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Post by salvatore on Aug 20, 2008 10:36:28 GMT
Hi.
I was wondering, before using an edged weapon, say you just opened the package to the weapon, have you ever had a bad vibe coming from it?
I mean by this, did you ever get uncomfortable holding it?
Because I'll have this hand with me forever, I have a lot of time to think about my accident. When I first opened up the ti-lite that hurt me, I got a feeling tat the blade wouldn't be a good friend to me, I thought it was too sharp, and even I thought it was dangerous. Later that day, I got stuck with it.
The kukri that did that number on my hand, first time I opened it the handle tore into my hand, the blade looked large and I was intimidated by it, and the black finish and rather coarse edge only added to the feeling.
I kinda ignored these concerns because I never wanted to admit that I was afraid of using the blades, and both hurt me badly within hours of opening them.
Has this happened to any else? Have any of you guys got a bad feeling about an edged weapon you've owned or handled and ultimately got hurt by the weapon?
Please, I am not asking for criticism, I didn't wave these blades around like I didn't have a care in the world, I was extremely careful, and the accidents still happened.
Sal
EDIT: I'd like to add that I am not speaking of weapons with bad fittings, I mean even high quality blades that just give that that strange feeling.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2008 10:44:39 GMT
Mmm never really with a sword, I'm usually extatic when they arrive I do get that ominous feeling with machetes though, I don't like them and as such I have never cut with them. The best way I can describe my view of a machete is 'brutal'.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2008 11:56:44 GMT
I Inherited a WW2 German officers dagger. While it was a beautiful piece, I felt extremely uncomfortable around this blade. To the point that i was considering destroying it. My brother agreed to keep it stored in the name of not forgetting history's lessons.
While my opinion is that weapons and Indeed any Item will indeed acquire an "aura" with use, with care, awareness and determination this may be overcome. The question is why?
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on Aug 20, 2008 12:19:53 GMT
You are very lucky because you have been able to pinpoint the exact intuitive feeling that you need to listen to in your daily life from now on. Even more lucky because you are young and if you learn to listen to these feelings you may save yourself from many heartaches in life, and hopefully be guided to fortune.
I had a quiet voice in my head the time I got my finger chopped in a circular sword. I simissed it. It said, "if you do that you'll cut the end of your finger off". My intelect / logic said "no, I'm clear, it's safe". 3 seconds later BANG!
It's not necessarily the sword that had the vibes, it was your intuition speaking - or a combination of the both. Though don't get me wrong, I do believe that swords can hold vibes.
Like you steve, my dad has some WWII pieces which I was never real comfortable with. A German Dagger and a Japanese Katana. I'm happier with new swords. Even better ones which I have made, then they are 99% Brenno vibes.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2008 13:47:20 GMT
I beleive that 50% of the "vibes" is like superstition, if a fortune teller tells you you will die in 24 hours you will get so freaked out about how it will happen and how to stop it that you'll give yourself a heart attack . it's good to listen to the vibes, but they are in no way cardinal law, merely a suggestion depending on how you take it. In Sal's and Brenno's case the lack of listening led to over confidence, sal being overconfident and Brenno brushing off a possible basic of common sense. Existence of the "vibes" or that little voice that says "don't do that" and then your own mind saying "no it's fine" is evidence of a split in conscious thinking, making the right decision in all aspects of daily life should be a single thought, two parts of the mind, one saying "no big deal" the other saying "don't do that", it should be "I know how to do this properly and the dangers and possibilities of what might happen if I don't", no doubt, but also no overconfidence. A happy medium of existence and thought .
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2008 14:07:10 GMT
I am not sure about the "vibes" but if you are intimidated by a weapon you are more likely to hurt yourself because you are not as sure as usual. I find that if something intimidates me, weapon wise, that I am more likely to have an accident because I am so skittish about that weapon. Also listen to the little voice, it is rarely wrong, unless it tells you to do terrible things and then you can probably ignore it.
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Post by 293master293 on Aug 20, 2008 21:42:44 GMT
I had a little bit of a bad vibe from my old Windlass Qama. I poked myself soooooo many times with that.
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Post by oos3thoo on Aug 20, 2008 23:33:08 GMT
To me, that feeling means it is a sword I must own. And if I allready do own it, then good! But seriously, I never got that feelng yet.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2008 0:00:01 GMT
Sal
That is very interesting observation and my grand ma taught me never ignor the bad vibes because it is like warning that bad karma catching up with you. I have yet to have bad vibes with any of my swords but may be because they are brand new and some of them that made oversea by otherwise poor and hungry smiths who are so happy and appreciate that someone purchase thier swords or knives and so their wives and children could eat ,stay alive and have brighter future.That bring up the kukri .You need to get yourself one that made by Nepales kamis because they blessed the blade before shipping them to customer (they made sacrified to Kali ).
