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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 22:31:45 GMT
I've been developing some strong opinions on the pell. Yes, Roman writers including Vegetius remark on its use among the legions and gladiators, and this was repeated on or about the 13th century. If you have scores of new recruits to train, you've got to do something. I guess they would throw the green troops a bunch of axes and shovels and tell them to build pells and wooden wasters. Or have some slaves set this up. Then you have a few men on each pell, tell them to practice on it. Then you can ride past each group and correct whatever errors you see more easily.
But hitting a pell with a wooden sword or even a sharp blade can teach you to cut "to" the target rather than "through" it, which is what you want if your objective is to cut men down. Keep in mind, if you're training for a modern combat sport, then you're not as concerned with cutting "through" although you want to make your blow felt.
I do a lot more work with a double-weight sword, as close to the length of my primary weapons, and as close to twice the weight of the swords as I can get. After a careful and relatively slow workout, it's fun and amazing to see how my speed picks up when I go back to my live blades.
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Post by darth on Jun 11, 2016 7:05:42 GMT
I can only speak on my experience with using machete, kukri and knives in this manner, as well as sticks. Like any training method outside of an actual combat, there are flaws, one has to recognise these flaws and account for them. If there are too many flaws compared to the benefits, it's gone, but if there are benefits to be had then you make up for the flaws with other training methods. Cutting has it's flaws and you have to set things back up.
A pell is for distiance, feel and continuous play, for getting used to the fact that your sword may bounce back at you when you hit something hard from my POV.
But it's not something I want to do with anything but a cheaper but able blade, not hard as that guy in the video shows, that's what I've done for 15 years or more with smaller blades, but I've also cut all kinds of thing and other training to be as formidable as I can with a knife without going out and getting in fights with knives.
Training with a heavier sword. I bought a scratch and bent beater called the Warrior form KOA, and I'll grab the next cheap but safe oversized, front heavy saber I can find and I've swung shovels around for strength training since I was 13. Glad to hear someone who works with these bigger blades say that's a good idea. Maybe I should go pipe, and leafspring hunting at the scrap hard. :-)
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Post by Adventurer'sBlade on Jul 6, 2016 7:15:38 GMT
I don't know how correct this is, but when training on a pell I tend to pull through the strikes - that is, after landing the initial strike I keep pulling the edge across the face of the pell (pushing into the pell) until the blade is free at the natural end point of the cut. I feel like this slicing action would help free up a blade and maximize soft tissue cutting if actually done on an assailant.
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Jul 6, 2016 8:11:03 GMT
I don't know how correct this is, but when training on a pell I tend to pull through the strikes - that is, after landing the initial strike I keep pulling the edge across the face of the pell (pushing into the pell) until the blade is free at the natural end point of the cut. I feel like this slicing action would help free up a blade and maximize soft tissue cutting if actually done on an assailant. It's a classic (and very effective) cutting technique, so it's useful to include it in pell-training.
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Post by Sir Thorfinn on Aug 1, 2016 23:36:33 GMT
Consider wrapping your pell in old carpet. It deadens the blow, and saves joints.
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