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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2008 1:22:39 GMT
This is actually a request for a review. I am looking at making my first sword purchase and I want to get a Wallace sword. Purposes would be twofold: 1) symbolism - all the things Wallace stood for and a reminder to fight the daily spiritual battle, not exactly a wall hanger but kind of and 2) cutting - namely jugs and bottles, maybe pumpkins.
I have searched high and low for a good review and there doesn't seem to be one. Brenno is highly impressive on You Tube with his version. I have narrowed it down to the Generation 2 or the Valiant Armoury versions and would be happy to receive anyone's input who owns or has experience selling these swords. I'm just a little worried about the durability of the tang due to the length of the sword.
Keeping in mind that symbolism is the first purpose, other suggestions such as LOTR or Gladiator swords that are also good cutters would be welcomed. Thanks.
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Post by themaster293 on Jan 2, 2008 1:31:37 GMT
Well, it depends on how much your willing to spend. The G2 version is stronger, BUT the Valiant Armory version is 2X cheaper.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2008 1:55:02 GMT
Yes, I am aware I can get the G2 roughly about $285 and the VA about $165.
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Post by rammstein on Jan 2, 2008 3:22:52 GMT
Not trying to burst your bubble but william wallace was an entirely different man than portrayed in braveheart. A freedom fighter, he most certainly was not...
All that he really stood for was fighting against the english. We can't allow ourselves to inflate it more than that.
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Post by Jeff K. ( Jak) on Jan 2, 2008 3:41:29 GMT
fighting against the english for freedom no? thay have after all at least two huge monuments dedicated to the man...but yeah the movie re-wrote history and credited Wallace deeds he may not have actualy accomplished for the sake of the movie...but he's still a national hero
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Post by YlliwCir on Jan 2, 2008 3:51:19 GMT
Oh sure we can, Rammy. It was a great movie! Reality, per usual, is a different story as you rightfully pointed out. However, I see no reason not to espouse the ideals expressed in the movie, historically supported or not. I like the look of the big movie type sword. I lusted after the VA one for quite some time untill I learned more about functional swords. I own a VA viking and while it is a sturdy sword, it is unweildy. mcd, to answer your question, of the two I think I'd pick the Gen2 one for funtion, tho keep in mind I've seen a review of neither and know no one who has one. For myself, I'll probably wait for a review.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2008 3:53:02 GMT
William Wallace was more of a raider then a freedom fighter. He was the son of a minor noble, (and a lowlander as well), and was more or less forced to fight the English because of the warrant for his arrest after a brawl involving English soldiers. He just happened to be doing so at the time of the War of Scottish Independance. Oh, and keep in mind, the Gen2 weighs about 6 pounds,IIRC. Then again that is historically accurate. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_SwordIt was just made for a very large man.
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Post by rammstein on Jan 2, 2008 3:58:11 GMT
DI, you never cease to impress me Strange...I just got smote'd
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2008 4:06:35 GMT
Really? For telling it like it is? Eh, I'll bump it back up. You keep seeming to hand me karma for no particular reason.
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Post by rammstein on Jan 2, 2008 4:13:17 GMT
Well I didn't karma you that time, but I AM very impressed with your surge of historical interest and knowledge. But we've said that before (Thanks for karma restore)
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on Jan 2, 2008 4:46:12 GMT
I don't have any experience with VA, but I'm sure either of those will be structurally OK. However I way prefer the look of the Gen 2 version. Although mine looks way more accurate to the movie than either of those, lol. Its just the grip - why do they make them round :X VA:Gen 2:Brenno Blades: (rock!)
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Post by themaster293 on Jan 2, 2008 4:51:05 GMT
I like the way the VA looks myself, but the G2 version would probably stand up to way more abuse.
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on Jan 2, 2008 4:53:42 GMT
Yeah I just prefer the cross on the G2, but at least the VA has the Leather wrap grip with the risers.
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Post by rammstein on Jan 2, 2008 14:23:37 GMT
Or you could buy from Del Tin, the people who actually made the sword for the movies. Should be a bit more expensieve though, like maybe as much as $400.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2008 15:42:08 GMT
Thanks RicWilly, I should have clarified that the symbolic nature was based off the ideals in the movie and not history. That's why I also included LOTR and Gladiator. You guys are very impressive with your historical knowledge and quick replies, please keep them coming.
The G2 also comes with a scabbard and the VA does not.
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Post by YlliwCir on Jan 2, 2008 16:36:49 GMT
I actually like the look of the VA better, actually (gasp!) Rittersteel makes one that I like the look of the best, tho I would be concered about the funtionality of it. The same could be said for the VA. At any rate while I still wouldn't mind a good "Wallace" sword, others have edged in front of it on my lust list.
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on Jan 3, 2008 2:50:53 GMT
Or you could buy from Del Tin, the people who actually made the sword for the movies. Should be a bit more expensieve though, like maybe as much as $400. . To quote Del Tin : "The blade, of chrome vanadium steel, is diamond in cross section " That says Stainless to me, making it a wallhanger. And it's not even a true replica of the film sword: *The quillions that come down the centre of the blade are about 20mm shorter on the replica. *The grip is narrower and rounder. *The grip risers are flat straps rather than cord. *The leather wrap on the Ricasso is much shorter on the Replica. Approximately 50mm. *The blade profile is stated to be diamond, but it is crearly octagonal.
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Post by rammstein on Jan 3, 2008 2:52:19 GMT
All I know is that Del Tin swords are very durable, historcally accurate, and they DID make the sword for the movie.
No idea how to prove that though.
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Post by rammstein on Jan 3, 2008 2:57:12 GMT
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on Jan 3, 2008 3:08:33 GMT
Yeah but it's Chrome Vanadium : Stainless Steel, and it is obviously completely different, just look at the photos. I know, it's BS, why not make it a real replica? whereas they have just come up with an expensive 'cheap' knockoff. It's infuriating, but look at the photos. How dare Del Tin do this to us?
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