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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Feb 2, 2017 16:24:56 GMT
Just picked up a Smith & Wesson M&P Performance Center Shield to replace my Sig P229 as my conceal carry. Both are in 40 S&W. •Model: Performance Center® Ported M&P®40 SHIELD™ •Caliber: .40 S&W •Capacity: 7 and 6 Rounds •Action: Striker Fire •Barrel Length: 3.1” (7.9 cm) •Front Sight: HI-VIZ® Fiber Optic Green •Rear Sight: HI-VIZ® Fiber Optic Red •Grip: Polymer •Weight: 17.9 oz. (507.4 g) •Overall Length: 6.1” (15.5 cm) •Overall Width: .95” (2.4 cm) •Overall Height: 4.6” (11.7 cm) •Frame Material: Polymer •Barrel Finish: Black 68 HRc •Slide Material: Stainless Steel •Finish: Black •Sight Radius: 5.3” (13.3 cm) What's your favorite conceal carry ?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 19:21:25 GMT
In a semi, Russian Makarov, mainly for the reliability. I once tried to make it jam (limp wristing, even fired it held upside down in a very loose hold) and it still cycled without a hiccup.
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Post by Sean (Shadowhowler) on Feb 2, 2017 19:32:45 GMT
Love the shield... I have one in 9mm with some APEX parts. Been tempted to pick up the performance center 40.
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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Feb 2, 2017 19:47:01 GMT
Some guy on YouTube did several extreme condition test on this M&P Shield to see if it would fail. Put it in water, mud, oil, sand etc. and each time it fire a full magazine without a misfire except once in the sand. Read and watched a lot of reviews on it, all said it was an excellent gun. Sean found the best price on it on the Sportsmans Outdoor Superstore $432 plus free shipping. www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/products2.cfm/ID/165384
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 20:50:27 GMT
Wow, that is a nice price! Congrats.
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Post by brotherbanzai on Feb 3, 2017 14:22:21 GMT
Nice choice. Should be a lot more comfortable to carry than the Sig. I was eyeing the performance center shield as well but the grip just isn't that comfortable to me (seems to be too long front to back for how thin it is side to side, doesn't fit the web of my hand well for whatever reason). Currently waiting for more reviews of the Honor Guard.
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Post by harrybeck on Feb 3, 2017 15:09:38 GMT
I have a .40 shield and it's a first rate CC pistol.
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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Feb 3, 2017 15:20:19 GMT
Yeah I was worried about the feel in my hand being that it's so much narrower than my Sig which feels great in my hand. But I actually like the feel. It's so narrow I can just put it in a pocket if I'm in a hurry and it looks like I have a wallet or smart phone in my pocket. I love the fiber optic sights, I'm going to get a set for the Sig as well.
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Post by Verity on Feb 3, 2017 19:50:34 GMT
I once upon a time carried a P229 as well. Weight is an issue though. But I love SIGs. I carry a Springfield Armory XD compact in .45 now.
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Post by vermithrax on Mar 29, 2017 0:15:24 GMT
I once looked into owning a legal gun here in mASSachusetts, but 100 pages of forms and a certified colonoscopy changed my mind Very nice!
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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Mar 29, 2017 17:04:34 GMT
I never got into the reloading thing, just don't have the time for it plus I can't sit still long enough. I useually just run Federal, Remington or Winchester. 155 grain hollow point for urban carry or 180 grain full metal for in the woods or target. I never buy the cheap stuff coming in from overseas. I'm hoping with the new 2nd Amendment friendly white house we will see a federal carry permit happen. Drivers licenses and marriage licenses are valid in any state why shouldn't a conceal carry permit be too. To show how dumb things are right now, here in New York State my permit is not valid in New York City but they can come up here with theirs.
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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Mar 30, 2017 4:22:32 GMT
The reason I go with the lighter hollow point for urbin carry is because if I have to take out a bad guy I don't also want to take out a good guy standing behind him.
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Post by wvfishguy on Apr 15, 2017 5:15:00 GMT
For concealed carry, I really like my Walther PPS (Police Pistol Slim). It's the only 9mm I own. You can also get it in .40 S&W. It's as slim as a pocket bible. I have four magazines for it, each of which is of a different length from small to having enough room for my little finger. I love this thing. Shown here is the longest magazine, a 9-shot. I also like this custom Ruger .357 Speed Six. Small package, big power.
