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Post by Bryan Heff on Sept 7, 2017 19:41:08 GMT
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Post by stormmaster on Sept 7, 2017 20:41:03 GMT
Great review, I would love to see a wire grip, only thing that turned me off from this sword was the boring brown grip
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Post by nddave on Sept 7, 2017 21:32:40 GMT
Awesome review, glad it turned out to be a good new sword. The only thing concerning I'd say is the leather spacer above the guard. Is it removable? If not it brings fears that it is similarly built like the Hanwei William Marshall were the leather spacer is actually used to hold the guard in place. I didn't notice the leather at first in the KoA pics but now I do.
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Post by William Swiger on Sept 7, 2017 21:53:59 GMT
Nice review Bryan. Mine arrives tomorrow. The slender grip is like their Tinker line of swords. I had some back in the day (still have the Viking) and just did a cord and leather on top of the existing grip. On one, I just wet it down and gave it an imprint. Cool to see it compared with the Gaddhjalt which is one of my favorite swords.
The finish Hanwei uses is pretty workman style. I sort of like them as most of my swords are very bright.
I also don't think I have ever received a backyard sharp medieval from Hanwei. They are sword sharp but not as sharp as some other makers. |
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Post by William Swiger on Sept 8, 2017 20:35:40 GMT
Received mine today and very disappointed. The little strip to keep the blade protected on the guard was loose. It pulled off very easily and this is what I found.
It is not a tough piece like the William Marshall that you can tell belongs on the sword but thin and on mine falling off. So, I am going to have to find a way to get rid of it. Could dig around and find some leather strips to glue in there. At this point more inclined to toss it.
Bottom line is I do not recommend this sword. How hard is it to just mate the blade to the guard? Too bad as all my other ones are really good.
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Post by stormmaster on Sept 8, 2017 20:37:20 GMT
Received mine today and very disappointed. The little strip to keep the blade protected on the guard was loose. It pulled off very easily and this is what I found.
It is not a tough piece like the William Marshall that you can tell belongs on the sword but thin and on mine falling off. So, I am going to have to find a way to get rid of it. Could dig around and find some leather strips to glue in there. At this point more inclined to toss it.
Bottom line is I do not recommend this sword. How hard is it to just mate the blade to the guard? Might be the last Hanwei I buy. Too bad as all my other ones are really good.
thats a shame, maybe its just a bad apple and they will send u a better one if u return? |
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Post by Adrian Jordan on Sept 8, 2017 20:37:41 GMT
Dang, man. I'm sorry to see that. Can you order a replacement?
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Post by Bryan Heff on Sept 8, 2017 20:59:54 GMT
Pulled my bit off leather off also after reading what Bill found, I have the exact same shoddy crap. Weak. No excuse for that. I will need to update my review. That right there is the definition of cutting corners. Thought I had a winner here.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 21:04:19 GMT
I just asked about that. Man, what a downer! Sorry to hear that.
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Post by William Swiger on Sept 8, 2017 21:09:31 GMT
Dang, man. I'm sorry to see that. Can you order a replacement?
Would make no difference as they all will have this error........
I could live with it if it was a stiff and firm insert like the William Marshall Sword. This one is more like the cheaper ones you find on reproduction sabers.
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Post by William Swiger on Sept 8, 2017 21:11:31 GMT
I have had older ATRIM swords like that but at least the blade shoulders touched the guard....I can also now slightly wiggle the guard on the sword.
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Post by Bryan Heff on Sept 8, 2017 21:19:58 GMT
I have had older ATRIM swords like that but at least the blade shoulders touched the guard....I can also now slightly wiggle the guard on the sword. It's weak. It's like a bad Carpenter hiding all the gaps with caulk or wood putty. I mean it's Like a purposeful deceit. Little piece of leather.... Awful. Very disappointed. I'll probably break it down at some point and fix it but after spending 300 some odd dollars I really shouldn't have to do that |
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Post by Aikidoka on Sept 8, 2017 22:38:08 GMT
I have had older ATRIM swords like that but at least the blade shoulders touched the guard.... I can also now slightly wiggle the guard on the sword.Wow, that is disappointing! With that construction, after any normal amount of use (cutting), the guard would have become loose after a while even if you hadn't removed the leather piece. |
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Post by William Swiger on Sept 8, 2017 23:35:36 GMT
The quick fix I did was to put metal shims tightly between the blade shoulders and guard. After that, Used some nice and thicker leather strip wrap to go around the base in a rectangle. Just super-glued it on.
Still think I will put it out in the garbage but at least it is functional. Seriously not even sure you can put a sword in the garbage here........Might have to give it to a co-worker who does not know anything about swords but likes them......
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Post by mrbadexample on Sept 9, 2017 0:34:23 GMT
Wow. Disappointing for sure.
Seems like grinding off the peen to remove the pommel, grip core and guard might be an option. Some fine file work on the guard slot and careful dremel work to form an inlet for the shoulders...
It would be a chore, but a fun one. I'd certainly not buy one to keep in stock form based on this, but there is potential here as a project blade.
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Post by nddave on Sept 9, 2017 1:08:25 GMT
Sorry if I jinxed the review.... I just was instantly reminded of the William Marshall thread when you mention the leather spacer. You know you'd think with both the H/T line and even the CASIBERA line having compression fits you wouldn't see this on other Hanwei European Swords. I guess you don't and its an exclusive flaw to only the William Marshall and Saint Maurice. Seems an odd short cut for such a nice looking sword especially since it's peened. It just makes no sense.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Sept 9, 2017 3:09:08 GMT
Oh shoes and pisseroni, the St Maurice oncst agin brings out the worst in underclass sword producers. Under washers are seen a lot in certain 19th Century sword brands. It does cover up a design short coming, and shimming works. Never seen a shim on a medi before.
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Post by christain on Sept 9, 2017 17:09:25 GMT
I was wondering about that little leather bit when I first saw the sword on KOA. I see now my worries are confirmed. Until Hanwei rethinks that little flaw in the slaw, I will definitely pass. That's just out of character for them. The fit on all of my other Hanwei's is near perfect. I just can't believe it.  .........Chris |
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Post by Luka on Sept 9, 2017 18:41:15 GMT
I think this should be easy to fix. If they didn't use epoxy, I think it shouldn't be hard to tap the guard with a hammer down to the shoulders, then the grip and pommel, maybe cut of the current peen and repeen it when all is in its proper place. But yes, it is a sempriniesque move by Hanwei.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2017 17:20:11 GMT
The old Godfred swords have a brass shim and threaded nut, while being quite glued. I am surprised Hanwei did this but equally surprised they are then being messed with. Bonking with a wood block to then hammer on will raise the tang for dressing and repeening. Both felt and leather were used extensively during the 18th and 19th century with good results. In visually reviewing many thousands of period swords, the slipped on washers grew more common in the 19th century. The compressed washers not a matter of shoddy work, simply how it was being done. Truly, they were meant to be a weather seal and were supposed to be oiled or greased. Compressed assemblies themselves could be called shoddy work but the fact is they have been around a long time and under the shoulders washers anything but uncommon, even on fancy swords during the late modern era. I like the bodacious butt and enjoy these vicarious trysts.  |
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