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Post by nerdthenord on May 9, 2020 0:46:08 GMT
Primaris Repulsor, because while you can never have enough Dakka, these are a step in the right direction.  |
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Post by treeslicer on May 9, 2020 4:45:59 GMT
Nice targets, everybody. Here's what I want. 
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Post by Lord Newport on May 9, 2020 7:41:55 GMT
Nice targets, everybody. Here's what I want.
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Post by Lord Newport on May 9, 2020 7:50:47 GMT
That photo has a mix of PzII's and Captured Czech made Panzer 38(t)'s. |
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Post by zabazagobo on May 9, 2020 8:11:42 GMT
Nice targets, everybody. Here's what I want.
I'll up the ante even further.
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Post by nerdthenord on May 9, 2020 13:39:40 GMT
T20 prototype American medium tank. It was supposed to be a replacement for the increasingly obsolete M4 Sherman in WW2 but was never implemented. It would have been roughly equivalent to the Soviet T34. Parts did end up in the design for the Pershing heavy tank though.  |
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Post by Lord Newport on May 9, 2020 15:36:53 GMT
Nice targets, everybody. Here's what I want.
I'll up the ante even further.
Nice, I actually gave buying a Russian Submarine for sale a couple years ago enough serious thought to make some inquiries...at $550k ASKING price (probably would sell for +/- $400K) it would have cost about as much as the Sherman Tank or the Hetzer is worth and I would have been the "first kid on the block" in Newport Beach with a Russian Submarine but... I decided not to follow thru as 1) I was a SWO in the Navy not a Submariner, 2) it was old and Russian made therefore I would never trust it to submerge and be able to return to the surface, 3) I did not think it would be reliable for the trip from St. Petersburg naval yard all the way to California and had no ability to deal with emergencies/breakdown. 4) spare parts and maintenance would be a nightmare of the highest order, 5) fuel expense; it would have cost as much in fuel to sail it to California as it cost to buy, 6) finding and keeping a qualified crew, 7) it is an Asbestos mine 8) no place to dock it in Newport Beach where I live. www.maritimesales.com/PI12.htmRussian Whiskey Class Submarine that was for sale two years ago.  The Russian FoxTrot sub next to the Queen Mary in Long beach, CA USA is currently for sale too but it doesn't run and hasn't been maintained at all...I have been on it and I am surprised it still floats as it appears to be held together by the rust. www.maritimesales.com/SSH10.htm |
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Post by treeslicer on May 9, 2020 16:48:30 GMT
I'll up the ante even further.
Nice, I actually gave buying a Russian Submarine for sale a couple years ago enough serious thought to make some inquiries...at $550k ASKING price (probably would sell for +/- $400K) it would have cost about as much as the Sherman Tank or the Hetzer is worth and I would have been the "first kid on the block" in Newport Beach with a Russian Submarine but... I decided not to follow thru as 1) I was a SWO in the Navy not a Submariner, 2) it was old and Russian made therefore I would never trust it to submerge and be able to return to the surface, 3) I did not think it would be reliable for the trip from St. Petersburg naval yard all the way to California and had no ability to deal with emergencies/breakdown. 4) spare parts and maintenance would be a nightmare of the highest order, 5) fuel expense; it would have cost as much in fuel to sail it to California as it cost to buy, 6) finding and keeping a qualified crew, 7) it is an Asbestos mine 8) no place to dock it in Newport Beach where I live. www.maritimesales.com/PI12.htmRussian Whiskey Class Submarine that was for sale two years ago. The Russian FoxTrot sub next to the Queen Mary in Long beach, CA USA is currently for sale too but it doesn't run and hasn't been maintained at all...I have been on it and I am surprised it still floats as it appears to be held together by the rust. www.maritimesales.com/SSH10.htmBack in the 1970's, one of the Hollywood studios (Universal, IIRC) was selling off its small fleet of U-boats for $10,000 each. Some friends and I looked into buying one and moving it to Galveston to restore, but the various associated costs turned out to be prohibitive. |
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Post by Lord Newport on May 9, 2020 16:53:57 GMT
