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Post by Sir Thorfinn on Nov 10, 2020 13:33:57 GMT
Jeeze guys, paranoid much?
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Post by Lord Newport on Nov 10, 2020 14:35:21 GMT
Jeeze guys, paranoid much? I was a good Boy Scout and learned well the need to be prepared. That said, these discussions, at least here in the US where we are all relatively secure, are just mental exercises as much as "what sword would you take into combat...against dragons....lol
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Post by pellius on Nov 10, 2020 15:08:30 GMT
Jeeze guys, paranoid much? Hey, I don’t want to get caught without a note from mom, either.
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Post by RufusScorpius on Nov 11, 2020 20:19:40 GMT
I found a Mauser C96 at the bottom of the lake. I might just carry it around for a while. Got to get the salt water out of it first.
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Post by Lord Newport on Nov 11, 2020 20:45:35 GMT
I found a Mauser C96 at the bottom of the lake. I might just carry it around for a while. Got to get the salt water out of it first. Any Nazi gold with it? I lost all my stuff in a boating accident in the ocean just today...
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Post by RufusScorpius on Nov 11, 2020 22:33:24 GMT
Spanish gold maybe. It's the Astra 900 version from Spain. Quite the lake find. I'm gonna dive again tomorrow and see if they lost the ammo for it as well. Could get lucky.
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Post by howler on Nov 11, 2020 23:06:26 GMT
Load out? Alcohol, and weed if I was a smoker.
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Post by Adventurer'sBlade on Nov 12, 2020 3:26:43 GMT
I'm all for being prepared. I always carry a gun as it is. I think suddenly thinking you need bigger or more guns because it's election week is silly.
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Post by Lord Newport on Nov 12, 2020 4:57:14 GMT
I'm all for being prepared. I always carry a gun as it is. I think suddenly thinking you need bigger or more guns because it's election week is silly. Your right... they were all "peaceful protests"
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Post by Adventurer'sBlade on Nov 12, 2020 7:21:06 GMT
I'm all for being prepared. I always carry a gun as it is. I think suddenly thinking you need bigger or more guns because it's election week is silly. Your right... they were all "peaceful protests" If whatever gun you were carrying last year is inadequate now, it was inadequate then and you were never prepared at all. If it was adequate then, it's adequate now and you should take some melatonin and get a good night's sleep to ease your anxiety.
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Post by RufusScorpius on Nov 12, 2020 13:18:00 GMT
Your right... they were all "peaceful protests" If whatever gun you were carrying last year is inadequate now, it was inadequate then and you were never prepared at all. If it was adequate then, it's adequate now and you should take some melatonin and get a good night's sleep to ease your anxiety. I kind of have to agree with this. If what you had last year was good, then it's good now. If it's not good now, then it wasn't good last year. Being prepared means just that. And not just what you're carrying, but also what you know.
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Post by nerdthenord on Nov 12, 2020 13:27:05 GMT
I’m not leaving the house for the next few weeks except a doctors appointment today and one last dissection at college Monday, because we’ve got the virus bad again. That being said, if I got a sling for this I could legally carry it as long as I followed certain regulations about it. I won’t though, because there isn’t any unusual violence here and I’m not leaving the house. Attachments:
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Post by pellius on Nov 12, 2020 15:27:40 GMT
I'm all for being prepared. I always carry a gun as it is. I think suddenly thinking you need bigger or more guns because it's election week is silly. I always understood “prepared” to mean taking action to become adapted to a specific set of conditions or circumstances. So long as neither circumstances nor one’s understanding of them change, one’s preparation need not change. As circumstances change, previous adaptations become less effective. Your premise seems to be that the occurrence of an election is the only change in circumstances recently, and that it alone is not a change sufficient to reasonably support an adaptation in preparation. For me personally, I think that rational persons can reasonably disagree on the degree of recent changes in circumstances, and the personal need to adapt to those perceived changes.
