size sedan, so it isn't like I'm pulling this off in a crew-cabbed 2020 Dodge Compensator.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2021 16:31:31 GMT
I have some further thoughts on it. I enjoy it. It's the best spear I've ever owned, and I can just barely grasp how amazing this would be if I had a better shaft for it. Only problem with the perfect shaft length is it would be difficult/annoying to transport with cars. Anyway, I've found that I prefer using it in what I've learned in my Bo-staff days (God I hate using that word. Eff guy Napoleon Dynamite for making it a forever lame thing to practice). The center-ish way you learn to use a staff seems to lend well to the now lesser balanced weapon. I now see the value of a end cap now.... Perhaps next purchase I think I could get away with a shorter staff easily, but at the same time, I don't know why I would wanna. This thing is badass the way it is It might even be making spear my favourite weapon again I need to review this one. You can never truly appreciate this thing till you have it mounted up and in person. Pictures, no matter how well taken, don't do its magnificence justice Have you considered using a drill to increase the hole in the side of the socket in order to allow for a larger (mekugi-esque) retention pin? By doing so (and obviously adding a similar hole to the spear haft as well), you can easily remove the spearhead, and thus significantly reduce its length for transport. I don't know how big your car is, but I can carry 7+ foot long polearms in my car's front passenger side by carefully angling through the open door, resting the butt ends on the floor board, and letting them either rest on the seat's shoulder, or slide over between the seat and door. I drive a mid-size sedan, so it isn't like I'm pulling this off in a crew-cabbed 2020 Dodge Compensator. I've thought about it, but then I gotta get a drill. As much as I need one they are so pricey 🤔 but you are right, a retention pin would be much more convenient, though I don't mine using a screw for now, since I can just unscrew it I could fit a 6ft pole in my car, but it's just awkward, and a little bit of work to fit in. A 5ft would be so much easier to find and to fit places, in case I find myself catching a ride with someone to somewhere I would want to take it. This is definitely a spear I would want if I went hunting, for back up in case I can't shoot it accurate enough with my cross bow and it charges after me. Or just for wildlife protection in general. I have no idea what the wildlife is like in the place I'm going to practice bushcraft
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Post by pgandy on Mar 9, 2021 17:55:10 GMT
Anyway, I've found that I prefer using it in what I've learned in my Bo-staff days The bo is the bases on which all other pole arms are taught. Many schools will teach the bo as prerequisite for other weapons. I knew this but didn’t appreciate it at the time. Now you can justify in buying that truck you've had an eye on. 😁
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