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Post by Verity on Jun 10, 2017 3:23:51 GMT
I'm so in awe of how pristine you keep your blades (my OCD keeps mine safe and oiled) that I can't even pick a favorite! Not to echo every other comment, but your familial "treasure" is worth more, whether through sentimentality or actual value, than all your other blades. Whilst some might be considered "replaceable," your family's sabre is truly one of a kind......also your Winter Warden and Master Sword brought a tear to my eye....sort of 😉 Thank you, kind sir! |
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Post by Ramses1079 on Jun 10, 2017 3:36:02 GMT
My pleasure.....but you would happen to live on the exact opposite side of the country from me! Do you actually have a favorite? I didn't want to assume it is your heirloom sabre. You should name it "Birthright." Just don't say it as over-dramatically in your head like I just did or it'll sound stupid!
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Post by Verity on Jun 10, 2017 4:08:10 GMT
My pleasure.....but you would happen to live on the exact opposite side of the country from me! Do you actually have a favorite? I didn't want to assume it is your heirloom sabre. You should name it "Birthright." Just don't say it as over-dramatically in your head like I just did or it'll sound stupid! I don't have "a" favorite as that is too challenging... My Saber is a precious family heirloom, so there is that. I co-designed the blade of evil's bane so that is naturally a favorite. My favorite katana for cutting is my custom Hanwei Shinto... My favorite longsword is probably a close race between my Atrim XIIa.4 (Blackwater) and my Christian Fletcher Winter Warden. And my most beautiful and valuable sword is the Osafune Masamitsu |
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Post by Ramses1079 on Jun 10, 2017 4:14:41 GMT
Stupid question, I know. Like asking a Sultan which member of his harem is his "favorite" right?! Well minus the naughty aspect, but still a valid point! Any new prospects you've been eye-balling to add to your hare.....I mean collection?
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Post by Verity on Jun 10, 2017 4:38:46 GMT
Stupid question, I know. Like asking a Sultan which member of his harem is his "favorite" right?! Well minus the naughty aspect, but still a valid point! Any new prospects you've been eye-balling to add to your hare.....I mean collection? Haha! Well I am always eyeing new prospects. Probably will go for another Nihonto in Feb, but another Atrim (a XIIa.2) coming soon. |
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Post by Ramses1079 on Jun 11, 2017 17:11:09 GMT
Stupid question, I know. Like asking a Sultan which member of his harem is his "favorite" right?! Well minus the naughty aspect, but still a valid point! Any new prospects you've been eye-balling to add to your hare.....I mean collection? Haha! Well I am always eyeing new prospects. Probably will go for another Nihonto in Feb, but another Atrim (a XIIa.2) coming soon. "Another?" I still have to buy my first 😅 Do you have a reliable source/seller/forge? I know a few reputable smiths that make Tamahagane blades, but a "Nihonto" is a different animal entirely! May I ask where you're getting your Atrim from? |
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Post by Verity on Jun 11, 2017 17:24:07 GMT
Haha! Well I am always eyeing new prospects. Probably will go for another Nihonto in Feb, but another Atrim (a XIIa.2) coming soon. "Another?" I still have to buy my first 😅 Do you have a reliable source/seller/forge? I know a few reputable smiths that make Tamahagane blades, but a "Nihonto" is a different animal entirely! May I ask where you're getting your Atrim from? I know lots of reputable Nihonto dealers and am a member of the NMB (Nihonto Message Board). Great for learning and info. Getting the Atrim second hand from someone in Australia. Tom Kinder sometimes has Atrims (I got my XVIa.3 from him), and occasionally Gus has them for sale on his FB page. They are fantastic swords :) |
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Post by vermithrax on Jun 11, 2017 21:50:47 GMT
Verity is going to convince me to buy an Atrim with all the gushing he does about them!  |
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Post by Verity on Jun 12, 2017 0:02:22 GMT
Verity is going to convince me to buy an Atrim with all the gushing he does about them! :) Would certainly not be a decision that you'd regret ;) |
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Post by vermithrax on Jun 12, 2017 0:31:25 GMT
Verity is going to convince me to buy an Atrim with all the gushing he does about them! Would certainly not be a decision that you'd regret  Yeah so I gathered! |
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Post by Faldarin on Jun 12, 2017 14:25:28 GMT
