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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Apr 24, 2018 18:36:24 GMT
Let me get myself in trouble here by asking why a revolver ? A semi auto can hold more rounds than a revolver, can be more compact for conceal carry and is quicker to reload. My S&W Shield 40s&w is compact enough where I can just put it in a pocket for easy carry. It holds 6 rounds in the short magazine and 7 in the two extended ones. That's a total of 20 rounds. This is my S&W next to my Sig P229 which was my conceal carry.
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Post by elbrittania39 on Apr 24, 2018 18:54:38 GMT
Let me get myself in trouble here by asking why a revolver ? A semi auto can hold more rounds than a revolver, can be more compact for conceal carry and is quicker to reload. My S&W Shield 40s&w is compact enough where I can just put it in a pocket for easy carry. It holds 6 rounds in the short magazine and 7 in the two extended ones. That's a total of 20 rounds. This is my S&W next to my Sig P229 which was my conceal carry. A fair question. The most honest answer? I just really really like revolvers lol. I guess they have a few advantages, less likely to fail, easier to clean, etc. But I fully realize a semi auto pistol is optimal in most situations.
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Post by William Swiger on Apr 24, 2018 19:04:18 GMT
I have a couple 357 Taurus models. Decent revolvers for the price. Can shoot 38 or 357. Just like swords, I ended up wanting better and moved up to some S&W models. Also have a few 44 Mag revolvers. I am older and more of a revolver guy. I do have a 9mm and 45 semi auto that are like the ones I had in the Army.
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Post by tonystark on Apr 24, 2018 19:29:39 GMT
Taurus?! Sure they’re cheap $$$ but there’s a BIG reason for that. Their quality control is horrendous, which is on par with what they call “customer service.” They have the worst track record of any revolver company I’ve heard of. You’re almost better off buying a Charter Arms revolver! (Actually Charter Arms might just be a better option than Taurus) Well no matter what you decide to buy, just make sure you get to physically hold, or even shoot it, before you take the plunge. If its a self defense gun then quality IS paramount over price!! Would you buy a mini-cooper, which has one of the worst crash test ratings of any small to mid-size car, if you lived in an area where a car accident was pretty much guaranteed to happen? Like a major city? The difference between a car and a gun is that even in towns with small populations, crime is ALWAYS present. If you have a wife and children wouldn’t you want the best possible method (or weapon) to defend them? Again, just food for thought.....but something you NEVER want to hear in a self-defense scenario is “Click!” 😉
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Post by howler on Apr 24, 2018 19:29:47 GMT
Hey elbrittania39, The S&W model 66 3" is about the perfect revolver size. Small enough for carry and still great at the range. Easy to use and reliable. Shoots .357 and .38. Or the S&W model 60 with the slightly smaller frame for .38 special only. The big downside is that they are kind of spendy for a first gun at around $750. Though if you got one you'd never actually need to upgrade to anything else. On the budget end, I would recommend the Taurus m85 with the stainless frame. Very reliable little snubbie which is easy to carry and I find still very easy to shoot. Chambered in .38 +P and very manageable at the range with regular .38 special loads. Comfortable grips from the factory, relatively small size overall, but still large enough to get a good grip on it. They also pretty regularly go on sale for around $200, which is tough to beat for such a good revolver. Solid, reliable, little starter gun. Thanks for the reccs. I like the look of the Taurus, especially for the price. Price is the biggest thing I'm debating on for my first gun. On one hand, I don't want to skimp and get something thats subpar since I want it for a practical application (self defense). On the other hand, I never really plan to use it, so if I go big and drop close to a grand on a weapon that never actually gets used as a weapon, then I'm kinda wasting my money. If it's on your hip or nightstand, it's being used . If I interpret your thinking, maybe you might be interested in something you can use for self defense and also shoot often at the range (so you will get fun and target shooting out of the deal). The trade off will probably be something a bit heavier and robust in order to shoot endless rounds and with less recoil. I might recommend the mindset of potentially owning a few, one for compact carry and one more capable for home defense, range plinking.
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Post by tonystark on Apr 24, 2018 19:32:49 GMT
howler- Great suggestion!
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Post by howler on Apr 24, 2018 19:40:19 GMT
Let me get myself in trouble here by asking why a revolver ? A semi auto can hold more rounds than a revolver, can be more compact for conceal carry and is quicker to reload. My S&W Shield 40s&w is compact enough where I can just put it in a pocket for easy carry. It holds 6 rounds in the short magazine and 7 in the two extended ones. That's a total of 20 rounds. This is my S&W next to my Sig P229 which was my conceal carry. The answer is BOTH, of course . The big advantage to a revolver is it's dead nuts simple. If it sits in a sock drawer for twenty years, you can pull it out and pull the trigger, and if the round is a dud...SIMPLY PULL THE TRIGGER AGAIN. No springs, magazine interface, slide. I've been thinking of a carry rig to slip on which holds a strong side and cross draw holster. This way, if my Glock jams I grab my Smith, or I can grab my Smith first then grab the Glock if I run dry. I should say that the carry rig is only placed on in order to get to my M1A, Colt AR, Semi or pump shotguns. Never take a handgun to a gunfight. Btw, I think I am insane.
