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Post by pgandy on Jul 9, 2021 22:33:57 GMT
This may help some with partial stick tang length. It’s from ACC’s catalog #189. I had to reduce the size 924 KB to pass SBG’s 1 MB limit. The grip length on my Longleaf is 4” and the BhojPure 3 3/ 4” to use as a reference. The Longleaf’s bare blade is item A and the BhojPure item D.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2021 22:52:33 GMT
I imagine handle problems are just part of daily maintenance for them, and something they are okay with putting up with. Not everyone does things with intentions of it being perfect or maintenance free, considering we all would probably happily use a carbon steel knife to cook with instead of stainless just because we appreciate tradition lol. Fixing their Kukri is probably part of their daily know how, like sharpening and oiling. We just have different expectations as westerners, and if we want one of their knives we shouldn't be surprised to have to maintain it as such
But still, I prefer full tang with handle scales. I am never against innovation for the right causes
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Post by pgandy on Jul 9, 2021 23:02:13 GMT
...See how the man sharpens the khukuri on some stone at the river? No fancy or complicated options there. I lost the Internet after the last post. A common occurrence. Ya, that video had a wealth of info. I saw the sharpening, grip replacement, the various carry methods, tools, and more. I also saw links to other videos that I was going to view at first chance but you have provided two more that I’ll after I chow down. I’ve looked for videos of the Nepalese but have failed to find what I was looking for. That one had it. I also ordered Windlass’ Mk3 Kukri. Not really sure of the motive but thought that in the long run I’d wish that I had. I’ve waited months for them to restock. I think that I can use that one as a knocker-around without much worry, not that I intend to abuse it. I’ve yet to get a Windlass knife that I didn’t like and think for the most part their knives a notch above their swords. I have an idea this will be a little chunkier than I’d prefer.
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Post by Simpleman on Jul 9, 2021 23:04:36 GMT
This may help some with partial stick tang length. It’s from ACC’s catalog #189. I had to reduce the size 924 KB to pass SBG’s 1 MB limit. The grip length on my Longleaf is 4” and the BhojPure 3 3/ 4” to use as a reference. The Longleaf’s bare blade is item A and the BhojPure item D. Nice, thank you. For the partial tangs, yeah that was considerad good enough for going to war with it. I have also seen something rather dangerous that could be good to be aware of, its partial tangs, but with a buttcap, keeper and protruding tang. Yes falsely giving the impression that its sticktang through. Not all artisans and blacksmiths take their job seriousely all the time. We are only humans. On a sidenote, that Gurkha "patchknife" have had a few questions raised about it, I am not sure but I dont think the description to be accurate and I think its more recent. Why I think so? Well there is something that makes me sceptical, and when listening to someone vastly more knowledgable then me, he expressed some concerns over it. Perhaps somebody here knows for sure?
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Post by pgandy on Jul 9, 2021 23:33:40 GMT
But still, I prefer full tang with handle scales. I am never against innovation for the right causes My new made kukris have stick tangs as well as full tangs. My two antiques partial stick tangs. All with stick tangs have a better feel handling. There are too many differences to make a direct comparison. The closest I can come the 15” budhume and 15” Mk3. The budhume is lighter with a longer PoB and feels like it has some life in it. The Mk3 feels indestrubible, heavier, and almost dead, for a lack of a better description. Both are my best combat knives, the budhume an all-time favourite. The budhume is more like those in the above video; softer metal making it easier to sharpen with a rock, would be easier to replace the grip, in short easier field maintenance. The Mk3 with a 55-57 HRC steel, riveted scales and full tang I think won’t be destroyed, but repairs will be more difficult and in a less affluent society not as attractive deal. I question if anyone in the video had $115 to spend on their knife.
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Post by Murffy on Jul 10, 2021 1:00:17 GMT
Interesting in the video how they use their kukris to chop down some pretty thick branches and trees. Also, I noticed they tend to chop with the portion of the belly closer to the handle.
