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Post by lordsavage on Dec 25, 2014 22:35:36 GMT
So I have a Windlass Classic Medieval sword that had a wobbly hilt. I had been told by some to try and re peen it with a hammer, some said no, and I also was told that it has a threaded pommel and would need to be taken apart. Now I contacted Kult of Athena who said that they could re peen it for me for $10 and that it did not have a threaded pommel.
Well aside from all the comments I went ahead and re peened it myself and not it does not wobble. Yay!
But if it was threaded I just messed it all up even though it is not wobbly anymore I would think.
Anyone taken one of these apart before and if so was yours threaded and peened like I am told? Didn't know if maybe it was like that on older or newer models perhaps. I bought mine a few years ago.
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Post by RicWilly on Dec 25, 2014 22:51:34 GMT
If KOA said it's peened, I'd take their word for it. It seems I remember a member doing a redo on the hilt of one of these, I'm thinking it was peened. That was at least five years ago tho.
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Post by jwest on Dec 26, 2014 0:43:28 GMT
If KOA said it's peened, I'd take their word for it. It seems I remember a member doing a redo on the hilt of one of these, I'm thinking it was peened. That was at least five years ago tho. I think that was Yeoldgaffer. Also JGonalez has a classic hilt tear down in the sword construction data base thread.
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Post by lordsavage on Dec 26, 2014 3:33:39 GMT
Thanks for the info, here are the pictures of it after I hammered it. Yes it does look ugly but Windlass polishes out their peen usually pretty nice. The metal looks thin on top now after I hammered it though, hope it's alright!
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Post by jwest on Dec 26, 2014 6:32:59 GMT
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Post by jwest on Dec 26, 2014 6:36:41 GMT
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Post by lordsavage on Dec 26, 2014 6:59:26 GMT
Thanks! Sorry for a stupid question, just have a lot going on right now, but did I just really mess up the sword? There was a big mushroom straight from windlass already but I probably expanded it by 15-25 percent.
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Post by jwest on Dec 26, 2014 7:41:40 GMT
Thanks! Sorry for a stupid question, just have a lot going on right now, but did I just really mess up the sword? There was a big mushroom straight from windlass already but I probably expanded it by 15-25 percent. Maybe, Maybe not. First you said the hilt was wobbly. And now it is not. A step in the right direction. Wood grip cores can shrink over time. Wood usually shrinks along the grain. Not always. I guessing your's got shorter. And it was probably not the best fit in the first place. As in a loose fit to begin with using compression from the peened pommel to tighten the hilt assembly. Or you compressed the grip core during re-peening and it did not split. I would really consider replacing the grip core and re-peening as shown in the Yeoldgaffers thread above. Windlass is not known for the best peen out there. I doubt you have messed up the sword. It may just need a little TLC.
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Post by jwest on Dec 26, 2014 8:13:19 GMT
And no this sword does not have a threaded tang. Missed that. Sorry.
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Post by lordsavage on Dec 26, 2014 16:59:39 GMT
Thanks! Sorry for a stupid question, just have a lot going on right now, but did I just really mess up the sword? There was a big mushroom straight from windlass already but I probably expanded it by 15-25 percent. Maybe, Maybe not. First you said the hilt was wobbly. And now it is not. A step in the right direction. Wood grip cores can shrink over time. Wood usually shrinks along the grain. Not always. I guessing your's got shorter. And it was probably not the best fit in the first place. As in a loose fit to begin with using compression from the peened pommel to tighten the hilt assembly. Or you compressed the grip core during re-peening and it did not split. I would really consider replacing the grip core and re-peening as shown in the Yeoldgaffers thread above. Windlass is not known for the best peen out there. I doubt you have messed up the sword. It may just need a little TLC. Thanks! That makes me feel better, I have been wanting to do an custom project when I learn some more and my skill grows.
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Post by lordsavage on Dec 27, 2014 20:30:49 GMT
If KOA said it's peened, I'd take their word for it. It seems I remember a member doing a redo on the hilt of one of these, I'm thinking it was peened. That was at least five years ago tho. Gotta comment on this one....
The folks at KOA do their very BESTon the issue of a peened tang. The problem? MANY pommels on MANY swords now show up both peened & threaded . There is really only one way to detect this - tear the sword down. Visual inspection WILL tell you if there is some kind of a peen - but it won't tell you if there are also threads .
Now, we really can't expect KOA to "eat" a sword this way, just to determine the NATURE of the peen (functional, or cosmetic). This is why our forum's "Sword Construction Data Base" is so important to anyone that wants to do a re-build, or even repair. For example? (and this does NOT apply to the sword that was inquired about) - if one attempts to "tighten up" a cosmetic peen by whacking it? Wellllll - you are pretty much banging on threads . This would be counter-productive .
Banging on a cosmetic peen would just mess up the threading, why can't everyone just make honest peens
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