Nice, I actually gave buying a Russian Submarine for sale a couple years ago enough serious thought to make some inquiries...at $550k ASKING price (probably would sell for +/- $400K) it would have cost about as much as the Sherman Tank or the Hetzer is worth and I would have been the "first kid on the block" in Newport Beach with a Russian Submarine but... I decided not to follow thru as 1) I was a SWO in the Navy not a Submariner, 2) it was old and Russian made therefore I would never trust it to submerge and be able to return to the surface, 3) I did not think it would be reliable for the trip from St. Petersburg naval yard all the way to California and had no ability to deal with emergencies/breakdown. 4) spare parts and maintenance would be a nightmare of the highest order, 5) fuel expense; it would have cost as much in fuel to sail it to California as it cost to buy, 6) finding and keeping a qualified crew, 7) it is an Asbestos mine 8) no place to dock it in Newport Beach where I live. www.maritimesales.com/PI12.htmRussian Whiskey Class Submarine that was for sale two years ago. The Russian FoxTrot sub next to the Queen Mary in Long beach, CA USA is currently for sale too but it doesn't run and hasn't been maintained at all...I have been on it and I am surprised it still floats as it appears to be held together by the rust. www.maritimesales.com/SSH10.htmBack in the 1970's, one of the Hollywood studios (Universal, IIRC) was selling off its small fleet of U-boats for $10,000 each. Some friends and I looked into buying one and moving it to Galveston to restore, but the various associated costs turned out to be prohibitive. Yup.. seems like a great idea, more so after a couple drinks with friends but once you get into the details only governments and billionaires can really play in that arena. Even military aircraft are very prohibitive. At least with the Armored Fighting Vehicles (AFV's), when they break down, you dont crash and burn or sink to the bottom. I was so looking forward to being the only kid on the block with a Russian submarine too...  |
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Post by treeslicer on May 9, 2020 17:16:21 GMT
Back in the 1970's, one of the Hollywood studios (Universal, IIRC) was selling off its small fleet of U-boats for $10,000 each. Some friends and I looked into buying one and moving it to Galveston to restore, but the various associated costs turned out to be prohibitive. Yup.. seems like a great idea, more so after a couple drinks with friends but once you get into the details only governments and billionaires can really play in that arena. Even military aircraft are very prohibitive. At least with the Armored Fighting Vehicles (AFV's), when they break down, you dont crash and burn or sink to the bottom. I was so looking forward to being the only kid on the block with a Russian submarine too... Just for one parts example, you have any idea how many leaky valves could need packing glands, etc., replaced? Then all the pressure bottles need recerts or replacement. And you need all the manuals, and the ability to read them. All your acquaintances who sell maritime insurance suddenly hide from you. The local CG CO jokes about needing to stock a truckload of violation forms. The batteries are a nightmare, but then you notice the head plumbing and forget about the batteries.........The list is incredibly long, and it all costs money. Warbirds, even jets, have a much shorter list. AFV's even shorter than that. |
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Post by howler on May 9, 2020 19:01:32 GMT
Yup.. seems like a great idea, more so after a couple drinks with friends but once you get into the details only governments and billionaires can really play in that arena. Even military aircraft are very prohibitive. At least with the Armored Fighting Vehicles (AFV's), when they break down, you dont crash and burn or sink to the bottom. I was so looking forward to being the only kid on the block with a Russian submarine too... Just for one parts example, you have any idea how many leaky valves could need packing glands, etc., replaced? Then all the pressure bottles need recerts or replacement. And you need all the manuals, and the ability to read them. All your acquaintances who sell maritime insurance suddenly hide from you. The local CG CO jokes about needing to stock a truckload of violation forms. The batteries are a nightmare, but then you notice the head plumbing and forget about the batteries.........The list is incredibly long, and it all costs money. Warbirds, even jets, have a much shorter list. AFV's even shorter than that. You guys made it official...crossing subs off my list. Sounds like the only thing you can truly count on would be a one way trip to Davy Jones locker...and that's just your bank account. Wouldn't mind that Maus tank in Russia, I heard they were actually thinking on making it run (not more than an amalgamation shell). The Germans signed off on making a bunch of them after a few tests showed they ran ok in tests (if you count 13mph running), more a mobile pillbox, but if you had enough of those 200+ ton monsters interspersed in a city working together and with smaller support vehicles it would be interesting. |
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Post by paulmuaddib on May 9, 2020 20:23:23 GMT
Well since were off tanks some, I always wanted an Cobra helicopter. And no I don’t have a pilots license, but I’d sure as hell get one if I could afford an Cobra.
