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Post by Cosmoline on Apr 5, 2019 18:33:40 GMT
Wow! That's an impressive one and I'd forgotten about it completely.
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Post by Croccifixio on Apr 6, 2019 1:14:23 GMT
When it comes to scenic and aesthetically pleasing fight scenes, nothing beats Chinese filmography in my view. And in Chinese films, Donnie Yen and Jet Li are two of the best ever (top 1 and 3 in my book)
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Post by Croccifixio on Apr 6, 2019 1:16:03 GMT
Here is another Donnie Yen gem, one filled with MMA action (Donnie is a big fan of MMA and has regularly trained in it since the early 2000s):
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Post by Croccifixio on Apr 6, 2019 1:17:57 GMT
Another Donnie favorite of mine, showing his arnis prowess. Special mention to Wu Jing who also trained at knife fighting for this:
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Post by legacyofthesword on Apr 6, 2019 2:58:30 GMT
Another Donnie favorite of mine, showing his arnis prowess. Special mention to Wu Jing who also trained at knife fighting for this:
I recently got to handle an extendable baton (either an ASP or some kind of clone). Very impressed. I'm curious though, which would be the better pick for self defense in a street fight (such as shown here)? Setting aside the social stigma and possible legal repercussions associated with knives, that is.
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Post by Croccifixio on Apr 6, 2019 3:01:03 GMT
Since I don’t intend to kill but mostly either incapacitate, or temporarily stop someone and then run away when there’s a good chance, I’d go for the baton.
That said, I carry a knife. If there doesn’t appear to be a way out (say I get cornered), the ability of the knife to instill mortal wounds (and terror) would be advantageous in my view.
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Post by legacyofthesword on Apr 6, 2019 3:07:08 GMT
Since I don’t intend to kill but mostly either incapacitate, or temporarily stop someone and then run away when there’s a good chance, I’d go for the baton. That said, I carry a knife. If there doesn’t appear to be a way out (say I get cornered), the ability of the knife to instill mortal wounds (and terror) would be advantageous in my view.
Good point about the baton being less lethal. I'd certain prefer to break a knee or arm and then run, as opposed to having the weight of a death on my psyche (even if totally justified).
Do you think the greater reach of the baton is negated or exceeded by the knife's advantages?
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Post by markus313 on Apr 6, 2019 6:44:12 GMT
Having worked 13 years as a bouncer and store detective, I’d say you`d gave a hard time breaking a knee or an arm with an ASP in a fight. The best chance for breaking is for the ASP itself. Knife vs. ASP with the knife wielder being aggressive/motivated/pressing, you better have a lot of space and quick feet using the ASP. That being said, I`ve used various models of extendable batons in various situations with various effect and don`t like knives for “self defense”, especially small ones, at all. Better is a good piece of wood. Or pepper spray, depending on environment. Or a gun, of course, if your local law allows to carry.
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Post by legacyofthesword on Apr 7, 2019 6:59:22 GMT
Having worked 13 years as a bouncer and store detective, I’d say you`d gave a hard time breaking a knee or an arm with an ASP in a fight. The best chance for breaking is for the ASP itself. Knife vs. ASP with the knife wielder being aggressive/motivated/pressing, you better have a lot of space and quick feet using the ASP. That being said, I`ve used various models of extendable batons in various situations with various effect and don`t like knives for “self defense”, especially small ones, at all. Better is a good piece of wood. Or pepper spray, depending on environment. Or a gun, of course, if your local law allows to carry. Interesting... By "piece of wood", do you mean a baton/club type object, or something smaller, like a kubotan?
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Post by markus313 on Apr 8, 2019 16:52:49 GMT
Interesting... By "piece of wood", do you mean a baton/club type object, or something smaller, like a kubotan? Kubotans are an effective and in most places legal tool of self-defense. I own a number of clubs and sticks, in many weights and sizes. Any will add power to your striking. Of course the longer/heavier, the more power you get, as long as they don`t get too unwieldy for your ability or too cumbersome for your intended purpose. George Silver said in open field, without armor, a quarterstaff of perfect length is amongst the best weapons to have. A kubotan used with skill can buy you enough time to make your escape. English Bobbys patrolled the mean streets of Victorian era London armed with nothing but a Billy club. Knives lack stopping power, but are very lethal. They can work for deterrence, they may not – use one in “self-defense” and be prepared for trouble with any judge or jury, especially if its appearance/build speaks anything other than "tool". Of course any piece of equipment/ accessoire must be used with proper adequateness/reasonability and in true terms of "self-defense" resp. "defense of another person".
