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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2008 1:25:34 GMT
Sorry, not smart enough to embed video, but check out Menukisan's First Time on youtube. I want to thank all you guys for your answers to my dumb questions, and as part of the community I made the vid. It's my first time ever attempting to cut anything. No formal training but I do alot of research. Excuse the bad posture, many years of humping a ruck and I also broke my hip some years ago parachuting. Extensive MA background but no weapons. In advance thanks for your comments.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2008 2:20:36 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2008 4:03:08 GMT
if thats your first ever attempt, i think it was brilliant. From your comments & injuries you already know what posture you need to work towards so you'll only get even better with time & practice. As you improve even further you'll find you need to use less power as your Technique will allow the blade to do the cutting for you.
Once again great job, practice safe & take care.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2008 4:13:52 GMT
I have a little problem with the power. In my head, I'm thinking power and speed are the same, when they aren't. I guess practice and PROPER instruction, (if I ever find it) will teach me the difference. I cut like I throw punches, through the target!! Thank you.
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Jun 14, 2008 4:17:54 GMT
nice cutting. I am concerned about what looks like a pipe at the center of your stand. while you were highly accurate you also cut very fast and hard. I would hate to think what might happen if you accidentally clipped that pipe. unless that's a PVC pipe I think you should change it. maybe even then PVC isn't exactly styrofoam. . . what sword are you using? any way very impressive first cuts. I can tell you have some experience handling a sword (even if you haven't cut before) you were very confident and I love your chiburi. you have obviously seen a lot of formal cutting (if not practiced the moves, Iato maybe?) and have emulated it well. ummm yeah looked freaking cool! bring us more cutting vids please! Karma to you (when I recharge)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2008 6:16:10 GMT
thanks alot ian. everything I learned I picked up from studying three books that I bought at Barnes & Noble. If anyone wants to know which ones, I'll tell you. I have a bokken that I practice moving with first. Then I go to a live blade. I have a PK XL, a cheap Musashi, and my fav, the Shura Ko Kat. I used all three for the vid and I use all three when I practice to have the feel of different weights. But I really love the Ko kat because it's so nimble and I think it really suits me. That is a PVC pipe sticking up, I'll see what I can do about that. But even though I have no formal training, I try to feel the essence of the sword. From what I understand, the first one cut usually didn't make it. And from all the martial art training I've done, it was always drilled into you to throw everything like it was you r last. I take that to heart and want my first contact, if it's my elbow, knee or bokken, to be decisive. But the more I analyze my cuts, it just looks like I'm trying to muscle it, and I'm really not. Thanks for the input, I'm open to all.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2008 9:21:47 GMT
Menuki: Nice cutting mate, very well done. Be very careful the way you draw your katana, you aren't do it properly or the katana is too long for you. You need to learn to stop the cut after the target. You also need to learn to be lighter with the blade as you are overpowering it far to much, learn to use the muscle you have to fluidly and decisively handle your katana. Last of all, please, please be so very careful when performing sheathing. You are not looking at the blade and since you have expressly said that you have no training, you should really get the technique right before you start trying to perform it "blind."
I hope this helps and I look forward to seeing more.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2008 12:58:04 GMT
I agree, the XL is a bit long for me to use, that's why I prefer the ko katana. I thought that not looking at the blade was part of returning the sword to the saya?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2008 13:37:15 GMT
Menuki: When you get to that level, it is a very hard thing to do blind and without training it can lead to accidents. When I was being taught to do it I was doing it with a bokken and still looking at the bokken, it took me a long time before I progressed to even blind sheating an iaito. Of course it is your training and your safety mate, so you do what you feel you are able to do.
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Jun 15, 2008 4:24:03 GMT
yeah but remember that guy on SFI who stuck his sword all the way through his arm, in by the wrist and out by the elbow on the other side. He was doing resheathing and I believe he was doing it blind. we do NOT want a story like that with one or our guys. or anyone really but especially not one of ours
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2008 4:31:48 GMT
Ian: Yeah, he was untrained and he was doing it blind and that was an iaito if I remember correctly. It took me four years to get to a skill level where I could resheath blind with an iaito, let alone a shinken.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2008 8:15:45 GMT
I'm one of "yours" ? Thanks, guys, I didn't think anyone cared about me!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2008 8:35:45 GMT
Menuki: My opinion is that anyone who joins this forum and makes themselves a useful member is one of ours and deserves just as much respect as someone who has been here longer. Old or new everyone on this forum is equal in my view.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2008 15:58:20 GMT
Definately one of ours! You had the guts to post your first cutting session +1 I am impressed, very nice job. Although, I do agree with Ian about your stand, please be careful around pipes and concrete. DJMahoney
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2008 21:57:31 GMT
Just the fact that you de-blood the blade after the cut tells a lot about your study. You have done well.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2008 1:14:55 GMT
Menuki: Make yourself drop stand mate, they are the best kind of stand for this kind of thing.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2008 2:21:03 GMT
What is that and where can I find one? I'm going to tailor my practice in the next couple of weeks based on the comments that I received here. That will give me some time to order some new mats to cut. I'm really going to work on a more fluid motion and less strength. I really think that videotaping yourself is a great tool for improving yourself, even if you only review it yourself.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2008 3:26:18 GMT
This is a little hard to explain but it is a concept that I came up with a while ago. Take a length of two by four or something with a reasonable surface area when the wood is stood on its end, cut the wood into three pieces. On the bottom piece bolt on four pieces of wood and then bolt on a flat stand piece of wood to the bottom of the four pieces of wood. Then the stand stacks up like blocks, if you accidentally bugger the cut and hit the stand it will fall into pieces rather than damaging your blade. I will do a mock up in paint to give you a better idea cause my explanation looks like arse even to me. Ok here is the mock up; the two lines on the main drawing are where you cut the stand, the other drawing is an idea of how to bolt the "legs" onto the main cutting stand, then you just take a sheet of MDF or something and bolt it to the bottom of the legs. Viola! Drop stand
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Post by YlliwCir on Jun 16, 2008 6:33:51 GMT
Great video, Menukisan! +1 Very intense.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2008 10:33:39 GMT
Cool cutting. Are you using those beach mats from swordsofmight?
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