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Post by howler on Apr 24, 2018 19:51:06 GMT
howler- Great suggestion! I should have said that, price wise, he might want to look into a gently used Smith or Ruger, and maybe have someone he knows that is "into" firearms and can tell a firearms condition. I heard Taurus has gotten better over the years and that some models are better than others.
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Post by tonystark on Apr 24, 2018 19:51:21 GMT
Let me get myself in trouble here by asking why a revolver ? A semi auto can hold more rounds than a revolver, can be more compact for conceal carry and is quicker to reload. My S&W Shield 40s&w is compact enough where I can just put it in a pocket for easy carry. It holds 6 rounds in the short magazine and 7 in the two extended ones. That's a total of 20 rounds. This is my S&W next to my Sig P229 which was my conceal carry. Cause semi-autos don’t look like this: lol I still love my semi-autos, but revolvers are just as awesome and effective in the right hands 😁
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Post by howler on Apr 24, 2018 20:06:31 GMT
Hey elbrittania39, The S&W model 66 3" is about the perfect revolver size. Small enough for carry and still great at the range. Easy to use and reliable. Shoots .357 and .38. Or the S&W model 60 with the slightly smaller frame for .38 special only. The big downside is that they are kind of spendy for a first gun at around $750. Though if you got one you'd never actually need to upgrade to anything else. On the budget end, I would recommend the Taurus m85 with the stainless frame. Very reliable little snubbie which is easy to carry and I find still very easy to shoot. Chambered in .38 +P and very manageable at the range with regular .38 special loads. Comfortable grips from the factory, relatively small size overall, but still large enough to get a good grip on it. They also pretty regularly go on sale for around $200, which is tough to beat for such a good revolver. Solid, reliable, little starter gun. Return of the K frame. Very similar to the Ruger SP101 3", but with a 2.75" barrel, around 7oz. heavier (better recoil control...but heftier), an extra round (6 instead of 5) but probably a tad wider at the cylinder. S&W L frame is a tad wider and heavier, but they do make some of those with 7 rounds. Notice what I call the "ratcheting effect" where there is always something with a little more of this or less of that, which makes decision making so maddening.
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Post by howler on Apr 24, 2018 20:11:00 GMT
Let me get myself in trouble here by asking why a revolver ? A semi auto can hold more rounds than a revolver, can be more compact for conceal carry and is quicker to reload. My S&W Shield 40s&w is compact enough where I can just put it in a pocket for easy carry. It holds 6 rounds in the short magazine and 7 in the two extended ones. That's a total of 20 rounds. This is my S&W next to my Sig P229 which was my conceal carry. Cause semi-autos don’t look like this: lol I still love my semi-autos, but revolvers are just as awesome and effective in the right hands 😁 And in SHTF scenario, when ammunition gets "iffy" you won't have to worry about any "rack and slide" drill while under fire...just pull the trigger again.
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Post by William Swiger on Apr 24, 2018 20:17:22 GMT
I have one Glock and it is a rattling piece of equipment......lol Not saying a Glock is bad but just not as solid as I like. Going to put it on commission with the 2 Taurus ones I have at the FFL.
Put my 2-AK's on commission last week. Will just keep the AR ones.
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Post by howler on Apr 24, 2018 20:26:10 GMT
I have one Glock and it is a rattling piece of equipment......lol Not saying a Glock is bad but just not as solid as I like. Going to put it on commission with the 2 Taurus ones I have at the FFL.
Put my 2-AK's on commission last week. Will just keep the AR ones. I'll say this for Glock, they really do go bang when you pull that trigger, and they are tougher in the field than any revolver. Minus the "rack and slide" drill on a dummy round (the biggest advantage for a revolver), I'd probably have that thing on my side while in the SHTF wastelands.
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Post by William Swiger on Apr 24, 2018 20:39:31 GMT
I have one Glock and it is a rattling piece of equipment......lol Not saying a Glock is bad but just not as solid as I like. Going to put it on commission with the 2 Taurus ones I have at the FFL.
Put my 2-AK's on commission last week. Will just keep the AR ones. I'll say this for Glock, they really do go bang when you pull that trigger, and they are tougher in the field than any revolver. Minus the "rack and slide" drill on a dummy round (the biggest advantage for a revolver), I'd probably have that thing on my side while in the SHTF wastelands. Debating on the Glock. .45ACP
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Post by tonystark on Apr 24, 2018 20:41:09 GMT
howler- as a fan of both I can unbiasedly say that revolvers aren’t totally infallible, BUT their track record does say a lot for them. The semi-autos I do own I have researched the crap out of before I bought them.
