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Post by slopez on Aug 11, 2018 2:21:38 GMT
I have seen many katana that have this, all antiques. I have always liked the aesthetic of it, nothing more than how it looks. Has anyone done this to a newer katana, custom? Do you think places like Huawei, sheng sword, jkoo, or Simon Lee would be able to do this? Without really looking into of it is complicated,it seems simple enough. Would it be maybe out of their knowledge/comfort zone to do it?
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Post by Verity on Aug 11, 2018 2:57:07 GMT
I have seen many katana that have this, all antiques. I have always liked the aesthetic of it, nothing more than how it looks. Has anyone done this to a newer katana, custom? Do you think places like Huawei, sheng sword, jkoo, or Simon Lee would be able to do this? Without really looking into of it is complicated,it seems simple enough. Would it be maybe out of their knowledge/comfort zone to do it? they could do it probably. I have actually been toying with the idea of doing this on a project. Red lacquer in the bohi....
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Post by treeslicer on Aug 11, 2018 3:22:22 GMT
I have seen many katana that have this, all antiques. I have always liked the aesthetic of it, nothing more than how it looks. Has anyone done this to a newer katana, custom? Do you think places like Huawei, sheng sword, jkoo, or Simon Lee would be able to do this? Without really looking into of it is complicated,it seems simple enough. Would it be maybe out of their knowledge/comfort zone to do it? You got a bottle of nail polish of the appropriate shade?
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Post by treeslicer on Aug 11, 2018 3:25:43 GMT
I have seen many katana that have this, all antiques. I have always liked the aesthetic of it, nothing more than how it looks. Has anyone done this to a newer katana, custom? Do you think places like Huawei, sheng sword, jkoo, or Simon Lee would be able to do this? Without really looking into of it is complicated,it seems simple enough. Would it be maybe out of their knowledge/comfort zone to do it? they could do it probably. I have actually been toying with the idea of doing this on a project. Red lacquer in the bohi.... It's supposedly a Shinto religious thing, symbolizing that a kami lives in the blade, and for some reason nobody seems to know, it's traditional on naginata and yari. Funny that it's blood red, rather than the vermillion shade used to paint temples.
IMHO, the religious reason is an excuse. Some general probably thought that his troopies' polearms looked cooler with red hi.
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Post by Verity on Aug 11, 2018 3:32:42 GMT
they could do it probably. I have actually been toying with the idea of doing this on a project. Red lacquer in the bohi.... It's supposedly a Shinto religious thing, symbolizing that a kami lives in the blade, and for some reason nobody seems to know, it's traditional on naginata and yari. Funny that it's blood red, rather than the vermillion shade used to paint temples.
IMHO, the religious reason is an excuse. Some general probably thought that his troopies' polearms looked cooler with red hi. ;)
i had read that some Togishi did it actually to cover up hataware in the Shinogi-ji. Yes very common on yari and naginata. Less so on katana and wakizashi but does turn up from time to time. Easy enough to do... thought about doing it on some projects
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Post by slopez on Aug 11, 2018 4:26:29 GMT
I'm with the general in thinking it looks great. Though I dont feel like it's something i want to do myself on my blade. Maybe try it out on one I dont mind messing up.
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Post by Jussi Ekholm on Aug 11, 2018 7:47:14 GMT
I tried it on a Bugei tachi.
I tried to scale the pics to 800x600 to save forum space so they are small.
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Post by slopez on Aug 11, 2018 21:34:59 GMT
Jussi, what did you end up using to color it in? Basic nail polish?
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Post by vermithrax on Aug 13, 2018 0:49:28 GMT
Umm, no.
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Post by pgandy on Aug 13, 2018 1:49:49 GMT
I tried it on a Bugei tachi.
I tried to scale the pics to 800x600 to save forum space so they are small.
Glad to see you doing that. I set my camera for email photos that work out to be 640x480 and find the photos sufficient for most purposes on the forum. Rarely, very rarely do they exceed 100KB, and can be as little as 46KB. That also helps me with storage on the HD if I decide to save them, as well as uploads are faster. Nice looking blade. You now have me considering doing the same. If I don’t like it I can wash it off.
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Post by Jussi Ekholm on Aug 15, 2018 11:03:14 GMT
I used some basic red paint that could be used on multiple purposes (at least wood, metal, plastic etc.). I can't remember exactly what were the specifics of the paint.
However I tried multiple times to paint both grooves but I couldn't get a finish that I was satisfied on the wider groove. So in the end I just left the narrow groove red.
It was more difficult than I thought in the beginning, maybe I had bit wrong equipment and low skill level but getting an even finish was really difficult.
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Post by Verity on Aug 15, 2018 13:12:32 GMT
I used some basic red paint that could be used on multiple purposes (at least wood, metal, plastic etc.). I can't remember exactly what were the specifics of the paint. However I tried multiple times to paint both grooves but I couldn't get a finish that I was satisfied on the wider groove. So in the end I just left the narrow groove red. It was more difficult than I thought in the beginning, maybe I had bit wrong equipment and low skill level but getting an even finish was really difficult. this is why lacquer was originally used. 😋 It can also be sanded and smoothed down. (Which I believe it was). Not to mention like anything nihonto, the lacquer guy probably had to apprentice for 20 years first 😂
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Post by treeslicer on Aug 15, 2018 14:54:23 GMT
The major barriers to using original methods on "lacquering" all revolve around the difficulties attached to urushi varnish, including getting the stuff to begin with, toxicity, and curing time. Urushi varnish, and its mostly indistinguishable chemical relative, Chinese cashew varnish, are urushiol-based oxidation-crosslinking varnishes, similar in some ways to oil varnishes, which also work by oxidizing, and have a prolonged curing time. Urushiol varnishes are solvent-resistant (some would say -proof) when fully cured, but toxic when wet, because they are made from the same agent found in poison ivy, and have nothing to do with shellac-based lacquers, which are alcohol-dissolved and made from insects. Urushiol varnishes are both expensive and hard to obtain in Western countries. Your local hardware store won't have them. I usually recommend the use of acrylic varnishes (such as nail polishes and common "spray-can" varnishes) in place of them, if something doesn't have to be resistant to organic solvents, and polyurethane if it does. Nitrocelluose varnishes (which have their own problems), are also acceptable as a substitute, if one has access to them. `
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Post by Adrian Jordan on Aug 17, 2018 19:10:21 GMT
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