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Post by stormmaster on Apr 21, 2018 10:40:04 GMT
Yeah kinda looks like a chicken tbh. But still I want it, like an upgraded eagle head spadroon with Chinese influence. Not gonna shell out more than 500 though, might as well buy an antique after that. while i wait for a response to me asking for a refund i see that the spring collection has launched with that eagle head jian you liked, and its on introductory price of $559, and theres a few other pieces that are also not that expensive like the peony jian that is only $439 that interests me, too bad im done with this whole line in general
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Post by kaiyo on Apr 21, 2018 16:10:03 GMT
pretty sad that you did not get what you have ordered, i would also not call it a defect but its simply not what they have advertised and yes even a different color on the pommel makes a difference, still i would like to know what you have to say about the blade...
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Post by stormmaster on Apr 21, 2018 17:42:22 GMT
Blade looks ok from the small bit I unsheathed before putting in back in, still no response to my email asking for a refund yet but I know they saw my request since they merged my request that I did as a reply to my previous emails asking for an update and my new request I did Thursday night together
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2018 4:27:20 GMT
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Post by stormmaster on Apr 22, 2018 5:33:18 GMT
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Post by Jordan Williams on Apr 22, 2018 6:06:01 GMT
560 and looks more like a chicken now. Gonna have to look around for antiques until I remember I invariably sell all the spadroons I get anyways lol.
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Post by tancred on Apr 22, 2018 6:21:37 GMT
Yeah kinda looks like a chicken tbh. But still I want it, like an upgraded eagle head spadroon with Chinese influence. Not gonna shell out more than 500 though, might as well buy an antique after that. www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=SH2354&name=Hanwei+ScimitarNot as ornate, but this Hanwei Scimitar totally looks like a chicken to me. A primitive chicken. I completely respect the sword makers here. Tons of talent. But those two swords make me laugh, too, but not in a great way. They look too goofy for me to want to own.
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Post by Jordan Williams on Apr 22, 2018 6:27:36 GMT
Yeah kinda looks like a chicken tbh. But still I want it, like an upgraded eagle head spadroon with Chinese influence. Not gonna shell out more than 500 though, might as well buy an antique after that. www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=SH2354&name=Hanwei+ScimitarNot as ornate, but this Hanwei Scimitar totally looks like a chicken to me. A primitive chicken. I completely respect the sword makers here. Tons of talent. But those two swords make me laugh, too, but not in a great way. They look too goofy for me to want to own. Kinda like that dove that always gets drawn. Yeah, no disrespect at all to the smiths, but chickens are just funny to me. Little waddling clucks.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2018 7:12:32 GMT
I can appreciate some of the art but generally turned off by the faux nature of the fittings and the general fantasy realm of swords being offered. The eagle, for instance, an entirely fantasy inspired sword. There is nothing wrong with that but look at the ad copy presentation. The actual specifications list a 28" blade and a total weight, while probably suited to cutting, how many will actually be anything but displayed. The art of the ad copy show a figure in the fantasy world along with the sword. Little people, it appears. Again, nothing really wrong with that. I bought my first fantasy sword a few years ago, as Windlass was discontinuing the Sleepy Hollow sword (and will probably still buy an axe at some point). The swords of this series are comparable in cost (but more expensive) to some other folded steel swords out of China and India. The funky chicken sword is also supposedly fitted with a guard found on Oakeshott type XI swords. Really? Nobody wants to think of their baby as ugly and the market is wide open to those swords such as these appeal to. With a back story, and swords appealing with some forumites, the precept is to somehow out Tolkien, Tolkien. If they can publish that entire back story and find the demand to go as far as videos (animation, whatever), the entire effort might reap success in the next decades, perhaps as much so as other fantasy story lines. $400-$600 though? You know where my interests lie. Compare , traditional fittings by such as Tony Mosen www.google.com/search?q=Tony+Mosen%E2%80%99s+Custom+Chinese+Jian+Fittings&rlz=1CAASUB_enUS789US789&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjZ4dm2qM3aAhUCVt8KHYXPCtUQ_AUICigB&biw=1024&bih=483Sure, not half a grand "production" level but you get the idea what I am regarding about the offered swords and their castings. Kind of what I would expect from Marto, et al, which aren't cheap either....but. Built and sold as cutters, I hope they serve the customers well. Even if decorators as enthusiasts. I have dozens of period decorators
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Post by stormmaster on Apr 22, 2018 8:36:54 GMT
i personally think the eagle pommel jian looks janky, like the pommel is so large and yet the guard seems minuscule compared to it, just does not fit imo, now the peony jian on the other hand looks like a good deal for $440 if its well made
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2018 9:28:21 GMT
My 1790ish Thurkle My 1800ish Bolton My Dyer type, same period Those just a fraction of my period decorators and a few sharp cutters. All at much the same pricing at times. I have only one sword that went past a grand and most in the $500 range. Again, it all gets a bit subjective. The solid castings of these reproduction jian and dao swords is not how they were originally made of sheet and pieced together. That is why a three pound sword should really weigh less than two pounds. Sure, the artistry displayed (in a general sense) can be appealing. My razor blade Osborn type eagle, cost $350. More than 200 years old. If one hunts about a bit, there are period Chinese swords out there, for less than one might think. So, it really boils down to expectations and use.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2018 9:40:59 GMT
Oh, meant to add that since you have an example of their work in hand, you can more or less judge how well they are made (including oopsies already noted). Give them a chance again? I suppose, if the interest is there. Happy hunting!
