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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2008 17:57:37 GMT
+1 good find.
I would think that just like 1560, 1566 would be an excellent steel, however Chinese swords should be in the high 50's for HRC.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2008 19:07:08 GMT
With the rockwell hardness being so low, I would imagine the swords are more like steel whips. If they are full tang I imagine they are functional for certain kinds of chores and combat. For test cutting I would find their use limited.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2008 19:11:17 GMT
Rockwell hardness has little to do with stiffness. If anything, a lower hardness would be stiffer. It would just take a set instead of springing back.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2008 19:28:02 GMT
The question is are they functional to the kind of test cutting that is mostly done by forum members?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2008 21:43:19 GMT
The question is are they functional to the kind of test cutting that is mostly done by forum members? IMO as long as we arent as tough on our blades as shootermike theyre fine. Thanks for the karma, Garret!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2008 2:02:11 GMT
The question is are they functional to the kind of test cutting that is mostly done by forum members? That really depends on the user. If you're looking at cutting for pure fun than any sharpened metal thing will do. If you're cutting to practise your form and to see how actual swords perform on different mediums than no, it wouldn't suffice.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2008 16:47:51 GMT
I know it is a little above $300 (around $450+)but does anybody have any experience/information on the Hanwei Qi Jian, I have fallen in love with this sword from it's picture,description and history and have (foolishly?) ordered one?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2008 16:56:01 GMT
Garrettc: Any details on your sharp and shiny things?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2008 23:21:11 GMT
Currently I'm sitting on my butt waiting for all the prototypes to come in. I think they should be here sometime next week. I expect delays though. I could have started production based on the jian prototype alone but I'd rather play it safe.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2008 5:26:01 GMT
Ahh, I see. I am looking forward to seeing your produce, especially your dao.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2009 23:40:22 GMT
THE REASON CHINESE SWORDS ARE NOT CLASSIFIED AS CUTTERS...
cutting as we do it is not how these are designed. the jian is designed for more of a "stick and slice" kid of attack... like a rapier. a gentleman's weapon is not used to barbarically hack or decapitate.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2009 23:41:20 GMT
THE REASON CHINESE SWORDS ARE NOT CLASSIFIED AS CUTTERS...
cutting as we do it is not how these are designed. the jian is designed for more of a "stick and slice" kid of attack... like a rapier. a gentleman's weapon is not used to barbarically hack or decapitate.
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Post by alvin on May 11, 2009 0:03:07 GMT
.....a gentleman's weapon is not used to barbarically hack or decapitate. Que lastima...then, it's just not my kind of sword But the jian is a very attractive weapon.
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Post by sicheah on May 11, 2009 0:36:37 GMT
THE REASON CHINESE SWORDS ARE NOT CLASSIFIED AS CUTTERS... cutting as we do it is not how these are designed. the jian is designed for more of a "stick and slice" kid of attack... like a rapier. a gentleman's weapon is not used to barbarically hack or decapitate. When you say "Chinese swords are not cutters" I think you mean only the double-edge swords (jians). The single edge (daos) are designed to hack and slash just like a katana (katanas are cooler though ;D). Examples are miao (corn saber) dao, zhan-ma (cutting-horse) dao and da (big) dao. Even a well made jians could easily hack an arm off, but you are right they are not primarily designed for hack and slash. Technically there are so many types of Chinese swords (hammers, halberd, maces, spears, etc) specialized for different type of "killing" that using the term "Chinese swords" to refer to a jian is very misleading IMO.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2009 23:30:46 GMT
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Post by sicheah on May 13, 2009 0:34:14 GMT
The sword looks awesome but trueswords does not specify the weights, POB and all other details. Given the beefy size of the tsuka, it "looks" pretty unwieldy for a single hand and is seems it is designed for a two-handle sword. How does it handle compared to a single-hand jian? If would be interesting if there is a review on this sword.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2009 13:56:41 GMT
sicheah,
i will make an official review here later, as i need to email true swords for the weight. It handles excellent, and you are right that it handles like a two-handed sword. however, you can one hand use it just as well. The balance is superb so that you can do that, only one problem is that to reverse a semi-circular parry, you have to modify how you plce your wrist in relation w/ the handle, so as to not catch the handle against your wrist. I spar w/ my brother w/ it an have only been defeated once out of about 20 time by his katana, and he is not bad either. when he uses it and i the katana i only win 2 out of 5.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2009 10:38:29 GMT
THE UNITED BLACK IKAZUCHI
I bought this sword, mainly for its constructio. However, the looks were totally great as well. I spent some time looking at different web sites, trying to find out more about it first. Finally, I went to United Cutlery’s site and downloaded a pdf file on it with the hrc rating and blade material info. Still not satisfied that I possessed enough knowledge to go ahead and buy one (broke too many SLO’s trying to work out with them), I contacted United and was informed that the tang was 3/4 tang. So I ordered one from (okay nobody laugh at me) BudK. (Lowest price) I don’t think there is any true historic representation here, except a missing link between Chinese and Japanese swords. My initial impression was one of “not another cardboard box!!!” but inside was a viagra moment to look upon. I knew the handle was leather wrapped over rayskin, but it was tight, really tight. Almost 6 months later and it still hasn’t loosened. The tribal style designs in the metal fittings a total eye-catcher. I had to cut something. So I cut the box...like a razor. The blade is 30" and overall length 41.5" (math) the guard aprox 3" dia. POB about 3.5". No listing on COP. WEIGHT no listing have to weigh it myself, later. The blade on this sword is very sharp. The hrc is 58. The polish, though not mirror, is well done. One or two blemishes, easily repaired with Never-Dull. The whole sword weight seems almost nonexistent due to balance.. Well not quite but enough to be great. It is a 1045 mono-steel, and mono-temper. For hamon fans that is not good. But I use it like a jian, so it doesn’t bother me. There is a fuller’s grove though, again with positive oon balance. The handle is wrapped with black leather over white rayskin. 3/4 tang is what United states, but closer to full tang. Dual bamboo mekugi. Assembly is so tight that it is dificult to disassemble. That might be a negative, but I think it it a positive since it hasn’t loosened after much sparing and cutting... jugs and even up to 1" branches. Oh even through a 8" wide box of dirt. The tsubais tight and is black colored brass. Nice designs in it... suposed to be “tribal”. The fuchi matches. The saya is the only real complaint that I have. Looks outstanding, but since I keep the blade oiled, it slides too easily... cause a major FUBAR. Fell out of sheath while leaning forward to check around the corner and cut my ankle. Darned thing so sharp I barely felt it, but cost 7 stitches. Also is a little rattle of sword in sheath. The greatest part about the Ikazuchi still has to be the balance. It is so responsive to the movements of your wrist that parrying is a breeze. Defeated my wife’s Musashi Bamboo katana many times and even nicked her blade. Switching swords usually changes the odds. Enough to tell that part of skill is how the sword responds. For the price, YES. If the price was more, YES. (But don’t let the sellers know that they might raise the price).
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2009 10:40:18 GMT
p.s.
gotta learn how to post pics. i gotta read up on it. any advise?
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Post by YlliwCir on May 25, 2009 11:45:36 GMT
p.s. gotta learn how to post pics. i gotta read up on it. any advise? Lots of techical stuff here.
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