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Post by Siward on Nov 9, 2019 7:46:48 GMT
Yeah, and we EU guys know that those standards are made not only for health and safety reasons. I assume there's not a big difference for trade into the other direction. But can this be the reason for the latest problems with certain air carriers shipping swords? My suspicion is that shipping a 'weapon' into the EU entails extra paperwork, which adds cost. Not a problem for a carrier like UPS because they ship a lot of stuff that's going to trigger extra paperwork. But for a commercial airline, extra paperwork is extra cost, so it's likely more cost effective to just refuse to carry it. I doubt swords and knives are going to be a problem coming into the US. US Customs has other priorities. That would tally with me have to prove conformity with UK weapons law on imports.
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Post by Dandelion on Nov 9, 2019 10:32:31 GMT
Our last trade transaction with stormmaster was 5 days delivery with FedEx to Germany, and TWO MONTHS of discussion with customs and FedEx considering the declaration of the items!
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Nov 9, 2019 12:01:56 GMT
Does the air carrier get any problems if a shipped sword stucks in customs after shipping?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 14:30:10 GMT
Does the air carrier get any problems if a shipped sword stucks in customs after shipping? I would guess that those costs would be on the person receiving the item in the form of customs fees. For sure, someone is going to pay... Customs is not going to pay for free storage of shipments that are suspect.
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Post by kaiyo on Nov 9, 2019 15:13:29 GMT
Because i work for one of the biggest carrier companies and also have to deal with/reject prohibited goods, i can only guess - every carrier/airline has its own rules/restrictions and im not sure if people really read the restrictions completely.
For example DHL, weapons - swords are clearly prohibited worldwide and will not be transported. Will swords be rejected because of that ? - No, never noticed that. It also depends on the people, some persons are very strict and will reject almost everything. So dont be surprised if bs like that happens.
Rules for prohibited can also change more than once in a year and the customer needs to check everytime if something has changed.
But eventually every shipment that is transported means money, so its more likely to get a "ok"
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Post by Scott on Nov 10, 2019 1:34:14 GMT
Does the air carrier get any problems if a shipped sword stucks in customs after shipping? I doubt it, the air carrier has moved it from one place to another, after that it's not their problem. The other issue here is that if a shipment passes from one carrier to another then a different set of rules comes into play, so even checking that a particular carrier will ship something is not a guarantee.
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on Nov 14, 2019 7:18:56 GMT
The situation I've found here in Australia recently, is that every courier I've contacted now claims that Swords are not able to be handled (DHL using that term 'prohibited' - prohibited by them that is. Some staff (Toll) even checked it out before kneejerking NO, but to the same ends. This includes FedEx, TNT, DHL, TOLL, and whoever else I could find. I phoned UPS who's call centre is in the US (There is a UPS depot in my state), as you say they will handle them - from the US only. They will not however accept swords to ship from Australia. However Australia Post in all their documentation offers only guidelines for packaging sharp items. They can even move firearms. And states that you need to make sure your shipment be legal at your destination - they have a tool where you can search your destination country. Packaging and length requirements are the main considerations - they state length maximum at 105cm but I've often sent up to 115cm with no issue. Also they have an an upper limit of $5000 AUD extra cover (insurance). Also you need an Export Declaration clearance number from customs if it's worth more than $2000 AUD. So my option is only really Australia Post, not that I mind. I like to support the local family that runs the post office. and I've never had any issues shipping with them. I've found a logistics company that can offer insurance on shipments of any value. And they can get the Export Declaration Number when needed; which the Australian Border Force has made impossible for lay folk to acquire via their malfunctioning website. On the situation of shipping into Europe. I've lately shipped two swords to Switzerland (separately) via Australia Post, with no issue at EU customs. They simply need an invoice so they can charge their levies and they're cool. The issues are clearly further up the line with the carriers. Thanks Paul ( admin), lets hope you can find some reason in this - though we all know how these big companies have no accountability. I like your recent post about "Are Swords Weapons?"!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2019 8:05:30 GMT
DHL just shipped an automatic knife from China to the US, then transferred to and delivered to me by the USPS. The USPS tracking number was generated by the exporter and before even leaving China.
Go figure. Ordered on Oct 15th, left China ? entered the US on Nov 5th, arrived yesterday. The original projection by the seller was Nov 30.
Go figure.
Cheers GC
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Post by Dandelion on Dec 21, 2019 6:49:32 GMT
Little updates/info: sword ordered before our cats misery arrived in Frankfurt today coming from the USA via USPS. Started last saturday. The usual transfer time, labeled as a "replica sword" or so. Sold VA Bristol to USA went smooth but slow (usual thing with DHL) and arrived at december 11th (labeled as "replica sword" as well).