Would certainly not be a decision that you'd regret Yeah so I gathered! Honestly...? I can't say I've really handled a medieval style sword until I picked up a modern ATrim. It's 'dynamically sound', but I'd more likely call it black magic of some sort. I had a non-sword collector friend of mine guess a nearly-three pound ATrim's weight at 'just over one'. You'd certainly regret it, because you would be looking for more. |
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Post by Verity on Jun 12, 2017 14:37:06 GMT
Honestly...? I can't say I've really handled a medieval style sword until I picked up a modern ATrim. It's 'dynamically sound', but I'd more likely call it black magic of some sort. I had a non-sword collector friend of mine guess a nearly-three pound ATrim's weight at 'just over one'. You'd certainly regret it, because you would be looking for more. :) Have you handled an Albion, Faldarin? I find my Christian Fletcher Winter Warden to be pretty close in dynamics to my Atrim XIIa.4 being similar blades with some differences but overall comparable dimensions. The Atrim does edge it out some but is 1/8" or so narrower at the shoulders and 2" shorter. The Winter Warden is huge and handles pretty darned well too. |
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Post by Faldarin on Jun 12, 2017 14:49:11 GMT
Have you handled an Albion, Faldarin? I find my Christian Fletcher Winter Warden to be pretty close in dynamics to my Atrim XIIa.4 being similar blades with some differences but overall comparable dimensions. The Atrim does edge it out some but is 1/8" or so narrower at the shoulders and 2" shorter. The Winter Warden is huge and handles pretty darned well too. I have not - not even any projects that have used Albion bare blades. The couple times where I have had money to potentially place an order on an Albion, I have been at the right place, right time for some interesting deals. For handling, I think it would be difficult for anyone to come close to whatever Gus does with his blades. Maybe some year I'll join the Borderwatch club and find out. Both of my higher end swords fall squarely in the 'bastard' category though, so they are shorter and lighter than most. Sometime, I'm sure I'll get a chance. |
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Post by Verity on Jun 12, 2017 14:55:52 GMT
Have you handled an Albion, Faldarin? I find my Christian Fletcher Winter Warden to be pretty close in dynamics to my Atrim XIIa.4 being similar blades with some differences but overall comparable dimensions. The Atrim does edge it out some but is 1/8" or so narrower at the shoulders and 2" shorter. The Winter Warden is huge and handles pretty darned well too. I have not - not even any projects that have used Albion bare blades. The couple times where I have had money to potentially place an order on an Albion, I have been at the right place, right time for some interesting deals. For handling, I think it would be difficult for anyone to come close to whatever Gus does with his blades. Maybe some year I'll join the Borderwatch club and find out. Both of my higher end swords fall squarely in the 'bastard' category though, so they are shorter and lighter than most. Sometime, I'm sure I'll get a chance. I would agree with that. As I said Winter Warden (which is built on a hand selected Albion Baron blade) is comparable to my Atrim XIIa.4, but the Atrim DOES still edge it out slightly. Difficult to be definitive since the dimensions are not identical so that muddies the comparison. I have heard John Lundemo blades are rivals in handling to Atrims but I've never actually handled a Lundemo. |
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Post by Verity on Jun 12, 2017 15:04:49 GMT
Have you handled an Albion, Faldarin? I find my Christian Fletcher Winter Warden to be pretty close in dynamics to my Atrim XIIa.4 being similar blades with some differences but overall comparable dimensions. The Atrim does edge it out some but is 1/8" or so narrower at the shoulders and 2" shorter. The Winter Warden is huge and handles pretty darned well too. I have not - not even any projects that have used Albion bare blades. The couple times where I have had money to potentially place an order on an Albion, I have been at the right place, right time for some interesting deals. For handling, I think it would be difficult for anyone to come close to whatever Gus does with his blades. Maybe some year I'll join the Borderwatch club and find out. Both of my higher end swords fall squarely in the 'bastard' category though, so they are shorter and lighter than most. Sometime, I'm sure I'll get a chance. To better articulate the comparison / contrast of handling of the Atrim and Winter Warden I'd say this: 1.) both swords belie their weight. Winter Warden weighs 3lb 11oz and "feels" like probably 3ish; Atrim XIIa.4 weighs 3lb 5oz and "feels" like 2.5. 2.) the Atrim is more dynamic in the cut with faster stops putting less wrist strain and better direction changes in a moment. However tip control is not as easy. 3.) winter warden's tip stays on target when moving through guard positions better but is a little harder to change momentum once the blade is moving through a cut. Now note while these are the differences they are really minute. The gaps defining these differences are super small. |
