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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2008 1:49:23 GMT
Yup, I dun killed it. My dadao has bitten the dust and I am bummed. Apparently, you can only do so much "going apeshit on a 2x4" with it. I'm glad I quit when I did, the sword bent pretty badly at the hilt, with the blade bowing up toward me and rotating somewhat to the side. I tried to fix it in a vice, but couldn't get it to budge. I actually had to stomp off and go lift weights for a bit I was so mad/disappointed. That said, I am not poisoned against $60 swords. I would still recommend this one as a light cutter for anyone who was only going after bottles, noodles, and beach mats. It cut normal backyard targets well, holds an edge well even in heavier targets, and I'll miss it. I didn't know that this sword is a light to medium-duty chopper/slicer. I saw the 2x4 pic and thought I was golden.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2008 3:27:41 GMT
Sorry for your loss, I actually learned not to hit any type of wood with my sword because it leaves a nasty scratch on the blade that I have to work out with fine sand paper. I'm all about functional cosmetics
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2008 3:33:28 GMT
Did you try to cut through Great wall of China with your sword ? I am so sad to learn about the dead of your sword. Mine is still young (about 3 months old ) and I don't have 2 X 4 to play with ( it is very expensive in my area ) . What do you plan to do with your sword ? Do you want to get rid of the scabbard ? Please let me know if you want to sell the scabbard .
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2008 3:49:58 GMT
thanks for the condolences. I've calmed down a bit more, but am still sad. The blade is not even scuffed, but bit over 1/3 through the 2x4. I guess I did some accidental destructive testing. The dadao is a beast, I guess I'm just used to axes and machetes. As I said before, as long as it's not used in heavy blows into wood, the dadao is a freaking beast and stands up admirably to reasonable use.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2008 3:55:09 GMT
Did you try to cut through Great wall of China with your sword ? LMAO!!! < Thats funny!... but yeah bummer about the blade, sounds like it took quite a beating while it lasted. If you really liked it then why not buy another one? Theres no rule that says you can't own the same sword twice.... Just ask ianflaer, he had a clothesline that had been plotting its revenge on him for years! And when the opportunity presented itself, the clothesline took its revenge! hehehe! < Just kidding ian,.. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2008 6:26:26 GMT
No offense, but a 2x4 isn't an acceptable target for any sword, so you had this coming. You have the entirety of the internet available to you, websites like this and SFI are bound to have lists of acceptable targets. Purposely subjecting a cheap sword to a target, that even QUALITY swords aren't meant to handle, was incredibly ignorant. On the plus side, you only wrecked a $60 sword. You've (hopefully) learned a valuable lesson and at MUCH less cost than some, and didn't get hurt in the process.
I suggest you reflect upon the situation, and rethink your expectations from swords.
Just a reminder to all: Swords are NOT meant to deal with the shock stress incurred by striking solid wood and immobile/unforgiving objects.
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Post by randomnobody on Aug 16, 2008 6:33:31 GMT
What he said.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2008 11:52:08 GMT
A 2x4 is indeed a destructive target. Even more for a $60 sword. A lesson learned the hard way I guess, at least you'll know next time!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2008 23:05:24 GMT
Well, I'm glad you didn't hurt yourself while going apeshit with a sword vs what is, in essence, a small wooden beam.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2008 3:06:29 GMT
Wow, nothing like being called "incredibly ignorant." I would not have even dreamed of attempting this if the blurb did not include a pic of a 2x4 butchered by this dao. I had drawn the conclusion that perhaps such treatment was acceptable (within limitations) for this beefy blade. The first couple of hits convinced me further that the sword was sound. A few hits later, it was bent at about an inch below the hilt. I tried to repair the bend again tonight, and as the sword was coming back to true, the tang snapped. No one was hurt, because I was being very careful.
I have put twelve dollar machetes and tourist kukris through absolute hell on earth. I have used them not only to cut, but pry, dig, split wood, whittle, hammer nails, open coconuts, fell small trees, and other nastiness. There have been accidental run-ins with concrete, which required a touch-up with a file. I have even used them in one strange gunsmithing incident (Successfully). I wouldn't have dreamed of putting the dao through any of that, even though its design shares the weight-forward balance to aid chopping and cutting at the expence of the slicing grace of a nice double-edged Euro sword or a katana.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2008 4:27:49 GMT
[/I would not have even dreamed of attempting this if the blurb did not include a pic of a 2x4 butchered by this daoquote] I went back to the seller website and find the picture of 2X4 that you mentioned. Now I am not a lawyer but I have heard the term "false advertising " and "express warranty " from time to time .I think you should contact them about this because the picture mislead you to beleive that your sword can cut and chop down the 2x4 . When I bought mine the picture was not posted yet but then again I can not afford 2X4 to use as target. You are right about Kukri , I never leave home without one , heck I even carried one on guard duty back in the army day (until the NCO told me to put that curve knife back in the arms room or he will confisicate it ) .
