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Post by usato on Feb 6, 2022 17:49:50 GMT
I would also pass my 20 euro machete on the stone in that mode, but I would prefer my sword not to see it.
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Post by pellius on Feb 6, 2022 18:50:33 GMT
Sending your blade to an experienced professional with a dedicated shop full of appropriate tools and materials will probably yield superior results.
Not very convenient for an individual to carry into the field, though.
If one wants an edge that passes inspection under a microscope, sharpening it in the field with a rock probably isn’t the best option. However, that was the subject of the OP.
Likewise, an expensive blade can be gorgeous. The owner will have to choose whether and how to use it in the wilderness.
Blades are consumable if used to cut. High end maintenance can prolong its life, but eventually it will be depleted.
Just my personal opinion.
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Post by usato on Feb 6, 2022 20:20:21 GMT
Sending your blade to an experienced professional with a dedicated shop full of appropriate tools and materials will probably yield superior results. Not very convenient for an individual to carry into the field, though. If one wants an edge that passes inspection under a microscope, sharpening it in the field with a rock probably isn’t the best option. However, that was the subject of the OP. Likewise, an expensive blade can be gorgeous. The owner will have to choose whether and how to use it in the wilderness. Blades are consumable if used to cut. High end maintenance can prolong its life, but eventually it will be depleted. Just my personal opinion. That's not true at all. I sharpened a test blade with a whetstone (4 €) ... the oval ones for agricultural tools which is equivalent to 220 grit. Under the microscope it is as if I had sharpened it with a naniwa 220. No chipping under the microscope. If it can be done with a 20X3 cm stone, it can be done with sandpaper on a support of the same size, without the need for a sharpener or a more complex method.
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Post by pellius on Feb 6, 2022 21:38:38 GMT
Sending your blade to an experienced professional with a dedicated shop full of appropriate tools and materials will probably yield superior results. Not very convenient for an individual to carry into the field, though. If one wants an edge that passes inspection under a microscope, sharpening it in the field with a rock probably isn’t the best option. However, that was the subject of the OP. Likewise, an expensive blade can be gorgeous. The owner will have to choose whether and how to use it in the wilderness. Blades are consumable if used to cut. High end maintenance can prolong its life, but eventually it will be depleted. Just my personal opinion. That's not true at all. I sharpened a test blade with a whetstone (4 €) ... the oval ones for agricultural tools which is equivalent to 220 grit. Under the microscope it is as if I had sharpened it with a naniwa 220. No chipping under the microscope. If it can be done with a 20X3 cm stone, it can be done with sandpaper on a support of the same size, without the need for a sharpener or a more complex method. It’s not true at all? None of it? I may simply have to disagree with you. Carrying your oval whetstone may have to be your answer then, bulky though it may be. In the balance between convenience of method and acceptable results, we seem to have different standards and goals. I don’t understand what you mean here: ”You would be forced to make passes all along the blade. Have you ever seen a sharp blade running lengthwise under the microscope? Create indentations that you don't want to see. You can also feel them on the nail.” I get that translation may be the issue, but I don’t get your point. It is possible to sharpen a sword blade lengthwise with handheld sandpaper. Or obliquely, or width wise. I’m not aware of any sword sharpening method that sharpens all points along the blade simultaneously. I’m always interested to learn, though. It’s probably your sharpening skills that deserve much of the credit for your results. Fortunately, you get to carry those with you wherever you go; no added weight at all.
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Post by usato on Feb 6, 2022 22:00:59 GMT
Penso sia un problema di traduzione. Non mi è possibile spiegare diversamente che facendo un video. Mi dispiace. Provo con un disegno stupido
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Post by pellius on Feb 6, 2022 23:22:36 GMT
Per Google Translate (for what it’s worth)
“I think it's a translation problem. It is not possible for me to explain otherwise than by making a video. I'm sorry. I try with a stupid drawing“
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Post by usato on Feb 6, 2022 23:49:31 GMT
hahaha, I thought I translated.
that's what i mean. Not longitudinally, but it is better transversely. longitudinally the edge becomes very delicate, even if easier.
In fact, who knows why those who sharpen professionally do not sharpen longitudinally.
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Post by Gorg on Sept 29, 2023 11:55:24 GMT
As a historical reenactor: Sharpening stones have been found in early medieval europe and they mostly have a shape of an eraser or something like that. They have a defined shape. And the people at the time knew what they did. People in movies rarely do. And filmmakers don't care much. Please don't consider things you see in medieval films/series to be true. Like clothing and craftmanship. To archeologists and reenactors like me these movies/series are pure comedy.
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Post by pgandy on Sept 29, 2023 13:21:06 GMT
I interpret sharpening stones in several ways. There are dedicated stones sold expressly for sharpening and I’ve seen rocks/stones that natives use for sharpening. I’ve also seen river stone and rocks that were part of a house’s construction used. As for me, I tried once with a rock (marble?) on my machete as an experiment. It worked. No video, but two photos of the end result below, and one includes the rock. Just read about carrying a stone in the field. Not to pass judgement on that, but what about finding a stone of opportunity, and then pitching it after the job is complete as I did?
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Post by mrstabby on Sept 29, 2023 14:17:19 GMT
Of course it works, why wouldn't it? Dedicated sharpening stones were just shaped, selected types of stones for a long time. You just need a stone with a flat, smooth surface that isn't too soft. Ceramic tableware works great too. TV just does not care sometimes on the "how", I know that, but what really bothers me is, when I see actors (un)sharpening their blades at a 90° angle to the edge.
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Post by larason2 on Oct 3, 2023 18:43:27 GMT
My mother in law used to routinely sharpen her knives on concrete. It worked, except for the few of them it chipped a big hole in the edge! So now I sharpen them for her!
As for finding a rock that will do it, around here it's really hard to find rocks that are suitable (all glacier rocks, most of them are too hard or porous!). But it's nice to live somewhere that has suitable rocks easy to find!
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