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Post by pgandy on Jul 10, 2021 12:34:59 GMT
I have also seen something rather dangerous that could be good to be aware of, its partial tangs, but with a buttcap, keeper and protruding tang. Yes falsely giving the impression that its sticktang through. Not all artisans and blacksmiths take their job seriousely all the time. We are only humans. Thanks for the heads up. The Aitihasik that I’ll order later this month has a stick tang. HKKI doesn’t say so but one photo sent in by a reviewer shows a butt plate that appears to be peened. I suspect that KHHI doesn’t take a short cut but I’ll ask. I’ve seen antiques with a butt plate screwed with two small screws. So the butt plate alone would not be the determining fact of the tang’s length.
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Post by Simpleman on Jul 10, 2021 16:32:07 GMT
Thanks for the heads up. The Aitihasik that I’ll order later this month has a stick tang. HKKI doesn’t say so but one photo sent in by a reviewer shows a butt plate that appears to be peened. I suspect that KHHI doesn’t take a short cut but I’ll ask. I’ve seen antiques with a butt plate screwed with two small screws. So the butt plate alone would not be the determining fact of the tang’s length. Funny, I just checked in again on the KHHI. I think they have added some new photos to it (at least I havent seen them before), showing antique ones. I am sure they are reading this, as is other manufacturers. Hello to all. I dont think any of the bigger manufacturers take that specific shortcut, an individual somewhere along the line however might. I do think that KHHI takes shortcuts, but thats OT for this thread. For a specific thread about the most known places to buy from I could give my input, have had Khukuris from many. Its mostly about taste what one goes for, well in short anyway. When one have had eyes for a Khukuri a while, like you have for the Aitihasik, you should buy it. I think its fun imagine how a Khukuri would feel and behave, and then get it in the hand. I think you will be happy with it. It has a nice shape to it.
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Post by notthesharpest on Jul 11, 2021 3:06:40 GMT
Could that have been for export/tourist? Possibly.
HI marketed them as "this is what the locals make for their own use", and the proprietor indicated that he carried these items to support smiths in the rural areas. I was particularly interested in getting a local-type example to compare with my antique, since the other high-polish, newly-produced khukuris that I'd bought were so different. The "support the smith" was icing on the cake. (Reading simpleman's posts, I am clearly not the only one who thinks this way. I'll also take the chance to thank him for the videos - fascinating stuff.)
The idea of the separation did not phase me, per se. It had happened to me on a partial-tang bolo prior to the khukuri instance. What did upset me was that this happened after only a short period of use. The fact that the tang was so short made me think that maybe the smith made it with the intent to sell on to foreigners, and so did not care.
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Post by notthesharpest on Jul 11, 2021 3:11:13 GMT
Scratch my last - I just viewed the tang photos that pgandy posted. So my villager was probably about right, given that the blade from the shoulders to the tip was only about 10", when measured in a straight line.
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Post by Simpleman on Jul 11, 2021 9:54:02 GMT
HI marketed them as "this is what the locals make for their own use", and the proprietor indicated that he carried these items to support smiths in the rural areas. I was particularly interested in getting a local-type example to compare with my antique, since the other high-polish, newly-produced khukuris that I'd bought were so different. The "support the smith" was icing on the cake. (Reading simpleman's posts, I am clearly not the only one who thinks this way. I'll also take the chance to thank him for the videos - fascinating stuff.) The idea of the separation did not phase me, per se. It had happened to me on a partial-tang bolo prior to the khukuri instance. What did upset me was that this happened after only a short period of use. The fact that the tang was so short made me think that maybe the smith made it with the intent to sell on to foreigners, and so did not care. Seems like a blem slipped through HI`s eyes, it wasnt a good Khukuri. While HI style in general isnt my style I think of them as a company you can trust in regards of honesty. Today they dont get that much attention because of competition, but for some years many considered them as the standard. Needless to say, all manufacturers can experience quality problems. As a matter of fact, I think they do in different ways. Still I am glad you bought something genuine , while many companies today are good and some make traditional designs. Its for the export market. Many nepalis just dont have the money to pay for expensive knives. Some more examples of "villagers", I am afraid I dont have the source for 2 of them. If anyone does, let me know and I will ad it!
