I think it looks pretty decent and not at a terrible price for Hanwei. But Like you said, why not have the scratch pattern "Rain" on the habaki? Also, why not a green Leather or Green suede leather for the ito?
They just never quite deliver as much as they should.
I have a love/hate relationship with Hanwei.
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Post by Cottontail Customs on Apr 20, 2019 15:54:34 GMT
Hanwei is known for their well rounded themes and complete koshirae, it's a good deal at that price imho. Thaisucki is known for being overpriced and I agree with that from what I've seen. in the end, you have to go with what you like best
Hey Zaba, I hear what you mean. I’ve done my research and I know it’s not the real deal nihonto, I just wanted a functional katana that was a step ahead of the usual entry level stuff, that’s why I was looking at the nobunaga. Why the kumiage you might ask? Well, first of all it’s silver and I really love silver/silver+gold on a katana, like the nobunaga has. I also liked the flower menuki on the Hanwei, so immediately the kumiage’s menuki was perfect. Again, I really liked the thick Tsuka and diamonds on the Hanwei and the kumiage does that same look perfectly, even better with the white same and silver fittings. Lastly, for the price the materials and workmanship are too good to pass up. hand crafted furniture, Silk ito, well fitted, silver fittings... for really only $350 more. Also I wanted a sageo that wasn’t tiny and cheap
I had been looking at the sword for a while, and this video which was uploaded two weeks ago sold it. I mean damn it’s a pretty nice looking sword. I also love that it’s not super outlandish or colorful, the black and silver theme is both simple and elegant at the same time.
edit: Forgot to mention I'm also a fan of square/squarish tsubas so what the hell this katana does everything right for my personal tastes
The koshirae looks pretty snazzy and the ito looks pretty well done too, nice and even. Although, not going to lie, that aesthetics of the blade don't do much for me, the polish just doesn't seem up to par for a $1,000 sword compared to what's seen elsewhere, remembering the likes of Kaneie, Bugei, Hanwei, perhaps Dynasty Forge as well in the same price point. Then again, many think Hanwei's polish is odd (I like the frost), so it's a personal preference.
That being said, the tsuka does just look great, the shape alone makes it worth swinging, and all the components look really nice. I really like the saya a lot, the extra thick lining in the koiguchi makes a heck of a lot of sense for a blade that's going to see lots of use, and a metal kojiri is always a welcome sight.
Getting back to the blade, while the polish and style may not be the most fancy or impressive, the fact it went through this with no rolling or chipping makes me happy, knowing from experience that Hanwei's blades would definitely chip on these sorts of impacts:
So it's a solidly done DH blade outfitted with nice koshirae, a nicely curved tsuka and a well done saya. Seems like a nice choice. Fancy folds don't make a sword perform any better after all
That would be interesting if prices go up when there's positive word of mouth...
I guess we need to be more pessimistic and snarky, eh?
But on a serious note, I am looking forward to reading your impressions. It does look like a nice sword that does quite a few things that other manufacturers don't, in a nice way. Also agree on the bo-hi termination before the habaki, one of my favorite features of sugata like kanmuri-otoshi or unokubi is how there's that nice angular geometric shift where the bo-hi begins...so easy on the eyes
Also what the heck guys this was in scratch and dent because of a couple tiny imperfections in the lacquer so it was a total steal imo you can’t even see them. It seems from my talkings with KOA that the other thaitsukis also have lacquer issues but nothing else wrong so keep that in mind if you want to pick one up... you just can’t have this one
i'm sorry mate but i think you just got had ..... there is a couple of things wrong with it based on the koshirae alone already. 1) the tsuka has no tapering from fuchi to kashira with no apparent shape. it looks to be that way because the size of the fuchi and kashira is almost or similarly sized. but they could of given it a haichi or rikko shaping to it but didn't. 2) the ito doesn't alternate between knots and it's bulky meaning someone didn't take the time to pre-stretch out the ito and it looks like there is no usage of hishi-gami resulting into uneven , inconsistent diamonds. you don't need hishi-gami for perfect diamons but it helps. 3) the transitions between the koi guchi and fuchi is way , way , way off. In other words , the fuchi is too small for the proportions of that sword. 4) your tsuba has a warp in it or maybe that's because of the light reflecting off the photo causing a distortion. 5) the nanako , or the dimples, on your fittings isn't hand punch but looks like it was casted.
you could've gotten a better sword for this price and i wouldn't trust whatever non-sense katana fan boy is spouting because he doesn't know his ass from the ground to begin with. You gotta be more careful about your source and who you listen to nowadays especially on the interwebs . Everyone is a self-proclaimed expert even if they just started. my word of advice to you is to get better educated ,do more research and find a credible , reliable source of information or someone that is experienced in the field.
Last Edit: May 18, 2019 16:34:08 GMT by shobutengu
That all sounds more down to your aesthetic personal preferences my man and that's totally fine. In my case, I really like the features like the thick tsuka or the large koiguchi transition; and the non-alternating wrap doesn't bother me, I like the way it looks.