William- I’m waiting on my CZ P10c, but there are some newer striker fired guns much better than Glock! On the revolver side there are some great new releases as well. Ruger Super Redhawk’s comes in the 10mm flavor now. *sigh* There’s ALWAYS new stuff to spend money on! lol
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Post by rjodorizzi on Apr 24, 2018 20:42:28 GMT
Glocks are fine but they are boring to own. It's the reason I've owned a bunch of 9mm and always find myself bored of the cartridge and the gun. I like steel in my hand and a big boom.
+1 to Howler for planning to own more than one. I choose not to carry, although I did buy a gun I COULD carry (kimber 1911 TLE RL II 4", I told you I love steel :-) ) but I also own the big ol' revolver.
I'd also recommend, not for your initial, but eventually looking at picking up cheap .22 LR. I've got a nifty looking buckmark and a 10/22 in a full stock. Everyone should own at least one .22 LR, they are cheap and can be shot at the range all day. If you want to get down to brass tacks I'd tack thousands of rounds of .22 and a 10/22 that doesn't fail over any other gun I own.
If you move away from carry (I still recommend the sp101 if you are set on carry) and just like a wheelgun, I also can't recommend the GP100 or the Vaquero (single action) for a first one. They are a blast (hah!) to own and will last through just about anything you throw through it.
The biggest line, regardless of what you buy, practice practice practice.
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Post by howler on Apr 24, 2018 20:56:55 GMT
Glocks are fine but they are boring to own. It's the reason I've owned a bunch of 9mm and always find myself bored of the cartridge and the gun. I like steel in my hand and a big boom. +1 to Howler for planning to own more than one. I choose not to carry, although I did buy a gun I COULD carry (kimber 1911 TLE RL II 4", I told you I love steel :-) ) but I also own the big ol' revolver. I'd also recommend, not for your initial, but eventually looking at picking up cheap .22 LR. I've got a nifty looking buckmark and a 10/22 in a full stock. Everyone should own at least one .22 LR, they are cheap and can be shot at the range all day. If you want to get down to brass tacks I'd tack thousands of rounds of .22 and a 10/22 that doesn't fail over any other gun I own. If you move away from carry (I still recommend the sp101 if you are set on carry) and just like a wheelgun, I also can't recommend the GP100 or the Vaquero (single action) for a first one. They are a blast (hah!) to own and will last through just about anything you throw through it. The biggest line, regardless of what you buy, practice practice practice. Browning Buckmark is great, and a .22 a MUST for practice and beginner considerations. Low recoil and less expensive ammo price are essential for someone starting out. If you buy an expensive lightweight magnum, you will shoot it a couple times then put it in the safe/sock drawer where it will reside FOREVER!
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Post by howler on Apr 24, 2018 21:01:18 GMT
howler- as a fan of both I can unbiasedly say that revolvers aren’t totally infallible, BUT their track record does say a lot for them. The semi-autos I do own I have researched the crap out of before I bought them. William- I’m waiting on my CZ P10c, but there are some newer striker fired guns much better than Glock! On the revolver side there are some great new releases as well. Ruger Super Redhawk’s comes in the 10mm flavor now. *sigh* There’s ALWAYS new stuff to spend money on! lol Revolver in horrible battlefield conditions can certainly jam with sand, mud, etc...(though some semi can handle a bit better), but sand, mud, etc...is pretty nasty for all guns, so consider holster, cleaning, keeping weapons out of such conditions as best you can.
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Post by tonystark on Apr 24, 2018 21:38:23 GMT
howler- as a fan of both I can unbiasedly say that revolvers aren’t totally infallible, BUT their track record does say a lot for them. The semi-autos I do own I have researched the crap out of before I bought them. William- I’m waiting on my CZ P10c, but there are some newer striker fired guns much better than Glock! On the revolver side there are some great new releases as well. Ruger Super Redhawk’s comes in the 10mm flavor now. *sigh* There’s ALWAYS new stuff to spend money on! lol Revolver in horrible battlefield conditions can certainly jam with sand, mud, etc...(though some semi can handle a bit better), but sand, mud, etc...is pretty nasty for all guns, so consider holster, cleaning, keeping weapons out of such conditions as best you can. howler- actually the revolver issues weren’t even related to dirt, sand, mud......etc. This video shows a Ruger (believe it or not!) that just stopped working! It happens....... I’m wicked obsessed with cleaning my firearms after trips to the range, so cleanliness wouldn’t be an issue for my handguns.
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Post by rjodorizzi on Apr 24, 2018 21:40:14 GMT
Love the buckmark, I have one that makes me feel like a space cowboy :-P
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