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Post by Faldarin on Jun 12, 2017 15:19:58 GMT
To better articulate the comparison / contrast of handling of the Atrim and Winter Warden I'd say this: 1.) both swords belie their weight. Winter Warden weighs 3lb 11oz and "feels" like probably 3ish; Atrim XIIa.4 weighs 3lb 5oz and "feels" like 2.5. 2.) the Atrim is more dynamic in the cut with faster stops putting less wrist strain and better direction changes in a moment. However tip control is not as easy. 3.) winter warden's tip stays on target when moving through guard positions better but is a little harder to change momentum once the blade is moving through a cut. Now note while these are the differences they are really minute. The gaps defining these differences are super small. This is the kind of thing I like to hear. Veering into a whole other topic, but it's still solid gold. I don't have enough 'similar' blades to make comparisons, but I will say that my Tinker and ATrim both handle incredibly well. (Considering the background of the Tinker, that shouldn't be surprising.) There's a moderate sized handling jump down to the Hanwei/Tinker blades, and then a moderate-to-large jump down from that to 'everything else' that I have handled. (Valiant Armoury is at the top of the 'everything else' category, maybe edging up into the moderate -rather than large- side of the jump.) ATrim,Tinker--->Hanwei/Tinker---->VA--->Almost everything else I've handled. (Very roughly illustrated) The closest comparison between two like blade shapes/sizes that I could do is between the Tinker XIIa and the VA Practical Longsword XIIa. That is hardly a fair fight, though the VAPL clearly holds its own against any contender in its own 'weight class' perse, even arguably against the H/Ts. (Edit: Again, this is just talking about what I've handled. More than a few, Ronin, Windlass, non H/T Hanweis - all in that category of 'almost everything else'.) |
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Post by Verity on Jun 12, 2017 15:37:58 GMT
Yeah. Once I get through individual sword reviewed I plan to embark on some comparison reviews since I think those are super valuable and informative.
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Post by Ramses1079 on Jun 12, 2017 18:01:53 GMT
Verity is going to convince me to buy an Atrim with all the gushing he does about them! Now, now....there's nothing wrong with "convincing" OR "gushing" for that matter. As long as he doesn't try to "coerce" you into something you don't want to do......or buy 😎 |
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Post by Ramses1079 on Jun 12, 2017 18:02:54 GMT
Verity is going to convince me to buy an Atrim with all the gushing he does about them! Would certainly not be a decision that you'd regret Here, here....I second that motion! |
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Post by Ramses1079 on Jun 12, 2017 18:13:06 GMT
Have you handled an Albion, Faldarin? I find my Christian Fletcher Winter Warden to be pretty close in dynamics to my Atrim XIIa.4 being similar blades with some differences but overall comparable dimensions. The Atrim does edge it out some but is 1/8" or so narrower at the shoulders and 2" shorter. The Winter Warden is huge and handles pretty darned well too. I have not - not even any projects that have used Albion bare blades. The couple times where I have had money to potentially place an order on an Albion, I have been at the right place, right time for some interesting deals. For handling, I think it would be difficult for anyone to come close to whatever Gus does with his blades. Maybe some year I'll join the Borderwatch club and find out. Both of my higher end swords fall squarely in the 'bastard' category though, so they are shorter and lighter than most. Sometime, I'm sure I'll get a chance. Fel, I had a quick chat with Skall about his "Viking-esque" Albion swords when he first got them, and not only are those bad boys worth every penny, but I do believe they are some of the less $$$ of the Albion clan. Still $1000 US and up, but more affordable than the rest of Albions stuff. I've been eyeballing one or two Darksword Armory (the Warmonger, and Wolfsbane) which don't fit in the budget right now : ( |
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