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2008 4:48:00 GMT
I am in contact w/TS. The matter is being addressed. You will not find a better distributor to deal with.
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Post by 293master293 on Aug 20, 2008 21:44:25 GMT
I am in contact w/TS. The matter is being addressed. You will not find a better distributor to deal with. Well, maybe KoA. But trueswords is definitely one of the dealers on the top.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2008 23:29:37 GMT
I am in contact w/TS. The matter is being addressed. You will not find a better distributor to deal with. Glad that it all work out for you so now we can devote time looking for sword that can cut through M1 tank armor (okay, I am kidding here )
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2008 2:30:48 GMT
Yeah, no more wood. I found a tameshigiri website where the author claimed that cutting bottles was abusive! I have the option of a replacement, but I don't know whether to take it or not. Thana, have you seen your dadao's tang? If so, does it have a gob of weld about one inch back from the guard? I'm not sure if that's what I'm seeing, and the pics didn't have enough resolution to show one way or the other.
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Aug 21, 2008 13:52:08 GMT
Well, I laughed when I read Jim's post abut the clothes line plotting against me and I thought of what he often says about bottles being abusive so I might as well try and quote him. - the problem with plastic bottles (so the theory goes) lies not only in the fact that they have been designed to be tough and resistant to damage as a means to protect the product during shipping, but also in the irregularity of their resistance and contour. the example I have heard most often is to take a juice bottle, like one from Welch's or Juicey Juice, and cut it with a big pair of scissors diagonally following the path that the sword would follow. you will feel the varying resistance and thickness of the plastic and its tendancy to twist the scissors. this is why some people say not to cut bottles. I'm not saying I agree with it, but the logic is undeniably sound. I'm not gonna beat you up over hitting a board especially after the web site advertised it that way. I will say though, that people like Paul Southren can get away with hitting things like clothes lines, cinder blocks, and steel poles because they have very good technique and understanding of their weapon, and because they do not "go apeshit" on very hard targets. I'm going to assume (a dangerous word, I know) that you hit this 2x4 with a lot of force. I'm going to further assume that if you had struck more conservatively you could have chopped through that board with no damage to your dao. it's all about how the force is applied to the blade. swords, being longer than knives are subject to many, many, times the force durring hard cutting/chopping. thus a sword will be destroyed by a chop that may leave a knife in good shape and this is a good example of why stainless is good for knives and bad for swords.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2008 14:59:36 GMT
I had mentioned to one poster about deciding on this sword, and his reply was something like (he favored the dragon fury musashi as a first sword), "sure, you can go that way, if you'd rather go apeshit on a 2x4." I knew he was being sarcastic, but it felt and looked as if it were going to hold up through the first few blows. Regardless, I'm now aware of how dangerous and abusive wood targets can be (maybe that's why people don't use swords to demolish old houses I think I'll stick with bottles, beach mats, and the occasional pool noodle from here on out.
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Post by axeman on Aug 21, 2008 15:10:16 GMT
thats a good one ;D RIP
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Post by YlliwCir on Aug 21, 2008 16:37:13 GMT
If you want to go apeshit on a 2x4, you might try one of these, Or one of these would probably be better,
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2008 21:13:19 GMT
Yeah, no more wood. I found a tameshigiri website where the author claimed that cutting bottles was abusive! I have the option of a replacement, but I don't know whether to take it or not. Thana, have you seen your dadao's tang? If so, does it have a gob of weld about one inch back from the guard? I'm not sure if that's what I'm seeing, and the pics didn't have enough resolution to show one way or the other. You could get money back and continue you search for another sword ( you can alway go back and get the Dao ).May be get a nice Katana ? how about this one from swordnation.com I have not look underneath the grip and I don't want to break anything. But did the description on the web site stated "full tang " ?? Here we go again with the false advertising thing. I usually practice air cutting drill and form so I don't subject my Dao to extreme stress. May be the full tang thing is overrated because my ancentors used swords with filmsy rat tail to fend off many invaders in the past 800 years and they did not complain about their sword breakage until the invader started to cheat and brought Lebel , Arisaka and AK 47 in to the fray
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