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Post by Curtis_Louis on May 7, 2020 19:13:01 GMT
Privately owned tanks only please...
Update: Tanks that you are currently longing for can also be included.
i.e. "If I had a tank collection, it would include..."
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Post by Dandelion on May 7, 2020 19:16:18 GMT
Privately owned... you serious? O.o
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Post by Curtis_Louis on May 7, 2020 19:18:18 GMT
As serious as an M1 Abrams.
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Post by howler on May 7, 2020 19:34:55 GMT
Privately owned... you serious? O.o I'm guessing civilian owned armored vehicles are disabled enough to not have the ability to fire live rounds (but again I'm only guessing). I am pretty sure you cannot purchase functional ammunition (still guessing, but just can't imagine that being legal).
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Post by stormmaster on May 7, 2020 19:36:43 GMT
I used to have a privately owned fish tank, glorious 60 incher
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Post by howler on May 7, 2020 19:45:28 GMT
I used to have a privately owned fish tank, glorious 60 incher Dang, you beat me to it, as I was typing on the other thread about maybe naming it armored vehicles, so as not to confuse with spousal nicknames and boring containers. Btw, I had a fish tank as well when I was younger. what a pain to keep clean, but assume there are some expensive ones nowadays that could be more self cleaning.
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Post by howler on May 7, 2020 19:49:29 GMT
Best tank of WW2. Does one include production value in the equation? My pick would be a medium sized one due to best combination of range, mobility, firepower, protection, production. T34 86. Do we count models created near or at end of the war that did not see much or any action?
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Post by paulmuaddib on May 7, 2020 19:58:19 GMT
Privately owned... you serious? O.o I'm guessing civilian owned armored vehicles are disabled enough to not have the ability to fire live rounds (but again I'm only guessing). I am pretty sure you cannot purchase functional ammunition (still guessing, but just can't imagine that being legal). Any former military equipment that firing weapons(guns,tanks,planes,helicopters,etc) that a civilian can purchase will be demilitarized. Which means that they can’t be fired or be rebuilt to fire.
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Post by nerdthenord on May 7, 2020 20:21:15 GMT
And I felt left out because I couldn’t contribute to the high end custom threads for a couple of years! At least make it so we can show what tanks we want to eventually own!
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Post by Curtis_Louis on May 7, 2020 21:58:41 GMT
And I felt left out because I couldn’t contribute to the high end custom threads for a couple of years! At least make it so we can show what tanks we want to eventually own! Your wish is my command. Updated thread criteria.
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Post by howler on May 8, 2020 0:03:28 GMT
I'm guessing civilian owned armored vehicles are disabled enough to not have the ability to fire live rounds (but again I'm only guessing). I am pretty sure you cannot purchase functional ammunition (still guessing, but just can't imagine that being legal). Any former military equipment that firing weapons(guns,tanks,planes,helicopters,etc) that a civilian can purchase will be demilitarized. Which means that they can’t be fired or be rebuilt to fire. I thought that was the case. Makes sense.
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Post by Lord Newport on May 8, 2020 0:05:31 GMT
OK, Ok... a few of my collection. I live in So California and rent them out for films/special events. I either own them outright or am a partner in their ownership. German Sd.Kfz.251/17 ausf. D  German Sd.Kfz. 251/1 ausf. D  Russian (czech made) T54MBT at Levi stadium for WWF Wrestlemania XXXI  M75 APC  Sd.Kdz.215/17 Ausf D with R.Lee Ermey production of Locked and Loaded  Sd.Kfz. 251/1 quad D on set of "Fury"  M4 Sherman at sound stage 3 DisneyStudios Burbank for Rap Video  M4 Sherman at E3 Expo 
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Post by howler on May 8, 2020 0:13:23 GMT
And I felt left out because I couldn’t contribute to the high end custom threads for a couple of years! At least make it so we can show what tanks we want to eventually own! Just buy a smaller one, like a Sherman. Nobody will notice. I think there was an 80's movie with James Garner called Tank where he gave a quote from atop his Sherman: "I do believe I got you covered".
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Post by howler on May 8, 2020 0:18:46 GMT
OK, Ok... a few of my collection. I live in So California and rent them out for films/special events. German Sd.Kfz.251/17 ausf. D  German Sd.Kfz. 251/1 ausf. D Russian (czech made) T54MBT at Levi stadium for WWF Wrestlemania XXXI M75 APC Sd.Kdz.215/17 Ausf D with R.Lee Ermey production of Locked and Loaded Sd.Kfz. 251/1 quad D on set of "Fury" M4 Sherman at sound stage 3 DisneyStudios Burbank for Rap Video M4 Sherman at E3 Expo Are you effing kidding me?!? Man, I was half joking. Wow, all that and the late "gunny" Mr. Ermey too. Holy Smokes and good job. Love that ausf. D.
