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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2008 18:30:00 GMT
oh man thats gotta hurt ive messed myself up before but not that bad(ive had my fingers almost taken off quite a few times) but its a good reminder that swords are not just toys that we swing around and cut stuff up with but that they are weapons designed to wound and or kill another person
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Jun 9, 2008 3:35:19 GMT
well I think this thread could be a good reference for all the threads I've seen asking if a sword was really an effective weapon. even though I have something like 17 years of training and practice in sword skills I have only recently started cutting with live steel. I tell you all, I have a whole new respect for swords melee weapons in general. just drives home the fact that these ARE weapons.
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Post by salvatore on Jun 9, 2008 6:04:05 GMT
I feel bad for the guy, and trust me, I KNOW. God, my injury was bad, and I only had like 34 stiches, jeez! He certainly topped my record. Hope ya get well soon, and I think we'll both learn from the mis-cuts we've made.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2008 6:39:13 GMT
Best wishes and a speedy recovery to the individual in the picture. The photo of the injury actually made me squeamish enough to wince. Just looking at the picture hurt. Thank you for the reminder.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2008 15:11:35 GMT
In re safety tips:
I deliberately practice swordplay away from anyone. My reason is I don't want anyone near me should I lose my grip on the sword. I live in southern Louisiana. It is very hot and humid here. I sweat like a horse. I'm not talking about a drop or two on the forehead. I mean it's streams of sweat sheeting down my forehead and running down my arms. My shirt is sopping wet. I look as if I've been swimming. I take pains to keep my grip as dry and secure as I can, but I don't want to chance the sword flying out of my hands and impaling my wife or one of my kids. I have lost my grip once or twice in the years I've been doing this. Fortunatley no one was around at the time. When I practice I'm about a hundred yards from the house.
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Post by septofclansinclair on Jun 9, 2008 16:46:38 GMT
Whoa... Ignited and I had a bit of a cutting party on Saturday, with fortunately no mishaps - makes me thankful we've been lucky and careful. Chopping wood at the lake a few weeks ago I would have hit my own leg on a glancing blow if I hadn't been standing correctly. Scary stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2008 16:50:49 GMT
OMG , I have seen other pics on the web and they always really emphasize the message that swords are not toys. These pics should be requisite veiwing in the Northern Hemisphere this time of year. Paul, a speedy recovery to your friend and thank your friend for being an example. He could be saving someone's life DJMahoney
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on Jun 9, 2008 16:56:21 GMT
Along the lines of Sal's injury. I bought some gloves today ($18) from a safety gear shop which are more cut resistant than kevlar (which they had for ($9), they have a grippy rubber surface, and have a snug stretchy fabric feel. I haven't cut with them yet, but will always wear them now when sharpening or cutting with guardless blades.
I've had so many slices over the last 2 months it's really bugging me, and my last one with a circular saw really shook me up.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2008 17:21:55 GMT
Brenno, did you them online? Can you post the link or more info? Thanks
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2008 18:25:34 GMT
Yep, this is a big heads up!
Every other month I make a mistake in my kali class - usually hitting my left knee with my right hand lead stick. If it's a good thwack, it can hurt quite a bit and yeah, that's just a stick...
Often, I have wondered to myself: "Damn, what if that had been a sword??"
This picture makes me want to keep that question unanswered...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2008 19:17:20 GMT
Yep, this is a big heads up! Every other month I make a mistake in my kali class - usually hitting my left knee with my right hand lead stick. If it's a good thwack, it can hurt quite a bit and yeah, that's just a stick... Often, I have wondered to myself: "Damn, what if that had been a sword??" This picture makes me want to keep that question unanswered... Try swinging the leg out of the way in sync with the downward swing. You will need to balance on the supporting foot. This is a common technique used in Kalis Illustrisimo.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2008 20:17:10 GMT
This is he, the dope whose leg is pictured. I see the vascular surgeon that 'fixed' two veins and did the sweet repair job tomorow a.m. I'll be sure to get a proper stitch-count and blood loss/transfusion total for everyone. My thanks for what goodwill is out there for me. Gotta go, pain med's calling... hct
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Post by swordboy bringer of chaos on Jun 9, 2008 20:22:02 GMT
I'm glad to see that you are well(ish) and recovering hope you heal up ...... and mind your follow through ;D joking joking
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Post by YlliwCir on Jun 9, 2008 20:35:44 GMT
Hello, Tom. Welcome to the forum. Thanks for the safety lesson, tho I'm sorry to you had that nasty accident. It could easily happen to me, especially if you see my early vids. I will definitely be more careful and I'll keep a good thought for you healing.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2008 20:47:47 GMT
"HalfcalfTom" - that's a riot man. If there's one thing I respect, it's a man who's not afraid to poke fun at himself. Good on ya. Keep pounding those meds, put your feet up and chill. Oh yeah, I think the general consensus is that we want to see the scar when you're fully healed. Peace. ~J Karma from me for having the presence of mind to haul yourself to passerby nurses!
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Post by swordboy bringer of chaos on Jun 9, 2008 20:49:18 GMT
J's got a point have a +1 from me too
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2008 20:51:01 GMT
Tom, you now also enjoy the BEST post-to-karma ratio of anyone else in the forum. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2008 21:02:38 GMT
Tom Glad to see you're in good spirits. I knew the 55 stiches wasn't the whole story. There had to be muscular and vascular repair during the surgery. I hope you have a full and speedy recovery but I imagine there's lots of physical therapy ahead. Thanks for sharing your accident so it can be a lesson for all of us, but just think of the stories you'll be able to tell.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2008 0:02:16 GMT
Hi Tom, welcome and a speedy recovery to you!
+1 for posting your pics as a lesson to us all. I hope it saves someone else the agony of surgery and recovery. Thanks DJMahoney
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Post by alvin on Jun 10, 2008 0:27:39 GMT
Hey Tom. Welcome to the Forum. I'm sorry to hear of your accident, but glad to hear that, apparently anyway, you are on the way to recovery. And thanks for allowing Paul to post your story with the photo. That was a great thing that you did for the rest of us. An example is the best teacher, especially when we have become complacent. If you haven't named that sword yet, here is part of a saga that has a possible viking sword name. Swords were heirlooms. They were given names and passed from father to son for generations. The loss of a sword was a catastrophe. Laxdæla saga (chapter 30) tells how Geirmundr planned to abandon his wife Þuríðr and their baby daughter in Iceland. Þuríðr boarded Geirmund's ship at night while he slept. She took his sword, Fótbítr (Leg Biter) and left behind their baby. Þuríðr rowed away in her boat, but not before the baby's cries woke Geirmundr. He called across the water to Þuríðr, begging her to return with the sword. He told her to "take your daughter and whatever wealth you want." She asked, "Do you mind the loss of your sword so much?" "I'd have to lose a great deal of money before I minded as much the loss of that sword." "Then you shall never have it, since you have treated me dishonorably." Take care Tom, Jim.
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