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Post by Lancelot Chan on Dec 21, 2019 11:09:05 GMT
Recently we in Hong Kong can't get any swords from China, and our latest 2 express parcels from USA through USPS have become super delayed. The first one arrived only after consistent pressure for them to find the parcel, after over 1 month time. The second one, still stuck at the same spot that the first one was stuck at and this time around no one bothers to find it.
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Post by Dandelion on Dec 23, 2019 8:50:00 GMT
Recently we in Hong Kong can't get any swords from China, and our latest 2 express parcels from USA through USPS have become super delayed. The first one arrived only after consistent pressure for them to find the parcel, after over 1 month time. The second one, still stuck at the same spot that the first one was stuck at and this time around no one bothers to find it. Just for common interest; this is from a email conversation with Ryansword some two weeks ago: "We can't ship swords to Germany now, shipping swords to most of European countries are frozen because Shanghai customs doesn't allow swords pass, maybe shipping can be resumed in February. We'll contact you when shipping is resumed." "No FedEx, no UPS?" "No FedEX, no UPS. Shanghai customs doesn't allow swords pass." :-(
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Post by Siward on Dec 23, 2019 9:27:02 GMT
Little updates/info: sword ordered before our cats misery arrived in Frankfurt today coming from the USA via USPS. Started last saturday. The usual transfer time, labeled as a "replica sword" or so. Sold VA Bristol to USA went smooth but slow (usual thing with DHL) and arrived at december 11th (labeled as "replica sword" as well). Ok, that’s good for Germany, though my recent arrivals from Lockwood and KOA were entirely the opposite experience, for the UK.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2019 10:10:15 GMT
Some recent Chinese goods have gone to the USA through Seoul via Korean Air and as USPS parcels.
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Post by Dandelion on Dec 23, 2019 12:38:27 GMT
Little updates/info: sword ordered before our cats misery arrived in Frankfurt today coming from the USA via USPS. Started last saturday. The usual transfer time, labeled as a "replica sword" or so. Sold VA Bristol to USA went smooth but slow (usual thing with DHL) and arrived at december 11th (labeled as "replica sword" as well). Ok, that’s good for Germany, though my recent arrivals from Lockwood and KOA were entirely the opposite experience, for the UK. Chaos. Pure chaos.
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Post by Lancelot Chan on Dec 23, 2019 14:22:42 GMT
Recently we in Hong Kong can't get any swords from China, and our latest 2 express parcels from USA through USPS have become super delayed. The first one arrived only after consistent pressure for them to find the parcel, after over 1 month time. The second one, still stuck at the same spot that the first one was stuck at and this time around no one bothers to find it. Just for common interest; this is from a email conversation with Ryansword some two weeks ago: "We can't ship swords to Germany now, shipping swords to most of European countries are frozen because Shanghai customs doesn't allow swords pass, maybe shipping can be resumed in February. We'll contact you when shipping is resumed." "No FedEx, no UPS?" "No FedEX, no UPS. Shanghai customs doesn't allow swords pass." :-( Thanks for letting me know it also affects EU. Kinda make me less lonely in such an ordeal, heh?
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Post by Dandelion on Dec 24, 2019 10:01:15 GMT
Just for common interest; this is from a email conversation with Ryansword some two weeks ago: "We can't ship swords to Germany now, shipping swords to most of European countries are frozen because Shanghai customs doesn't allow swords pass, maybe shipping can be resumed in February. We'll contact you when shipping is resumed." "No FedEx, no UPS?" "No FedEX, no UPS. Shanghai customs doesn't allow swords pass." :-( Thanks for letting me know it also affects EU. Kinda make me less lonely in such an ordeal, heh? Just got email from Ryansword: "Good news, just got notice that swords can be shipped to Germany now, we'll add Germany into the shipping list, so you can buy the sword on our website directly" *headscratch*
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Post by Lancelot Chan on Dec 31, 2019 13:44:39 GMT
Lost 2 longship swords to USPS. :(
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Post by Dandelion on Dec 31, 2019 13:47:15 GMT
Lost 2 longship swords to USPS. WHAT???
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Post by pellius on Jan 1, 2020 2:02:12 GMT
Lost 2 longship swords to USPS. Oh, man. That is horrible. Really really horrible. ☹️
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Post by stormmaster on Jan 1, 2020 8:47:51 GMT
Lost 2 longship swords to USPS. spread the word with some pics so if it ever pops up on ebay or something we can let u know
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