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Post by Lord Newport on May 8, 2020 0:26:51 GMT
m18 Hellcat tank destroyer in SD convention center for TwitchCon  Wrestle mania again.. my 15 min of fame...lol  M4A3 Sherman (friends) and T34/85 at E3 Expo LA Convention center 
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Post by Lord Newport on May 8, 2020 0:42:24 GMT
I'm guessing civilian owned armored vehicles are disabled enough to not have the ability to fire live rounds (but again I'm only guessing). I am pretty sure you cannot purchase functional ammunition (still guessing, but just can't imagine that being legal). Any former military equipment that firing weapons(guns,tanks,planes,helicopters,etc) that a civilian can purchase will be demilitarized. Which means that they can’t be fired or be rebuilt to fire. Any class III destructive requires special license and only certain states allow residents to have them. Otherwise, any main gun/cannon (any gun bigger than .50 cal) must be demilitarized (de-milled). There are three criteria from ATF and two of the three must be done (most of us do all three) , inspected by ATF and certified; - steel pin 1/2 diameter of the bore welded into the barrel 1/2 way between breech and muzzle. - Hole cut in pressure chamber with plasma torch same diameter as the bore - Breech ring welded to breech Anyone who gets a Class III licence CAN own a tank a live main gun. I have several friends "free states" like New Mexico, Texas, Indiana and Oregon who have live guns in their tanks. The liability is huge, ammo must be hand made and is expensive and you have to have a place to shoot them. All of mine will fire blackpowder blanks for effect only.
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Post by zabazagobo on May 8, 2020 2:12:20 GMT
The fact that this thread can be taken seriously is nothing short of amazing. Awesome anecdotes and pictures, thanks for sharing.
I'd say "here's some karma", but this forum doesn't have any karma. So treat yourself to some shawarma.
Geez, that sounds rather tasty right about now.
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Post by Lord Newport on May 8, 2020 2:24:27 GMT
The fact that this thread can be taken seriously is nothing short of amazing. Awesome anecdotes and pictures, thanks for sharing.
I'd say "here's some karma", but this forum doesn't have any karma. So treat yourself to some shawarma.
Geez, that sounds rather tasty right about now.
What is interesting is that the English have a far more developed AFV (armored fighting vehicle) collecting community than here in the States. You can even get a "tank drivers license" from the Ministry of Transportation; driving a tank on the road requires a category H licence, but amazingly anyone with a full UK car licence is entitled to a provisional H licence. This permits you to drive a road-legal tank as long as you display L plates and are accompanied by a someone with a full H licence.
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Post by Lord Newport on May 8, 2020 2:32:41 GMT
Best tank of WW2. Does one include production value in the equation? My pick would be a medium sized one due to best combination of range, mobility, firepower, protection, production. T34/85 86. Do we count models created near or at end of the war that did not see much or any action? The T34 was originally equipped with a 75mm gun (T34/76) until the Russians found themselves out ranged by the 7.5 cm KwK 42 L/70 on the Panther as well as the Tiger's 8.8 cm KwK 36 when they upgraded the T34 late in the war to the 85mm High velocity gun ( T34/85 )
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Post by howler on May 8, 2020 2:40:53 GMT
The fact that this thread can be taken seriously is nothing short of amazing. Awesome anecdotes and pictures, thanks for sharing.
I'd say "here's some karma", but this forum doesn't have any karma. So treat yourself to some shawarma.
Geez, that sounds rather tasty right about now.
What is interesting is that the English have a far more developed AFV (armored fighting vehicle) collecting community than here in the States. You can even get a "tank drivers license" from the Ministry of Transportation; driving a tank on the road requires a category H licence, but amazingly anyone with a full UK car licence is entitled to a provisional H licence. This permits you to drive a road-legal tank as long as you display L plates and are accompanied by a someone with a full H licence. I wonder if part of the reason for the more developed AFV community was the cost & hassle of transport back to the states from the European theater. Tanks have incredible destructive power even without the cannon, as I remember years ago a lunatic stealing a tank and going on a rampage just flattening all in his wake. Come to think of it I also remember a maniac altering a tractor with armor and committing similar mayhem. Instant Juggernaut.
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