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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2021 2:16:43 GMT
Now having had designed many pieces and then having them created. If there is anything that I have learned with all of the ups and downs, hits and misses, is that it is SUPER IMPORTANT to be absolutely as clear as possible with every single detail you can. Even the most minute detail that would seem obnoxious is important. Many of these craftsman are extremely skilled and capable BUT they are not usually used to the kind of pieces we are expecting to be crafted. Not that they can't do it, they absolutely can (especially with practice and proper guidance) BUT the kind of guidance and clarity needs to be exaggerated to a higher degree. I have literally spent hours drawing stuff up, finding relevant photos, etc. etc. Just to help as much as I can to have them understand how exactly I want the piece done. Preach.
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Post by Adventurer'sBlade on Jan 1, 2021 3:20:44 GMT
Are you saying you told him "screw it" euphemistically to indicate he shouldn't worry about it and he took that so literally on account of English being his second language that he put those godawful hex nuts in the pommel of your sword? Okay, that IS pretty funny. I might keep it like that myself. I'm still bewildered that a smith with 30 years of experience is okay with the results of the pattern welding. I'm not bewildered at all by that. I went to graduate school with foreign students who had no concept of what academic plagiarism. It some places of this world it just isn't a concept. So I am wondering if he just doesn't know. It's a possibility. That would only make sense here if he's completely new to pattern welding. Things like cold shunts or delams aren't regional preferences, they're serious flaws no matter where you're from. It would almost be patronizing to give him a pass on it because he's from a different part of the world. But it's a busy holiday season, and he said he didn't notice it, which makes sense. And he said he'd make it right, which is honorable. So that's that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2021 3:33:23 GMT
I'm not bewildered at all by that. I went to graduate school with foreign students who had no concept of what academic plagiarism. It some places of this world it just isn't a concept. So I am wondering if he just doesn't know. It's a possibility. That would only make sense here if he's completely new to pattern welding. Things like cold shunts or delams aren't regional preferences, they're serious flaws no matter where you're from. They are flaws, but they don't always lead to catastrophic failures. I'm just saying.
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Post by L Driggers (fallen) on Jan 1, 2021 4:36:59 GMT
I really can't believe he didn't notice. Also anytime someone ask me to make a sword I haven't did before I do a lot of research on it. There is really no excuse for the nuts used to hold the pommel to gather.
If you are having it redid find out the steels he will be using.
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Post by soulfromheart on Jan 1, 2021 10:41:16 GMT
Are you saying you told him "screw it" euphemistically to indicate he shouldn't worry about it and he took that so literally on account of English being his second language that he put those godawful hex nuts in the pommel of your sword? Okay, that IS pretty funny. I might keep it like that myself. It's my fitting(s) punishment. (I do find the irony hilarious myself ) (I believe that his reaction may have been "he's semprining nuts..." but, with my lack of following response, "whatever the customer says and wants, sir..." ) If it actually bothers me in the hand, I know an artisan that will fix it for me so no worries. Like Brother Nathaniel said, to be very precise, keep it simple and short, avoiding idioms when the other people is not fluent in a language, goes a really long way to avoid misunderstandings. I have something to remember the lesson now. As the sword is actually meant to be glorified Eye Candy, if it doesn't snap while dry handling, it's good enough for me. So no worries about the flaws either. Thanks everyone for the heads up though. I know the pattern of the blade is not to everyone's tastes but it is absolutely a success (for me) as he achieved something I am delighted with within the parameters I gave him. I especially love the way light reflects/dances on the lines on the edge, contrasting with the darker blade. It's like...flowing water on volcanic rock ? It's magical in action. If these lines are delamination lines, I will keep them as they are. They may be functional flaws but they actively serve the purpose of this commission. Something to keep in mind is that a very important part of the experience for me was to see how someone with limited ressources could achieve this kind of project with what's available, brain and talent. If the flaws are not catastrophic to the structural integrity of the blade, I won't ask him to redo it. He would have to fell some trees, make coal from scratch, reforge a blade with a pattern within the theme I want with the limited steel he would manage to make with the coal. During the winter in the Himalayas. Smiths are people too. All things considered, he really did well with what I gave him and I am really looking forward to it.
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