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Post by Lord Newport on Nov 12, 2020 15:31:22 GMT
I'm all for being prepared. I always carry a gun as it is. I think suddenly thinking you need bigger or more guns because it's election week is silly. I always understood “prepared” to mean taking action to become adapted to a specific set of conditions or circumstances. So long as neither circumstances nor one’s understanding of them change, one’s preparation need not change. As circumstances change, previous adaptations become less effective. Your premise seems to be that the occurrence of an election is the only change in circumstances recently, and that it alone is not a change sufficient to reasonably support an adaptation in preparation. For me personally, I think that rational persons can reasonably disagree on the degree of recent changes in circumstances, and the personal need to adapt to those perceived changes. Had the exact results of this close election in the US been reversed, I wanted to be prepared for the alternate reality that I believe had a high probability of occurring. Others who did not have that outlook were free to have their own plans or lack thereof. Besides, its a good/ fun exercise regardless to check and prep kit you don't normally use or even see.
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Post by RufusScorpius on Nov 12, 2020 16:21:18 GMT
If you are getting prepared now, you're too late.
Being prepared also means anticipating probable events that are likely to happen, but don't have any immediate triggers that indicated they are imminent. Just like living on the East Coast, being prepared for a hurricane doesn't mean one is on the way right now, it's an understanding that it has happened in the past and could happen again in the future, not necessarily today.
A civil disturbance is always likely to happen, the trigger for the event is not relevant to the preparedness for it. A cop shooting or election may trigger the event, but the preparation should have already been done a long time ago. That is why I know all the good dive spots where my friends have been fishing... just in case...
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Post by pellius on Nov 12, 2020 16:38:26 GMT
If you are getting prepared now, you're too late. Being prepared also means anticipating probable events that are likely to happen, but don't have any immediate triggers that indicated they are imminent. Just like living on the East Coast, being prepared for a hurricane doesn't mean one is on the way right now, it's an understanding that it has happened in the past and could happen again in the future, not necessarily today. A civil disturbance is always likely to happen, the trigger for the event is not relevant to the preparedness for it. A cop shooting or election may trigger the event, but the preparation should have already been done a long time ago. That is why I know all the good dive spots where my friends have been fishing... just in case... Some may be changing their preparation, not to react to current or recent events (for which they were long prepared), but to proactively ready themselves for future difficulties that only recently seem to have become more likely. Just a thought from the cheap seats.
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Post by Lord Newport on Nov 12, 2020 16:41:24 GMT
If you are getting prepared now, you're too late. Being prepared also means anticipating probable events that are likely to happen, but don't have any immediate triggers that indicated they are imminent. Just like living on the East Coast, being prepared for a hurricane doesn't mean one is on the way right now, it's an understanding that it has happened in the past and could happen again in the future, not necessarily today. A civil disturbance is always likely to happen, the trigger for the event is not relevant to the preparedness for it. A cop shooting or election may trigger the event, but the preparation should have already been done a long time ago. That is why I know all the good dive spots where my friends have been fishing... just in case... I totally agree and have been as prepared as possible for quite some time for any reasonable eventuality with regard to a breakdown in the rule of law either from social disruption or natural disaster. Clearly the risk of any major problems as a result of the election is significantly diminished (thankfully) and the upgraded car kit is back in the safe/gear locker. Clearly the social unrest in major urban areas over the last of the US have a lot of people reassessing their security needs. People trying to get "prepared" now are paying big $$$ for their lack of preparedness. I don't have a problem with that either.
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Post by nerdthenord on Nov 12, 2020 18:13:23 GMT
My “not leaving the house” loadout lol. Granted, if I did leave the hose it would be in completely normal clothes, not this.
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Post by Sir Thorfinn on Nov 12, 2020 18:17:04 GMT
Take a tip from the Mormon play book. They try to keep a years worth of food stored, just in case. Not trying to incite one=better than another, just an observation.
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Post by Lord Newport on Nov 12, 2020 18:19:22 GMT
Take a tip from the Mormon play book. They try to keep a years worth of food stored, just in case. Not trying to incite one=better than another, just an observation. If the SHTF scenario that lasts a year comes to be, the population will be divided up into armed/unarmed, predators/prey. Clean water, food, medicine etc.. will all be subject to the tried and true proven rules of feudalism. Living in So. California with the constant threat of "The Big One" (earthquake) hanging over my head, I have prepared for that natural disaster and up to 3 months of societal break down as a result.
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