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Post by Alec.M on Jan 8, 2013 2:31:59 GMT
I want to make a replica of orcrist from the movie The Hobbit and I thought I would use Ernie R from yeshuas sword to make the hilt parts but where can I find a blade similar to this. It's gotta be battle ready also. Here's the sword www.entertainmentearth.com/image ... 2928lg.jpg
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Post by Elheru Aran on Jan 8, 2013 4:43:02 GMT
Afraid you're out of luck as far as I know, *no* production blade in this type at all. You'll have to have it custom made somewhere.
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Post by Lunaman on Jan 8, 2013 4:52:08 GMT
Maybe you could modify a windlass raptor, but the blade's not wide enough for a completely accurate go. kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=501090Like Jeff said, custom blade would be the way to go if you want it done right. Brendan at Fableblades could do you a great one. Just be sure to make that grip more ergonomic, eh? :lol:
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Post by Elheru Aran on Jan 8, 2013 4:59:07 GMT
A quick addendum: bear in mind that you don't want to reproduce the prop design *too* closely... especially this close to the film coming out and all. LOTR has been out for a while and the prop copyrights have mostly expired, but this one the legal hawks will be watching for a little while yet!
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Post by Springs on Jan 8, 2013 5:01:34 GMT
Looks a lot like a kopis to me, but just much, much bigger, and with a straighter spine. Scorpion swords has the sword of Eli : The blade shape is similar, just smaller and with holes in it, also with a (slightly) curved spine.
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Post by Elheru Aran on Jan 8, 2013 5:18:53 GMT
I'm talkative tonight...
Yeah, that's a good point-- a straight-backed kopis would fit the general outline well.
The downside is that it's a good design for chopping/slashing cuts, but not really for anything else, especially the way most of them are done nowadays. Chris Palmer does good work, but the way he makes his pieces-- grinding them out of plate rather than forging-- means that he can't do particularly broad fullers, hollow grinds, etc as far as I know. This means that there's more weight in what is normally the lighter part of the blade.
If you look at the prop carefully (not the picture of a reproduction above, find some better pictures of the actual prop from the film), you can see two things: there's a fuller along the spine, and the edge is deeply hollow-ground or forged under the spine/fuller, giving it basically a T-backed blade with a very thin edge. This makes it strong enough to thrust, while retaining a thin edge for extremely sharp cutting, and keeping everything very light at the last half or three-quarters of the blade. This is hard to pull off!
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Post by aussie-rabbit on Jan 8, 2013 5:25:28 GMT
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Post by Anders on Jan 8, 2013 6:43:23 GMT
I'd say it looks more like an overgrown flyssa than a kopis: There's also a kinda bizarre Swedish cavalry saber with a similar design. Actually, I've been meaning to make a thread about that for ages now.
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Post by LeMal on Jan 8, 2013 13:19:48 GMT
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Post by Alec.M on Jan 8, 2013 21:29:09 GMT
What is this bizarre Swedish cavalry sabre?
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Post by Anders on Jan 9, 2013 3:03:49 GMT
It's called a Hafström saber, or Hafström's construction. Actually, they came as cavalry sabers, cutlasses/hangers and fascine knifes. As far as I can tell, the design was exclusively used in Sweden. It's quite fascinating.
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Post by kingrikoraru on Jan 10, 2013 6:08:22 GMT
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Post by Anders on Jan 10, 2013 11:11:27 GMT
Stainless, not actually combat ready.
Honestly, the best bet is probably to have it custom made. Ask Chris at Scorpion Swords what he'd want to make a bare blade - he seems affordable but I think the Defender is much too small for cleaving goblins.
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Post by chrisperoni on Jan 12, 2013 0:32:49 GMT
is the windlass one not suitable for use?
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Post by Lunaman on Jan 12, 2013 3:21:40 GMT
The link is just the united cutlery product being sold through the the MRL website. There is no windlass version.
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Post by chrisperoni on Jan 12, 2013 3:49:47 GMT
I see- so it's just the stainless one. ah well.
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