Sean (Shadowhowler)
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Post by Sean (Shadowhowler) on Dec 20, 2016 0:15:24 GMT
I think this is really the environment for the M1A. It is a good DMR for intermediate range, and attempting to turn it into a long range sniper rifle (where a good bolt action is superior) is an expensive mistake. I purchased a standard with composite stock (they were switching over to fiberglass in Vietnam for a reason...even though the wood is very pretty) that weighs 8 1/2lbs. or so. When you begin "snipering out" this classic format, you begin to put serious weight on it, changing its "battle rifle" characteristics, and turning it into something else. If I had to do things over again and wanted to save some money in the end. If I wanted a sniper rifle I would have just grabbed a remington 700 tactical in 308,20 moa 1 piece mount with a Primary Arms 4-14 X 44mm FFP Scope R-Grid Reticle on top. Would give you a sub-moa beast for under $1000. I sold the M1a b4 heading out to the Middle East... but I still have a Remington 700 in storage back home.
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Post by howler on Dec 20, 2016 3:14:51 GMT
I think this is really the environment for the M1A. It is a good DMR for intermediate range, and attempting to turn it into a long range sniper rifle (where a good bolt action is superior) is an expensive mistake. I purchased a standard with composite stock (they were switching over to fiberglass in Vietnam for a reason...even though the wood is very pretty) that weighs 8 1/2lbs. or so. When you begin "snipering out" this classic format, you begin to put serious weight on it, changing its "battle rifle" characteristics, and turning it into something else. If I had to do things over again and wanted to save some money in the end. If I wanted a sniper rifle I would have just grabbed a remington 700 tactical in 308,20 moa 1 piece mount with a Primary Arms 4-14 X 44mm FFP Scope R-Grid Reticle on top. Would give you a sub-moa beast for under $1000. I think this is best. Irons for the intermediate range M1A and a scoped R 700 (both shooting the 308).
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Post by howler on Dec 20, 2016 3:30:04 GMT
If I had to do things over again and wanted to save some money in the end. If I wanted a sniper rifle I would have just grabbed a remington 700 tactical in 308,20 moa 1 piece mount with a Primary Arms 4-14 X 44mm FFP Scope R-Grid Reticle on top. Would give you a sub-moa beast for under $1000. I sold the M1a b4 heading out to the Middle East... but I still have a Remington 700 in storage back home. I got a R 700 bull barrel varmint with X pro trigger a few years back, then had to deal with recall and whatnot. Still have the Springfield standard with synth grips. A scoped shot at distance is simply best with bolts.
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Post by howler on Dec 20, 2016 23:05:35 GMT
I got a R 700 bull barrel varmint with X pro trigger a few years back, then had to deal with recall and whatnot. Still have the Springfield standard with synth grips. A scoped shot at distance is simply best with bolts. Imo no reason to go too expensive like I did. I got the R700 5R 308 with a SWFA SS HD 5-20x50 with a nightforce 1 piece mount. About 3 grand all together. I don't shoot it enough lol. Sounds like a good rig you got there. I got the 700 Varmint from Dicks sporting goods on a black Friday deal (under $400 after tax). Semi auto ability is cool, but really works best (suppression and quick follow up shots) at med and short distances. The bolt will always win at long distance (though one can argue what short, medium and long mean). The M1a is a battle rifle which shines in designated marksman role with increased penetration and lethality needs (maybe 200-400 yards or so...600 tops). When people alter it with heavy rails, bipods, scopes, bedding, custom stocks, etc..., they alter its function, thus turning it into a super heavy, less reliable, inferior to a bolt, franken build, and at a frightful economic expense. The Springfield, as is, is an improved M1 Garand, with its iron sights being the best. A person really needs to ask themselves what they want and expect, as I have heard horror stories of people altering things with false expectations. Most people will never be able to outshoot the inherent accuracy of the guns anyway, but get caught up in thinking they are a super operator, and therefore need a 10,000 dollar piece of equipment to go with their "ninja skills" ("one shot one kill)...like they saw in the movies .
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Post by howler on Dec 22, 2016 9:05:22 GMT
Grin - mine has an original E2 stock Selector cut out, I believe. Shoot that beast full auto.
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