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Post by Croccifixio on Feb 3, 2017 16:46:46 GMT
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Post by Dave Kelly on Feb 3, 2017 18:44:57 GMT
I might suggest buying your MRL rapiers from KoA. They do a better job of sharpening, if you go that route. As you are in Europe, Southern Swords in England is a source for Windlass and Cold Steel, you can price compare. Lutel is a another significant rapier merchant. May be a little priecier than you want. lutel-handicraft.com/ |
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Post by Lukas MG (chenessfan) on Feb 3, 2017 19:46:24 GMT
Maybe get a usable blade and mount it on the hilt you already have? H/T unfullered bastard sword would make a usable blade, a bit short but it would at least cut very well. More of a side-sword then...
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Post by Jordan Williams on Feb 3, 2017 20:50:38 GMT
I agree with Lukas, while I'm sure the Windlass is battle ready you might just want to find a good blade you like and mount it on your hilt. Might be a bit of work, but it'll be cheaper than a whole new sword and you'll have basically exactly what you want as well.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2017 21:15:08 GMT
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Feb 3, 2017 23:40:59 GMT
The windlass munich cut and thrust has a nice blade and guard-"shape", but to much weight in the hilt, esp. the pommel, to achieve a pob close to the guard.
But if you can mount your hilt...
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Post by howler on Feb 4, 2017 1:51:59 GMT
The windlass munich cut and thrust has a nice blade and guard-"shape", but to much weight in the hilt, esp. the pommel, to achieve a pob close to the guard. But if you can mount your hilt... I've been eyeballing this, as it has a nice shape/look, and you can put a finger in the loops and wield it like a heavy rapier. I heard the POB and handling was pretty good, but that the overall weight (near 3 1/2lbs...a lot in the hilt to balance the heavy blade) was the issue. You can always purchase the lighter $1,000 model, however  . I really wish there was more of a selection to choose from, as I really like the look and fighting options of these cut/thrust swords. |
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Feb 4, 2017 2:03:57 GMT
The blade isn't heavy, but the hilt feels like a dumbbell, with or without the blade.
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Post by howler on Feb 4, 2017 5:45:11 GMT
The blade isn't heavy, but the hilt feels like a dumbbell, with or without the blade. Yup, just looking at the thickness tells you its a chunk. But it does bring the POB close to the guard, which means the blade ain't no lightweight, and that near 3 1/2lb total is certainly on the heavy side. But I have heard it moves good for its weight. If it were real blade heavy (and they used a light hilt), I would imagine it would be a rather sluggish brute to wield. Is it Friday...drink. |
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Post by blackjack on Feb 4, 2017 6:06:12 GMT
I would have wanted the windlass munich but like so many beautiful hilts of the era it is right handed... drat!
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Feb 4, 2017 7:10:31 GMT
It's well usable for a lefty, I'm two-handed a bit.
But it's uncomfy to hold, pob is ok, but simply to heavy in the hand, exhausting and with a strange balance.
It's a cut and thrust and not a foil, so a bit blade presence is ok.
For me it really handles better without the heavy pommel.
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Post by Scott on Feb 4, 2017 10:47:53 GMT
I look at the windlass Munich as more of a brawling sword, punch someone in the face with the guard then hit them with the blade. It is not made for fancy moves.
Have you looked at the hanwei rapiers? Not the practical rapiers for sparring but the sharp ones.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Feb 4, 2017 11:47:44 GMT
This was sold in the US 4 ish years ago. It's not actually a "bilbao", being a hilt design that seems to have first appeared in the 1780s and adopted for Cavalry use 1796-1806. The original blade is a hex pattern, 36X1.5 inches. The US version came out with a 33x1.25 inch blade of diamond shape. Worse the mass pressed guard plates didn't align with the hilt bolts and every delivered copy at MRL tinkled like a bedpan when you dry handled the sword. If this is a refined version with an actual 35 inch blade, it could be interesting. I now have original 1796 and 1760 swords and won't be going there.   |
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Post by LeMal on Feb 4, 2017 13:41:10 GMT
I know you don't want to go expensive, but if you did it kind of sounds like something like Arms & Armor's Saxon military sword or Gustav Vasa rapier is up your alley.
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Post by pgandy on Feb 4, 2017 15:11:05 GMT
I never considered my Windlass Pilsen Rapier a cutting rapier however it does cut and handles well.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Feb 4, 2017 17:44:55 GMT
Funny, I had my d'Artagnan-day last sunday and ordered a MRL/Windlass Florentine Rapier and Dagger.
It's rather an epee than a rapier.
Still waiting for it...
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Post by LeMal on Feb 4, 2017 20:41:02 GMT
I know you don't want to go expensive, but if you did it kind of sounds like something like Arms & Armor's Saxon military sword or Gustav Vasa rapier is up your alley. LeMal, both of these look awesome and must be absolutely fantastic. Thanks for portending to those. I'm sure they're well worth the money. I've had my A&A Cavalier "Rapier" (not really a rapier, but whatever) for a long time and love it to death. Might be the sword, among all I have, I'd be the very last to part with. A bit short for what you're seeking otherwise I'd recommend it--but A&A is THE company for me, especially on complex hilted swords. |
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Post by howler on Feb 4, 2017 20:47:38 GMT
I would have wanted the windlass munich but like so many beautiful hilts of the era it is right handed... drat! I'm a demon lefty as well, but watch YouTube Wealljuggleknives (he to has the curse of the paw...lefty). |
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Post by Dave Kelly on Feb 4, 2017 21:02:18 GMT
LeMal, both of these look awesome and must be absolutely fantastic. Thanks for portending to those. I'm sure they're well worth the money. I've had my A&A Cavalier "Rapier" (not really a rapier, but whatever) for a long time and love it to death. Might be the sword, among all I have, I'd be the very last to part with. A bit short for what you're seeking otherwise I'd recommend it--but A&A is THE company for me, especially on complex hilted swords.  Finally got me one last autumn. Not a rapier; really a cut and thrust sword. Strong blade thru the midshaft and a stout thrusting point. I find the slender complex hilt a nuisance, until you put on gauntlets. Summons up Conquisadores, Tercios and Imperial German Pikemen. |
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Post by Afoo on Feb 4, 2017 22:54:07 GMT
The Windlass Munich is not bad. The blade is pretty good IMO. On paper its a bit thin, but in practice I find its wide enough to make up for it. Had enough heft and stiffness. Of course its not going to be as good as the Arms and Armour version, but for 1/3 of the cost its a good deal. The guard is beautiful, but heavy, as has been mentioned before. Aikidoka rectified this by chopping it down to make a side sword, which may be an acceptable solution. I am gradually thinning down the guard on mine with a grinder, but work has thus far gotten in the way of any major progress. I have been looking at some of the stuff from Wulflund lately. Their offerings in general seem interesting, and price point is a nice intermediate between Windlass and the higher end stuff. Uhlan had a pair of Schiavonas made by them and the results can be found here. Have yet to hear anything about their rapiers, but I may give one a shot before the year is done. |
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