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Post by highlander200268 on May 31, 2016 23:35:38 GMT
my general spine for my recurves is around 500-600 with a shelf bow, non shelf you just have to play around with, you might try aluminum arrows as well if paradox is an issue they do not flex as much as wood or carbon
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Post by Scott on May 31, 2016 23:58:49 GMT
Hey dch, good to talk. I am curious about shooting a left handed bow as a right handed shooter. In all regards I shoot r/h, I draw string with my r/h, I hold the bow with my l/h. But the shelf is on my right side. so as i loads, my arrows go straight onto the shelf. I am told this will introduce adverse paradox, the arrow will flex, hit the bow, and veer wildly, missing my target. But only if I use a euro 3 finger draw. I should use an Asian draw - with a thumb ring Lars, and some others, seem to contradict this. Any views on this? Jammer does your bow have a cut out where the arrow shelf is? So the arrow is going through where the middle of the bow would be if it was straight as opposed to the arrow pointing off to the side? If it does I wouldn't worry too much about archers paradox. Shooting off the knuckle might be different. The bit about adverse paradox sounds like crap, since the same bow with great same arrow shot by a left hander would work just fine. The only real difference is the side of the string your fingers are on. Don't grip the string tightly and you should be fine. |
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Post by highlander200268 on Jun 1, 2016 0:47:22 GMT
Just a thought to, i would also check the limbs to make sure they are not twisted, if a bow is strung wrong or kept with the string on it can develop a twist and cant from one side to another, effecting the paradox a lot
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Post by jammer on Jun 2, 2016 20:13:05 GMT
This is the hypothesis to which I am referring.
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Post by jammer on Jun 2, 2016 20:15:46 GMT
Or possibly this one, afaik they arrive at similar conclusions.
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Jun 2, 2016 20:26:59 GMT
This is the hypothesis to which I am referring. That's the traditional reason for left/right. But off-side works, too. For proof, watch some modern Mongolian archers who shoot thumb draw + left side. Compare with old-style Mongolian archers who shoot on the "correct" side. |
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Post by jammer on Jun 2, 2016 20:39:02 GMT
Timo, both the videos are of eastern archery using thumb, no?
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Jun 2, 2016 21:28:45 GMT
Yes.
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Post by dchisenh on Jun 3, 2016 2:05:11 GMT
Scott hit the nail on the head when it comes to a shelf or cut out in your bow vs. shooting off knuckle. After seeing those archer's paradox videos Jammer posted a few hours ago where people are using bows that have no real grip to speak of, I think that's why I was so confused...as well as why I hadn't heard of the archer's paradox, it isn't really applicable to the style of shooting I learned. The bows I've used look like the bows in the link below: tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=next_topic;f=14;t=004487;go=olderAs you can see from those images, there's a shelf there and a distinct palm swell in the grip area, making it very, very difficult to shoot the arrow from the other side (damn near impossible unless you really practiced it for a very, very long time!). When an arrow is loaded, it is basically centered and it really simplifies things. I guess the shelf and grip I'm used to on my recurve is more modern than the older style bows, eastern or otherwise, that are being discussed here; but when I hear 'recurve' that's what comes to mind for me. -Dan |
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Post by joseph08 on Feb 21, 2019 5:59:25 GMT
Should be listening to both sides of story.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2020 4:43:46 GMT
I am a fan of Lars, because he is amazing at what he does. I don't really enjoy shooting high power bows either, as I lack a range, hate it when high power bow strings hit my arm, and it makes it not very fun when it comes to aiming. I shoot a 25lbs bow and love it. I shoot for fun, as I am not in an english army
If I wanted power I would use... My crossbow. 200lbs of power. That thing scares me tbh. I lack a place to practice it in
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