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Post by RufusScorpius on Jun 6, 2020 0:05:02 GMT
Unless you carry your trauma kit everywhere with you at all times, chances are you won't have it when you need it. If somebody is in need of emergency medical care, you will have to go home and get your stuff. Or you could find the the first woman you see and borrow a tampon. We used tampons in the Army. I went through 6 combat deployments in my career. They work, trust me, they work. Especially for stab or gunshot wounds. You shove the tampon deep in the cavity and it stops the bleeding almost instantly. Bad advice or not, it's saved a lot of lives on the battlefield. Naturally, having medical grade stuff is preferable. Even more preferable is to not get injured in the first place. Just keep your options open.... Tampons are better than rolled plain gauze any day for gunshots and stabs, hell yeah. But now you can get z-folded gauze impregnated with clotting agents that you can pack into an arterial junction bleed. They're $40 each but they're a great improvement. And it's way better than trying to pour celox into a wound. What if there is more than one wound? Or multiple people with multiple wounds? Is there any wisdom in using your own medical supplies on somebody else? What happens if you get injured next? If the victim is a woman, her purse is 90% likely to contain a tampon. If available, super glue works well for sealing up the bleeding, but it's only a last resort as it will cause horrible scarring when the surgeon has to cut out the flesh to get it out, but it's still better than dying. And you can use cotton thread to sew up a wound Rambo style, but it hurts like hell and will cause infections, but again, if that's the only option you got, then it's better than dying. Then there is the old skool hot iron trick to cauterize- but I can't think when that would be the right thing to do unless it's a complete failure of civilization or you are out in the boonies somewhere and have no other choice. I am not saying that you shouldn't have proper medical supplies; not by any means am I saying that. I am saying to think outside the box in case you find yourself in a SHTF situation and your store bought stuff is not at hand or it got used up. There is a critical fault in thinking a situation will turn out exactly as you have prepared for it. Situations never happen the way you think they will. It's best to plan more generically and then adapt to what happens. With luck, 911 is up and running, so all you have to do is use direct pressure until the paramedics arrive. |
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Post by Zen_Hydra on Jun 6, 2020 0:17:53 GMT
Unless you carry your trauma kit everywhere with you at all times, chances are you won't have it when you need it. If somebody is in need of emergency medical care, you will have to go home and get your stuff. Or you could find the the first woman you see and borrow a tampon. We used tampons in the Army. I went through 6 combat deployments in my career. They work, trust me, they work. Especially for stab or gunshot wounds. You shove the tampon deep in the cavity and it stops the bleeding almost instantly. Bad advice or not, it's saved a lot of lives on the battlefield. Naturally, having medical grade stuff is preferable. Even more preferable is to not get injured in the first place. Just keep your options open.... Tampons are better than rolled plain gauze any day for gunshots and stabs, hell yeah. But now you can get z-folded gauze impregnated with clotting agents that you can pack into an arterial junction bleed. They're $40 each but they're a great improvement. And it's way better than trying to pour celox into a wound. This. More so than a veritable arsenal of firearms (I swear I'm not kink shaming), I believe in building and maintaining a high quality medical kit. Especially if you do outdoors-y woodcraft-y type stuff, and doubly so if you have young-ish kids. You may never use a firearm in self-defense, but someone in your close circle of people is bound to have an accident necessitating more than a drugstore brand band-aid (that's so old the adhesive doesn't adhere). I basically keep and maintain an EMT/Field Medic kit. I'd be happy to practice arterial ligation, and/or field amputation, if anyone wants to volunteer. 😉 |
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Post by howler on Jun 6, 2020 0:44:56 GMT
Yikes, you have a point there, as mingling bad guys blood with yours wont make the breakfast of champions, and probably not enough time or good lighting to determining/vetting clean areas...just where has that bad guy been and what drug/bacteria residue.  I have been to several Tactical Casualty Care classes run by a Colonel in the US Army who is a Surgeon and runs the Combat Field Hospital operations for the California National Guard... Current doctrine ist stop the bleeding stop the bleeding stop the bleeding, and said he didnt care how dirty and filthy the wound got in that process. Once the victim is Medi-Vac'd to a hospital they can deal with infection. Stop the bleeding. |
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Post by howler on Jun 6, 2020 0:45:47 GMT
Keeping guns for self defense is tricky business in Norway, you are very likely to get in trouble with the law if you perform harm to a person unless you have absolutely no way of escaping, and even then..
So we find other ways to deter attackers I have absolutely no response to this post...a first for me.  Yikes. STOP THE BLEEDING!  |
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Post by howler on Jun 6, 2020 0:52:41 GMT
Keeping guns for self defense is tricky business in Norway, you are very likely to get in trouble with the law if you perform harm to a person unless you have absolutely no way of escaping, and even then..