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Post by pgandy on Apr 8, 2019 17:38:23 GMT
For a stick I suggest a cane, combat grade. Canes are legal to carry anywhere, it is always in your hand ready to go. My preference is something from Cane Masters. www.canemasters.com/
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Post by legacyofthesword on Apr 8, 2019 17:51:03 GMT
Interesting... By "piece of wood", do you mean a baton/club type object, or something smaller, like a kubotan? Kubotans are an effective and in most places legal tool of self-defense. I own a number of clubs and sticks, in many weights and sizes. Any will add power to your striking. Of course the longer/heavier, the more power you get, as long as they don`t get too unwieldy for your ability or too cumbersome for your intended purpose. George Silver said in open field, without armor, a quarterstaff of perfect length is amongst the best weapons to have. A kubotan used with skill can buy you enough time to make your escape. English Bobbys patrolled the mean streets of Victorian era London armed with nothing but a Billy club. Knives lack stopping power, but are very lethal. They can work for deterrence, they may not – use one in “self-defense” and be prepared for trouble with any judge or jury, especially if its appearance/build speaks anything other than "tool". Of course any piece of equipment/ accessoire must be used with proper adequateness/reasonability and in true terms of "self-defense" resp. "defense of another person". Hmm, well most of my martial arts training is sticks anyway (some sharpened, or forked, but definitely quarterstaffs). Now you've got me thinking about picking up a kubotan. I get that a good hickory is going to be better than an ASP, but I'm not sure how I'd be able to carry something like that.... For a stick I suggest a cane, combat grade. Canes are legal to carry anywhere, it is always in your hand ready to go. My preference is something from Cane Masters. www.canemasters.com/
I'm a (fairly) healthy 20-something-year-old, so I might look a little funny carrying a cane, especially if I do end up using it for self defense. But thanks for the link, I wouldn't mind collecting canes anyway.
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Post by pgandy on Apr 8, 2019 20:25:50 GMT
For a stick I suggest a cane, combat grade. Canes are legal to carry anywhere, it is always in your hand ready to go. My preference is something from Cane Masters. www.canemasters.com/
I'm a (fairly) healthy 20-something-year-old, so I might look a little funny carrying a cane, especially if I do end up using it for self defense. But thanks for the link, I wouldn't mind collecting canes anyway.
I hear that frequently. At about mark 6:29 in the video below that is addressed as it is several other places. You may find other spots of interest. There is nothing that says you have to carry a cane as though you need one. I had forgotten until just now, but while on a visit to the States to see an old army buddy we were coming out of a restaurant and a girl, about 20, said to me “you act like you don’t need a cane”, and my buddy said “he doesn’t” and broke into a laugh.
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Post by legacyofthesword on Apr 9, 2019 21:01:44 GMT
I'm a (fairly) healthy 20-something-year-old, so I might look a little funny carrying a cane, especially if I do end up using it for self defense. But thanks for the link, I wouldn't mind collecting canes anyway.
I hear that frequently. At about mark 6:29 in the video below that is addressed as it is several other places. You may find other spots of interest. There is nothing that says you have to carry a cane as though you need one. I had forgotten until just now, but while on a visit to the States to see an old army buddy we were coming out of a restaurant and a girl, about 20, said to me “you act like you don’t need a cane”, and my buddy said “he doesn’t” and broke into a laugh.
Awesome video, thanks.
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Post by elbrittania39 on Apr 14, 2019 5:10:34 GMT
Some Civil War sabre fencing. Their form is pretty good, proper cuts lunges and parries. But the fight is kinda too clean, every movement is too specific to be totally believable.
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Post by pgandy on Apr 14, 2019 16:38:00 GMT
I was born in Virginia, grew up in the South, spent much of my life in the South, and never heard a man speak like the corporal. Those phony Hollywood ancients get me every time. I also find those sabres surprisingly sharp for cadets who carried unsharpened swords, and this was a training exercise to boot. Hollywood, Hollywood.
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Post by elbrittania39 on Apr 14, 2019 16:47:01 GMT
I was born in Virginia, grew up in the South, spent much of my life in the South, and never heard a man speak like the corporal. Those phony Hollywood ancients get me every time. I also find those sabres surprisingly sharp for cadets who carried unsharpened swords, and this was a training exercise to boot. Hollywood, Hollywood. Well ah say. As a southern gentlemahn mah self, hailin from Charleston South Carolina, I can't find narry a thang wrong with this manna ah speech.
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Post by pgandy on Apr 14, 2019 17:34:26 GMT
The thing that I remember most about Charleston was the remarkably tall bridge that has since been replaced. Pretty town.
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Post by elbrittania39 on Apr 15, 2019 4:10:38 GMT
I love this scene. The utter terror when the pirates realize how hilariously out gunned they are.
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Post by elbrittania39 on Apr 28, 2019 21:39:05 GMT
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