Luka
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Post by Luka on Mar 18, 2015 18:50:31 GMT
Thanks to our members here who never cease to talk about the glorious M1822 french light cavalry sabers they are buying, I caught a 1822 fever and for months I'm looking for one I can afford and is in decent condition. I am thinking of buying this one so I thought I might as well first post seller's photos here so that you guys can comment if you see something wrong with it. I will inspect it in person prior to buying, but more eyes are always useful...
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Post by William Swiger on Mar 18, 2015 19:27:40 GMT
Looks to be in good shape.
I like mine very much.
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Post by Uhlan on Mar 18, 2015 19:44:17 GMT
Hello Luka.
Apart from the pommel having a dent, I can see nothing wrong with it. The scabbard does not belong to this sabre I think. It has the 1 ring config from after 1882 and I cannot see traces of the removal of the second ring.What is strange though is that the blade has the fuller ending near the guard, like the blades up to 1850. After 1860 there should be small ricasso. Maybe after the war the sabre was refurbished? Also the guard is not turned down so much as with a 1875 model. This guard looks almost flat, like an M1822 / M1882. Ask for a good picture of the peen. The peen head should be nicely rounded and polished. May I ask what the price is? Very interesting find indeed.
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Luka
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Post by Luka on Mar 18, 2015 19:58:49 GMT
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Post by Uhlan on Mar 18, 2015 20:07:32 GMT
Yes you are right. I misread my french text. Sorry. The price is a steal, certainly with a scabbard in this condition.
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Post by Luka on Mar 18, 2015 20:19:27 GMT
Yep, I know. But to be able to buy it I must get my money back from a guy who owns me, so I'm still not sure if I'll be able to get this one. I hope I will, it is for sale for months, probably it won't dissapear during the next few days... :)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 22:45:59 GMT
Yes, looks good for the price!
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Post by Dave Kelly on Mar 19, 2015 0:34:43 GMT
Marvelous! The Emeperor will be so pleased!! Vive Napoleon, Vive L'Empereur!
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Post by Afoo on Mar 19, 2015 2:22:26 GMT
Stop this French nonsense before Pino's 1796 LC collection comes after you
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Post by aronk on Mar 19, 2015 2:23:00 GMT
Beautiful. In slightly better condition than my 1880 trooper. Out of curiosity, did the seller tell you if it is sharpened? Which reminds me Dave, I might have to buy that extra M1822 off of you.
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Post by Uhlan on Mar 19, 2015 12:56:54 GMT
Stop this French nonsense before Pino's 1796 LC collection comes after you Nah, that's Dave's extra special bacon covered lard an goo sandwich. Pure Prussian delight.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Mar 20, 2015 12:17:03 GMT
Napoleon he always like to say, "Le sucre, le sucre; toujours sucre."
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Luka
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Post by Luka on Mar 20, 2015 13:04:22 GMT
Beautiful. In slightly better condition than my 1880 trooper. Out of curiosity, did the seller tell you if it is sharpened? Which reminds me Dave, I might have to buy that extra M1822 off of you. I forgot to ask if it was sharpened.
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Post by Luka on Mar 20, 2015 14:27:05 GMT
I got the money, now I just have to get a ride to the seller to see in person if everything looks ok. :)
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Post by Dave Kelly on Mar 20, 2015 17:14:59 GMT
Lucky to be able to get access to a sword prior to committing to it. In a acquiring an historic saber sharpness is usually considerated as a negative sales attribute; unless it is inperiod and professionally done. Enlisted attempts at sharpening can be very corse and unattractive. Military contract swords were usually delivered in a ready to sharpen conditions with a semi finished rolled edge capabble of doing damage with enough force.
More critical to buying in is the condition of the hilt. Hard use puts a lot of pressure between tang and grip that can cause bends and expasions that loosens the hilt. Weapon selling too cheaply might have a condition that detracts from servicability and collector value.
Pictures look very good. Hope that is the case and you get yourself the sabre.
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Post by aronk on Mar 20, 2015 18:00:47 GMT
Yes. Hilt tightness is the first question to ask a seller of they don't make any claims in that direction in their item descriptions. Loose hilts can be repaired, but it can be costly.
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Post by Luka on Mar 20, 2015 21:39:47 GMT
My local swordsmith would repair and tighten the hilt for 30-50 dollars, insignificant after I give 300 euros for a sword... ;)
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Post by Dave Kelly on Mar 21, 2015 1:17:24 GMT
I hate you...
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Post by aronk on Mar 21, 2015 2:09:52 GMT
Local swordsmith? I second Dave.
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Post by Afoo on Mar 21, 2015 2:32:32 GMT
Local swordsmith? I second Dave. Fortunately for me, William Scully Ltd in Montreal is still in business. Dunno how much it would be to have a hilt tightened, but I think my brother was quoted something under $100. Just saying :P Though on that note, there may still be quite a few of the old sword cutters/outfitters in business - wouldn't be a bad idea to go poking around to see what they offer
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