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Post by Tomt24 on May 9, 2020 22:29:58 GMT
Nice, I actually gave buying a Russian Submarine for sale a couple years ago enough serious thought to make some inquiries...at $550k ASKING price (probably would sell for +/- $400K) it would have cost about as much as the Sherman Tank or the Hetzer is worth and I would have been the "first kid on the block" in Newport Beach with a Russian Submarine but... I decided not to follow thru as 1) I was a SWO in the Navy not a Submariner, 2) it was old and Russian made therefore I would never trust it to submerge and be able to return to the surface, 3) I did not think it would be reliable for the trip from St. Petersburg naval yard all the way to California and had no ability to deal with emergencies/breakdown. 4) spare parts and maintenance would be a nightmare of the highest order, 5) fuel expense; it would have cost as much in fuel to sail it to California as it cost to buy, 6) finding and keeping a qualified crew, 7) it is an Asbestos mine 8) no place to dock it in Newport Beach where I live. Russian Whiskey Class Submarine that was for sale two years ago. The Russian FoxTrot sub next to the Queen Mary in Long beach, CA USA is currently for sale too but it doesn't run and hasn't been maintained at all...I have been on it and I am surprised it still floats as it appears to be held together by the rust.
Have you ever considered a "wet-sub"?
Like Maiale or Chariot rideable Torpedos of WW2?
All your safety relevant features would be modern diving gear und you are never trapped inside the vehicle.
Worst case is your expensive toy ending up on the seabed.
Chariot MK.I are based on pretty standard british torpedos.
An old empty shell could be suitable base.
So far I never seen anything like that operational.
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Post by Lord Newport on May 9, 2020 23:35:29 GMT
Nice, I actually gave buying a Russian Submarine for sale a couple years ago enough serious thought to make some inquiries...at $550k ASKING price (probably would sell for +/- $400K) it would have cost about as much as the Sherman Tank or the Hetzer is worth and I would have been the "first kid on the block" in Newport Beach with a Russian Submarine but... I decided not to follow thru as 1) I was a SWO in the Navy not a Submariner, 2) it was old and Russian made therefore I would never trust it to submerge and be able to return to the surface, 3) I did not think it would be reliable for the trip from St. Petersburg naval yard all the way to California and had no ability to deal with emergencies/breakdown. 4) spare parts and maintenance would be a nightmare of the highest order, 5) fuel expense; it would have cost as much in fuel to sail it to California as it cost to buy, 6) finding and keeping a qualified crew, 7) it is an Asbestos mine 8) no place to dock it in Newport Beach where I live. Russian Whiskey Class Submarine that was for sale two years ago. The Russian FoxTrot sub next to the Queen Mary in Long beach, CA USA is currently for sale too but it doesn't run and hasn't been maintained at all...I have been on it and I am surprised it still floats as it appears to be held together by the rust.
Have you ever considered a "wet-sub"?
Like Maiale or Chariot rideable Torpedos of WW2?
All your safety relevant features would be modern diving gear und you are never trapped inside the vehicle.
Worst case is your expensive toy ending up on the seabed.
Chariot MK.I are based on pretty standard british torpedos.
An old empty shell could be suitable base.
So far I never seen anything like that operational.