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Post by salvatore on Aug 21, 2008 0:45:22 GMT
Sal That is very interesting observation and my grand ma taught me never ignor the bad vibes because it is like warning that bad karma catching up with you. I have yet to have bad vibes with any of my swords but may be because they are brand new and some of them that made oversea by otherwise poor and hungry smiths who are so happy and appreciate that someone purchase thier swords or knives and so their wives and children could eat ,stay alive and have brighter future.That bring up the kukri .You need to get yourself one that made by Nepales kamis because they blessed the blade before shipping them to customer (they made sacrified to Kali ). I think I am done with machetes, I am too freaked out by them now. I can't look at them on the internet, they weird me out too much now.
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Post by salvatore on Aug 21, 2008 0:52:28 GMT
Sam, I feel that you continue to be a little rude. Playing Mr. tough guy? Come the hell on, I was freaked out by the blade, I wasn't playing "Tough" by using it, I had never gotten a feeling like that before, I wasn't supposed to really know what it meant. I only had that experience with the ti-lite, and that was a knife, big deal. I didn't have that experience enough to know what it was. Don't get my wrong, I don't want sympathy, I frankly don't give a rats ass. But when it comes to this sort of thing, I am a lot more aware, if I get that nasty feeling and continue to use the blade, it just sets me up for another unjury. Ugh, I hope I don't get that feeling when I order my KA-BAR tanto.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2008 1:09:09 GMT
I only had that experience with the ti-lite, and that was a knife, big deal. [/size] Edited, but I rest my case.
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Post by salvatore on Aug 21, 2008 1:25:25 GMT
I only had that experience with the ti-lite, and that was a knife, big deal. [/size] Edited, but I rest my case.[/quote] Alright, much Appreciated.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2008 1:29:26 GMT
Sal, are you talking about the 6" Ti-Lite? If so, I know how you feel. It's a large, intimidating (and truly razor sharp) knife with a lot of blade momentum upon opening and closing. I haven't hurt myself with mine, but it did take me a good while to get used to opening and closing it without being sorta freaked out. I've never had a bad "vibe", so to speak, with any blade, but I have been intimidated by a few. I agree with Sam. You can get yourself so worked up about something that you end up creating the very situation you're trying to avoid, the very situation you were afraid of in the first place. Sort of the old self-fulfilling prophecy thing.
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Post by salvatore on Aug 21, 2008 1:39:42 GMT
Sal, are you talking about the 6" Ti-Lite? If so, I know how you feel. It's a large, intimidating (and truly razor sharp) knife with a lot of blade momentum upon opening and closing. I haven't hurt myself with mine, but it did take me a good while to get used to opening and closing it without being sorta freaked out. I've never had a bad "vibe", so to speak, with any blade, but I have been intimidated by a few. I agree with Sam. You can get yourself so worked up about something that you end up creating the very situation you're trying to avoid, the very situation you were afraid of in the first place. Sort of the old self-fulfilling prophecy thing. The 4 inch version, still razor sharp, though. It didn't open, period. it opened smoothly only one time, and that was the time it cut me. Kinda annoying. But yeah, when you put yourself in that state of mind, it is likely that you'll have an increased chance of getting injured.
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Post by lol74 on Aug 21, 2008 1:51:00 GMT
I don't know if this counts, but when my friend got out his bow, he shot it at a very hard target, at the wrong angle, the ricochet hit me in the collar bone and slightly cracked it, when he let me hold the bow before it hurt me I felt the feeling you get before you get into a fight you are not confident about.
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Post by salvatore on Aug 21, 2008 1:52:26 GMT
Yeah, that sure counts! That sucks man, when did that happen?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2008 4:00:43 GMT
Do you mean specificaly a feeling of dread or impending misfortune when you look at or handle the piece ? Or, do you mean a sensation of something just not being right with the particular weapon ? A nasty turning in your guts or the feeling of your hairs standing up when you touch it ? Just trying to understand exactly what you're refering to before I toss in my two cents.
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Aug 21, 2008 13:30:14 GMT
I never used to believe in the super-natural and at that time I would have told you that your nerves betrayed you and I would have echoed the "self-fulfilling prophecy" angle. I still think these are valid points worthy of your attention, but after living in Galveston, TX a few years ago I can no longer dismiss the super-natural. I like Brenno's take on the wisdom you can possibly have gained from this. I have never had a bad feeling abut one of my blades, but I have had the feeling about many other things and situations. nearly every time I am better off if I listen to the feeling, step back, figure out why I felt that way, and fix it before I continue. has actually saved my life a few times. an electrician cannot afford to make certain mistakes.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2008 16:27:33 GMT
Mmm never really with a sword, I'm usually extatic when they arrive I do get that ominous feeling with machetes though, I don't like them and as such I have never cut with them. The best way I can describe my view of a machete is 'brutal'. I don't believe in bad karma or superstition at all and I don't believe in the supernatural. Intuition is another thing though. Its simply the unconscious part of your noticing little details or recalling memories that your conscious mind is unaware of, this is generally accepted and has been proven through experimentation. So in general listening to that 'gut feeling' might be a good idea
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