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Post by wvfishguy on Apr 15, 2017 5:22:08 GMT
Cool, I like heavy-for-caliber. I would prefer 180 grainers for carry or even Doubletap 200 Grain. I've shot thousands of rounds of .40 out of my 4.5" Springfield XDm, and I've had two FTE's (jams). Both with Doubletap 200 grain bullets. Even my way-too-hot (1150 fps muzzle velocity for 180 grain bullets) handloads won't make it jam. I really like Doubletap, but I can't trust 200 grainers. However, if they were completely reliable in my gun, that's the factory load I'd use.
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Post by hoplos on Apr 16, 2017 16:18:18 GMT
Really like the Shield. Congrats.
I like to carry full sized guns. HK USP 9 LEM is my go to these days.
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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Apr 16, 2017 17:29:55 GMT
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Post by Verity on Apr 16, 2017 18:56:44 GMT
The reason I go with the lighter hollow point for urbin carry is because if I have to take out a bad guy I don't also want to take out a good guy standing behind him. I feel the same... I tend to carry (when carrying .40) 165gr. either Winchester Ranger Talon LEO, or Federal HST Tactical. I tend to like the 124gr in 9, though some 147gr are decent... And always 230gr in .45. ;)
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Post by bluetrain on Apr 17, 2017 11:43:20 GMT
How are these lightweight pistols to shoot? Not referring to accuracy or reliability but just what are they like when you actually shoot a round?
I ask the question because one of the nicest carry guns I ever had was a Colt lightweight Officer's ACP. The thing was something else to actually shoot and you really had to hang onto it. It would twist in the hand and kick like a mule. That's not to say it was painful or anything like that. There was no particular blast like there is with a magnum revolver and no flash, either, although I don't recall thinking any cartridge I ever used had a noticeable flash. But it was a really nice gun and I seriously doubt you'd notice any of those things if you were using it in a fight.
The curious thing was, I also had a Colt lightweight Commander in .45 auto. It was scarcely any different from firing a full-sized .45 auto and it was even easy to shoot. Yet is was only a little larger in length and height. I guess that made all the difference.
I also owned a few .357 magnum revolvers, K, L and N frames. None were difficult to shoot but the blast from a 125-grain .357 cartridge was terrific, almost as much as a .41 or .44 magnum, both of which had a lot more kick but I think no more blast than a .357. But I never used 158-grain or heavier .357 loads. Incidentally, I couldn't tell the difference in shooting between a .41 magnum and a .44 magnum.
I can only imagine what shooting a .357 in a J-frame revolver is like. S&W did made a J-frame with a five-inch barrel for a while during their gun of the month period several years ago. I thought that would made a fairly handy revolver to carry around in the woods but they came and went before I got one. For a while, they were introducing new models faster than I could buy them.
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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Apr 17, 2017 12:44:41 GMT
My Shield is the Performance Center model with the ported barrel so I can't say on the standard model but I don't notice any big difference from my larger 40 Sig. Target recovery is very fast for second or third shot. There are a lot of good reviews on the Shield on YouTube.
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Post by Sean (Shadowhowler) on Apr 17, 2017 13:53:21 GMT
How are these lightweight pistols to shoot? Not referring to accuracy or reliability but just what are they like when you actually shoot a round? I ask the question because one of the nicest carry guns I ever had was a Colt lightweight Officer's ACP. The thing was something else to actually shoot and you really had to hang onto it. It would twist in the hand and kick like a mule. That's not to say it was painful or anything like that. There was no particular blast like there is with a magnum revolver and no flash, either, although I don't recall thinking any cartridge I ever used had a noticeable flash. But it was a really nice gun and I seriously doubt you'd notice any of those things if you were using it in a fight. The curious thing was, I also had a Colt lightweight Commander in .45 auto. It was scarcely any different from firing a full-sized .45 auto and it was even easy to shoot. Yet is was only a little larger in length and height. I guess that made all the difference. I also owned a few .357 magnum revolvers, K, L and N frames. None were difficult to shoot but the blast from a 125-grain .357 cartridge was terrific, almost as much as a .41 or .44 magnum, both of which had a lot more kick but I think no more blast than a .357. But I never used 158-grain or heavier .357 loads. Incidentally, I couldn't tell the difference in shooting between a .41 magnum and a .44 magnum. I can only imagine what shooting a .357 in a J-frame revolver is like. S&W did made a J-frame with a five-inch barrel for a while during their gun of the month period several years ago. I thought that would made a fairly handy revolver to carry around in the woods but they came and went before I got one. For a while, they were introducing new models faster than I could buy them. As a general rule... the smaller the pistol the less pleasant it is to shoot. Less mass/weight means more felt recoil... less grip means less control of the weapon when shooting. That said... of the small guns I've shot, the shield is a very nice shooter.
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