The point of buying a Russian submarine and bringing it to southern California is to have the coolest unobtanium toy in the sandbox. |
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Post by Tomt24 on May 10, 2020 2:50:59 GMT
I get where you going, but is a rideable Torpedo that uncool? ^^
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Post by Lord Newport on May 10, 2020 3:07:04 GMT
I get where you going, but is a rideable Torpedo that uncool? ^^ No room for a bar or even a cooler. You cant drink while submerged....totally worthless. |
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Post by howler on May 10, 2020 3:22:39 GMT
I get where you going, but is a rideable Torpedo that uncool? ^^ No room for a bar or even a cooler. You cant drink while submerged....totally worthless. Sure you can drink...a whole oceans worth of salt water...but no buzz, and you wont ever rise to the surface again, Davy Jones being your final bartender. |
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Post by Lord Newport on May 10, 2020 3:29:47 GMT
No room for a bar or even a cooler. You cant drink while submerged....totally worthless. Sure you can drink...a whole oceans worth of salt water...but no buzz, and you wont ever rise to the surface again, Davy Jones being your final bartender. exactly my point.. wheres the fun? |
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Post by zabazagobo on May 12, 2020 5:16:48 GMT
I'll up the ante even further.
Nice, I actually gave buying a Russian Submarine for sale a couple years ago enough serious thought to make some inquiries...at $550k ASKING price (probably would sell for +/- $400K) it would have cost about as much as the Sherman Tank or the Hetzer is worth and I would have been the "first kid on the block" in Newport Beach with a Russian Submarine but... I decided not to follow thru as 1) I was a SWO in the Navy not a Submariner, 2) it was old and Russian made therefore I would never trust it to submerge and be able to return to the surface, 3) I did not think it would be reliable for the trip from St. Petersburg naval yard all the way to California and had no ability to deal with emergencies/breakdown. 4) spare parts and maintenance would be a nightmare of the highest order, 5) fuel expense; it would have cost as much in fuel to sail it to California as it cost to buy, 6) finding and keeping a qualified crew, 7) it is an Asbestos mine 8) no place to dock it in Newport Beach where I live. www.maritimesales.com/PI12.htmRussian Whiskey Class Submarine that was for sale two years ago. The Russian FoxTrot sub next to the Queen Mary in Long beach, CA USA is currently for sale too but it doesn't run and hasn't been maintained at all...I have been on it and I am surprised it still floats as it appears to be held together by the rust. www.maritimesales.com/SSH10.htmThis entire list of reasons is gold. You still think it was a sketchy prospect? 
I would only buy a submarine if Paul and Ringo were included.
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Post by Lord Newport on May 12, 2020 16:40:17 GMT
Nice, I actually gave buying a Russian Submarine for sale a couple years ago enough serious thought to make some inquiries...at $550k ASKING price (probably would sell for +/- $400K) it would have cost about as much as the Sherman Tank or the Hetzer is worth and I would have been the "first kid on the block" in Newport Beach with a Russian Submarine but... I decided not to follow thru as 1) I was a SWO in the Navy not a Submariner, 2) it was old and Russian made therefore I would never trust it to submerge and be able to return to the surface, 3) I did not think it would be reliable for the trip from St. Petersburg naval yard all the way to California and had no ability to deal with emergencies/breakdown. 4) spare parts and maintenance would be a nightmare of the highest order, 5) fuel expense; it would have cost as much in fuel to sail it to California as it cost to buy, 6) finding and keeping a qualified crew, 7) it is an Asbestos mine 8) no place to dock it in Newport Beach where I live. www.maritimesales.com/PI12.htmRussian Whiskey Class Submarine that was for sale two years ago. The Russian FoxTrot sub next to the Queen Mary in Long beach, CA USA is currently for sale too but it doesn't run and hasn't been maintained at all...I have been on it and I am surprised it still floats as it appears to be held together by the rust. www.maritimesales.com/SSH10.htmThis entire list of reasons is gold. You still think it was a sketchy prospect?
I would only buy a submarine if Paul and Ringo were included.
I wouldn't say it was a sketchy prospect...I really did look into it after seeing the ad. I have the money to buy it and for $400k if it was operational and in the US/West Coast I probably would have bought as it would be cool to own. With the boat laying in Russia on the Baltic, but it became very clear that the fun/cool factor could not justify the excessive and unknown additional costs. Oh well... |
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