Also inconsistent diamonds? You are really picky brother if that's inconsistent. Would you like to link a better use of the money so I have some more context?
Here's the lovely Paul Southren's review, should clear some things up.
edit: also there is no warp, you are seeing the artificial patina they put on the brass looking funky due to my camera flash.
you're crazy if you think that's a good deal on a "relatively" expensive blade. The lack of refinement and workmanship alone tells you that there is going to be a bigger problem underneath it all and that's without showing the sword already.
Sorry, but the Koshirae on that is appalling. I agree with the other members comment. I don't know how much you paid and/or what your intentions are with this but you could've bought yourself a decent quality Nihonto for around $1k.
Absolutely it's you're money and as long as you're happy that's what matters most. Other inexperienced new members may see this and think these swords are good quality for the money.Its the same disappointing stuff from them at high prices.The things Shobutengu mentioned arent aesthetic preferences,they are how it's done at a certain quality level and price.Hanwei isnt perfect but they get more of the details right and consistent.DF Bushi series as well,but I'm not sure how much they are now. But if you're happy that's cool
I disagree, maybe my pictures didn't do it the right justice but I and many others would disagree. If it's one thing I haven't seen either of you do - is link an actual production katana for $1350 to compare with so I have some context. Also, I do not want a beat up bare blade nihonto for 1k, a lot of you seem to not understand that not everyone has the same preferences or goals as you. I want to be capable to drop at least 10 grand on a sword before I go anywhere near nihonto territory, that's why it's productions for now. Apart from that - your critiques are quite unhelpful because neither of you have actually bolstered your point with an argument or some kind of comparison which is all we really have in this market is it not? Whether you like the koshirae or not, they are hand made brass adorned with 75% silver fittings such as the menuki, which is not pure silver because it would be too soft. I have been observing and soaking katana content for a year and a half now - hours upon hours of reading and weighing different opinions and reviews, and I really really like this sword. Imagine that?
you want a comparison? look at citadel , kurin , motohara , dynasty forge , and some high end hanwei.
In the end, if the buyer is happy with their purchase, it's their money and decision. I don't care how anyone spends their own money.
Posting this for new buyers that might see this thread that want the best quality/price ratio.
Matthew Jensen reviewed a few Thaitsuki kats on his YT channel. Not the model discussed in the thread. But, imo, he covers and explains characteristics and assessments of Japanese style swords better than other reviewers that have less experience.
One of the most important things a new buyer should try to do when researching a product, is to identify who provides objective, correct information and advice, based on experience with many different swords and makers. Matthew, Shobutengu, Maewyn, and Cottontail Customs know what they're talking about.
your critiques are quite unhelpful because neither of you have actually bolstered your point with an argument or some kind of comparison which is all we really have in this market is it not? Whether you like the koshirae or not, they are hand made brass adorned with 75% silver fittings such as the menuki, which is not pure silver because it would be too soft. I have been observing and soaking katana content for a year and a half now - hours upon hours of reading and weighing different opinions and reviews, and I really really like this sword. Imagine that?
I cannot comment on newer productions swords. All I have is a Paul Chen Practical Plus and Oriole. Those were dumb purchases from when I was young.
I thought this was about a discussion on this blade. You seem to be letting your emotions get in the way.
The other guy stated everything wrong about this. How are these critiques not helpful?
The Ito is really bulky and odd looking, It says it is Japanese silk but I have doubts. Japanese cotton looks nicer than that. The Ito is also not alternating, no hishi-gami, same' looks to be of low quality.
Tsuka looks like a solid block of wood.
Tosogu are most likely cast and of poorish quality(Just because they are silver doesn't mean they are good quality. I can glue pre-64 90% silver quarters all over my katana if I want. Won't make them look any better) Not sure how one can call them hand-made. Well, I guess someone had to solder the shishi to everything.
The Saya is horribly disproportioned to the fuchi/tsuka. What is going on there?
The habaki looks like it is mimicking a two-piece habaki, is it solid silver as well? I doubt it.
I can't comment on the blade but I hope it is much better quality than the Koshirae.
I personally would've picked a Paul Chen/Hanwei over this.
How are they just mine? Most of the people on here seem to be in agreement.
Pure silver? What are you talking about? If it's in regards to the habaki comment I am asking if the habaki is all silver(solid), not plated.I doubt it is silver foiled.
What are you talking about when you say glue? I said the ornaments on the Tsuba are Soldered on. You can see the discoloration around them. How is this "Forged"? Real Tsuba would have Inlaid shishi. The fittings are all cast, there's no way somebody sat there with a hammer and punch and formed these Menuki.
If you have held quality tosogu in your hands you would know what I am talking about.
I didn't know your intentions when you first bought this. If it was intended as a wall hanger or tameshigiri. I see you mentioned tameshigiri, but you bought this because it looked "nice" so after studying katana for over a year you bought it because it looked nice? Nothing to do with Blade length, Tsuka length, weight, balance?
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