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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2007 1:16:43 GMT
Yesterday I got a helmet I bought on eBay. for the price paid $68 it is a good buy. It is big although the face plate kinda flattens my nose. I need a headpiece padding to make it fit me well, otherwise it's too big. here's a link to the helm: cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300113492208
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Post by randomnobody on Jun 27, 2007 3:30:46 GMT
Not bad. Now we need photos of you modeling this for us.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2007 6:53:43 GMT
Looks good. Is says 18 gage so you can use it for sparing with padded weapons. Don't use with wooden wasters at full power because it will dent. You can get some cell foam from campmore.com to pad the inside. You will need a gorget to protect your throat if you want to do light sparring.
Post some pictures of you wearing it once you pad the inside. Also tell us what you think of the visibility though this style.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2007 0:42:36 GMT
pictures will come a bit later (my digital cam was busted by one of my kids), but if wearing pads, visibility is good. But I guess those helms were made for people with huge heads, since it is quite big (and i'm big headed)..........
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Post by randomnobody on Jun 28, 2007 0:48:48 GMT
They're probably made big intentionally. Though I wouldn't know. Just makes sense that 1) it's easier to stuff foam/other into something to make it smaller than it is to make something that is too small bigger 2) keep it from resting directly on the head, defeating its own primary purpose. Similar to how a lot of modern helmets have netting in them. At least, mine does...
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Post by rammstein on Jun 28, 2007 1:54:05 GMT
Aku, I would argue that your spangenhelm is (hate to say it) most likely not historically correct in every detail. remember, in all of our artwork depictions of helms, you cannot see the inside liner and therefore cannot tell how it would have been held on the head. The remaining originals we have seem to have some sort of suspension system however, similar to randomnobody's modern helm.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2007 3:06:26 GMT
don't worry Ramm I did not buy it for historical accuracy but for its price and looks............it falls somewhat into the "fantasy" realm of armor, swords etc........still need other armor to make myself look terrifying as a barbarian with my huge (wall hanger) war axe................
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2007 3:53:39 GMT
They're probably made big intentionally. Though I wouldn't know. Just makes sense that 1) it's easier to stuff foam/other into something to make it smaller than it is to make something that is too small bigger 2) keep it from resting directly on the head, defeating its own primary purpose. Similar to how a lot of modern helmets have netting in them. At least, mine does... No doubt about that. I don't think anyone ever wore a helmet or arming cap without padding. The mettle pressing up against your head is unbearable for one thing. Second, the protection is greatly enhanced. On the historical accuracy of the helm, I have seen the ocular design in a museum. I have seen such a great deal of variation in armor and so little has survived, that I have to take the opinion that anything plausible was tried at one point or another.
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Post by jpfranco on Jun 28, 2007 15:27:33 GMT
Does the Sutton Hoo helmet ring a bell? Aku's helm seems to be inspired by it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2007 23:13:33 GMT
It seems that the Spanglehelm design was fairly common though out Europe after the 6th century, with the eye protection as an option. The key characteristic seems to be the ribbed frame that creates the top. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpangenhelmThe Sutton Hoo helmet that was discovered seems to be more of a display piece meant for burial. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sutton_HooIt is interesting that it mentions the design dating back to Roman times.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2007 15:12:07 GMT
ummmmmmmmmm..................In less than a week it got covered with rust.......i cleaned it, scrubbed it with an antirust liquid i have for my swords, bathed it in mineral oil, but the rust marks are still there cannot make them dissapear...........i know i live in a tropical area where humidity is everyday, but still, last week it was ok, today I went to take it from where it was and bam!!!!! an incredible rust attack!!!
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Post by randomnobody on Jul 17, 2007 3:53:56 GMT
Well, that sucks. Is it that bad?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2007 2:46:11 GMT
Well at least you know its not Stainless Steel. I automaticaly rustproof all my armor.
Go to hardware store and get a steel rotery brush to fit on to a drill. It will remove the rust very quickly. Then get some rustproof paint on that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2007 23:32:08 GMT
Thanks for the advice. I was thinking myself buying rough sandpaper and scrub it to get the rust away and then using some rustproof paint on it.........Karma for the advice
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Post by rammstein on Jul 22, 2007 23:52:41 GMT
Ew...PAINT? Sorry tsafa, lets not get TOO sca on this now get the rust off then WD40 it till it explodes. T'would probably look less tacky than paint.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2007 21:19:27 GMT
If you have to have that shiny look, then waxing may be a good option. I know one guy that uses that method. You have to vigilant in replacing the wax as it wears.
Sorry Rammstine, I didn't mean to offend your senses, lol. I'm all about function, zero on looks. A lot of guys even in the SCA find my armor to be an eye-soar, but then I just club them a few times and they get over it, lol.
I actually use a rubberizing spray on the inside of the helmet and bottom half of the outside. This helps muffle the sound. Otherwise, I feel like my head is inside a bell when I get hit on the head. I then have red rustproof paint over that. The padding on the inside further muffles the sound. I did not rubberize the top/outside of the helmet in order to maintain a good deflective surface.
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Post by rammstein on Jul 25, 2007 21:31:32 GMT
no offense taken, my comment was meant in good humour
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Post by ShooterMike on Jul 26, 2007 1:27:05 GMT
I could be mistaken, but I seem to remember reading (myArmoury I think) that colorful paint schemes were fairly common on armor, especially shields and helms, from about 500 thru 1100 AD. Am I mistaken?
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Post by rammstein on Jul 26, 2007 1:33:40 GMT
Common, probably not. But it wouldn't be "out of place" or"rare." However, I think rust free paint would have been a no-no on a spangenhelm. Still, it may work, but I personally feel that exposed steel is far more attractive than paint - paint leaves a different finish, will feel different, and stands out like a sore thumb.
You're right though, there is a very beautiful sallet I recall having green and reds painted on it. Black and white armour of the 16th c. was made from painting some areas black and leaving the others exposed.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2007 19:10:28 GMT
Rust again!!!!! even when i smothered a generous coat of mineral oil over the helm, rust appeared again over the place most severely affected.
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