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Post by stormmaster on Apr 22, 2018 9:50:46 GMT
Oh, meant to add that since you have an example of their work in hand, you can more or less judge how well they are made (including oopsies already noted). Give them a chance again? I suppose, if the interest is there. Happy hunting! i really want to give them a 2nd chance because that peony jian is a helluva bargain at $440, but my better judgement saids I shouldnt, they didnt just give me a completely different sword but the one they gave me was inferior by far to the advertised piece, the pommel was not even remotely close and the black gunk all around the ferrules and pommel just makes me think of a lack of care and they just tried to do that to cover up an unfinished piece, hoping I wouldnt notice, maybe if my refund goes well I could think about it in the future a bit far from now, but as of now i would only get 2nd hand and ask for a crap ton of actual pics of the sword
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Post by pellius on Apr 23, 2018 17:29:39 GMT
Just mtc...
With all due respect, I would expect a pretty decent product in this price range, and to be given the item I bargained for in any price range.
Based solely on the information presented here, there is no way I would send more money to these same folks.
If they make it 100% right (by your judgment), then maybe that is something on which to build a future business relationship. Otherwise, I would start shopping other options.
That's just me, though.
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Post by stormmaster on Apr 24, 2018 4:25:16 GMT
finally got a response saying to ship my item back to them for refund but was not given a shipping label, i seriously hope that they refund me for the entire cost of the sword plus the shipping it will cost to get it shipped back to them -_-
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Post by zabazagobo on Apr 24, 2018 4:47:33 GMT
finally got a response saying to ship my item back to them for refund but was not given a shipping label, i seriously hope that they refund me for the entire cost of the sword plus the shipping it will cost to get it shipped back to them -_- To China? If so, might want to make sure it's properly insured as much as possible considering what Robert's sinosword return derailed into.
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Post by stormmaster on Apr 24, 2018 4:50:56 GMT
finally got a response saying to ship my item back to them for refund but was not given a shipping label, i seriously hope that they refund me for the entire cost of the sword plus the shipping it will cost to get it shipped back to them -_- To China? If so, might want to make sure it's properly insured as much as possible considering what Robert's sinosword return derailed into. no its getting sent to texas, probably a sbg warehouse, thank god, im asking paul for a prepaid shipping label, i really really really dont want to pay for the shipping even if they will refund me it after it arrives, gonna wait till tomorrow to see if he will give me the label
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Post by stormmaster on Apr 24, 2018 4:53:43 GMT
i am really hoping paul gets back to me tomorrow morning with the label, i want this thing gone from my life asap
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Post by zabazagobo on Apr 24, 2018 5:04:13 GMT
Phew, that's a relief at least. No purgator- I mean Shanghai customs, for it.
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Post by stormmaster on Apr 24, 2018 5:15:42 GMT
Phew, that's a relief at least. No purgator- I mean Shanghai customs, for it. Yeah if I had to send it to China I might as well ask them to send me something to cover my refund, I want a prepaid shipping label tho, I am out of goodwill to give so I'm pretty adamant I don't spend another dime on this thing
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