So we find other ways to deter attackers Well someone is a bit of a size-queen aren't they? I do think that's an excellent deterrent for potential home invaders, especially is you come charging out in a gimp suit, and start swinging that horse cock around like Leatherface at the end of TCM. Deterrent as a not so subtle reminder to would be criminals on what awaits with a LENGTHY prison sentence.  |
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Post by Ouroboros on Jun 6, 2020 1:32:48 GMT
Keeping guns for self defense is tricky business in Norway, you are very likely to get in trouble with the law if you perform harm to a person unless you have absolutely no way of escaping, and even then..
So we find other ways to deter attackers "Harry didn't think that he did a very good job, so he grabbed the nearest thing to hand, which just so happened to be a 15 inch black rubber cock, and proceeded to beat poor old Smithy to death with. And that was seen as a nice way to go. Now, that, is why you pay Hatchet Harry, when you owe"-- lock stock and 2 smoking barrels. |
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Post by Lord Newport on Jun 6, 2020 4:50:17 GMT
Keeping guns for self defense is tricky business in Norway, you are very likely to get in trouble with the law if you perform harm to a person unless you have absolutely no way of escaping, and even then..
So we find other ways to deter attackers Well someone is a bit of a size-queen aren't they? I do think that's an excellent deterrent for potential home invaders, especially is you come charging out in a gimp suit, and start swinging that horse cock around like Leatherface at the end of TCM. |
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Post by Adventurer'sBlade on Jun 6, 2020 16:19:08 GMT
Thanks for tricking me into scrolling past half a dozen semprinis, guys.
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Post by Zen_Hydra on Jun 6, 2020 16:34:41 GMT
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Post by RufusScorpius on Jun 6, 2020 16:58:21 GMT
Well, this thread very quickly took a hard left turn....
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Post by MOK on Jun 6, 2020 17:29:42 GMT
Would you kindly secure your semprinis, guys? We try to be at least kinda sorta family friendly and you're getting into the boys' locker room mode, again.
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Post by MatthewGMK on Jun 6, 2020 20:23:20 GMT
For a second there I thought I was on pornhub ...
And if this is what some of you guys do in the, ahem, " boys, locker room " ... I'll quietly
take my business outside into the bushes.
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Post by ErikTheLed on Jun 6, 2020 22:05:17 GMT
I won't repost the pic again but those do a hell of number on coyotes! Only a few of them come back....
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Post by Robert in California on Jun 6, 2020 22:38:12 GMT
Nice kit.
Obviously you don't live in California, the land of the unfree.
RinC
Seems the big problems are in the blue states/cities where the cops are told to "stand down", those few criminals who are arrested are released immediatly, and the Mayors identify with the rioters/looters/violent criminals....which is sort of understandable because the bad folks are Dem voters. Blacks looting and useful idiot whites and Antifa types.
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Post by nerdthenord on Jun 6, 2020 23:35:01 GMT
Nice kit. Obviously you don't live in California, the land of the unfree. RinC Seems the big problems are in the blue states/cities where the cops are told to "stand down", those few criminals who are arrested are released immediatly, and the Mayors identify with the rioters/looters/violent criminals....which is sort of understandable because the bad folks are Dem voters. Blacks looting and useful idiot whites and Antifa types. No politics please. We don’t need another locked thread. |
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Post by MOK on Jun 7, 2020 2:22:14 GMT
Nice kit. Obviously you don't live in California, the land of the unfree. RinC Seems the big problems are in the blue states/cities where the cops are told to "stand down", those few criminals who are arrested are released immediatly, and the Mayors identify with the rioters/looters/violent criminals....which is sort of understandable because the bad folks are Dem voters. Blacks looting and useful idiot whites and Antifa types. |
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Post by Lord Newport on Jul 16, 2020 16:55:52 GMT
Nice kit. Obviously you don't live in California, the land of the unfree. RinC Seems the big problems are in the blue states/cities where the cops are told to "stand down", those few criminals who are arrested are released immediatly, and the Mayors identify with the rioters/looters/violent criminals....which is sort of understandable because the bad folks are Dem voters. Blacks looting and useful idiot whites and Antifa types. Actually I do live in the Peoples Republik of Kalifornia...Happily I have a lot of grandfathered weapons and some exemptions as well.  Given what is going on here, I am content with my preparations. My neighborhood / home is not the place to show up uninvited with crime on your mind.  |
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Post by theophilus736 on Jul 18, 2020 20:21:58 GMT
Sick pistol, OP. Most of what I have is for situations other than break-ins. Civil unrest type stuff like in your first picture. God help us if it comes to that in the U.S. For daily home protection it's whatever pistol I have on me, and a short, handy, and quiet 556 with frangible or expanding ammo. With a very bright light and hopefully a loud voice that through command presence prevents any actual violence.
Edit: Medical is something I've personally neglected. Plan on taking a couple of trauma med classes this fall. Should help for putting together a kit, but for now I'll just have to avoid situations where myself or others will be damaged.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2021 8:13:59 GMT
Beliefs and a cell phone.
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Things have changed!