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Post by pgandy on Jul 11, 2021 13:04:33 GMT
Could that have been for export/tourist? Possibly.
HI marketed them as "this is what the locals make for their own use", and the proprietor indicated that he carried these items to support smiths in the rural areas. I was particularly interested in getting a local-type example to compare with my antique, since the other high-polish, newly-produced khukuris that I'd bought were so different. The "support the smith" was icing on the cake. (Reading simpleman's posts, I am clearly not the only one who thinks this way. I'll also take the chance to thank him for the videos - fascinating stuff.)
The idea of the separation did not phase me, per se. It had happened to me on a partial-tang bolo prior to the khukuri instance. What did upset me was that this happened after only a short period of use. The fact that the tang was so short made me think that maybe the smith made it with the intent to sell on to foreigners, and so did not care.
Perhaps the following links may be of interest. www.thekhukurihouse.com/all-by-hand-bhaktapure-chakra-bk www.thekhukurihouse.com/kukri-knife-primitive-making
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Post by pgandy on Jul 11, 2021 13:54:00 GMT
Please tell me more about the partial tang khukuri, any pics of it and the separation? Was it bought new and in that case from where? A lot of partial tangs beeing used, also shows one getting a handle re-attached. Thanks again for the videos. They led to links that I’m engrossed in. The author of the one below has a series of life in Nepal of several groups. The one I referenced below appears to be of a poorer rural family. It’s Part 1 of at least 19 of the family and I’m up to 7. It brings back memories that I can relate to this family. In some respects they are better off than I’ve been at times. For example they have running water, a hose with one end submerged in a mountain stream, the other in an improvised faucet of bamboo and tubing. I can imagine how cold that water is. I had to cart the water buckets in from my aunt’s house. At least we could wash indoors with some heat. When I was an adult I had a house with a well to draw from. I washed in the river or showed by standing under the eve of roof in a rain storm. In the series I saw the daughter in the background sharpening a kukri and in another video the son was the subject sharpening one, both used a stone, part of the house enterior. I can go on but would stray too far from the thread.
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Post by Simpleman on Jul 11, 2021 15:32:14 GMT
Thanks again for the videos. They led to links that I’m engrossed in. The author of the one below has a series of life in Nepal of several groups. The one I referenced below appears to be of a poorer rural family. It’s Part 1 of at least 19 of the family and I’m up to 7. It brings back memories that I can relate to this family. In some respects they are better off than I’ve been at times. For example they have running water, a hose with one end submerged in a mountain stream, the other in an improvised faucet of bamboo and tubing. I can imagine how cold that water is. I had to cart the water buckets in from my aunt’s house. At least we could wash indoors with some heat. When I was an adult I had a house with a well to draw from. I washed in the river or showed by standing under the eve of roof in a rain storm. In the series I saw the daughter in the background sharpening a kukri and in another video the son was the subject sharpening one, both used a stone, part of the house enterior. I can go on but would stray too far from the thread. Thank you so much for your story, everyday we know we come from different backgrounds, but its always a reminder when hearing someone telling about it. We carry backbacks through our lifes, filled with memories and our experience. While I am afraid I have taken the thread rather OT, here are some other channels (2). Khukuris play a minor roll, they are focused on everyday life, so Khukuris will be there but its not the thing. These type of clips doesnt tell anything about the MK5, what spine widht that is best for a 14" sirupate, but they will give some understanding from where the Khukuri comes from. Its soul so to speak. Iron Engineer Blacksmith || Making Khukuri and Axe (no cool music, no khukuri adverts, just blacksmiths working. Wished more of the khukuri could be seen, but this is not a pro production) Takasera: A Portrait of a Himalayan Village | Documentary Film | Nepal (a couple of kothimoras are seen)
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