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Post by Bluntsword on Nov 27, 2012 23:45:26 GMT
From my understanding: A stainless steel display sword, if taken cared off and is only used for display: would last forever A Carbon Steel sword, "as above": would last forever Any sword, used for cutting: will eventually be useless. Every time it's polished/sharpened you reduce it's life(reducing it's meat/niku) And eventually the sword will get to a stage where you can't polish/sharpen it anymore and it's now a display sword only, I think. And if you continue with it eventually only option is to make it a waki, then a tanto after that???
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Post by Kumdoalan on Nov 28, 2012 0:45:27 GMT
Our swords will still be hanging around someplace well after we all are dust....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2012 2:11:07 GMT
Swords are just tools, and all tools wear out with use, it's the nature of all tools. The Buddhist philosophers tell us that all things are impermanent in this world, mistaking impermanent thing for permanent ones is a cause of suffering. Don't give youurself unecessary grief, either use the sword for cutting practice, you might wear it out, you might not, or buy two, keep one for display, one for use.
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Post by Rafael on Nov 28, 2012 3:46:43 GMT
with identical useage, a sword made out of harder steel is going to last alot longer than a sword made of softer steel because the softer steel loses its edge faster. The 1095 stuff is supposed to be very hard and said to rarely need sharpening on a sword that has been properly quenched. Keep in mind though that 1095 swords are going to be less flexible than softer steels, so they will be more prone to chipping or breaking from abuse or bad form (like twisting the blade during the cut). a katana made out of l6/ bainite would probably never need to be sharpened if all you did with it was cut mats, newspaper etc. since those cost thousands of dollars, i will probably not own one soon, and if i do purchase one i wont be trying to chop wood with it. A good compromise is stuff made out of t10 steel. I can say from some experience that T10, or what munetoshi calls T10, is very hard and keeps an edge like a champ. My T10 DH munetoshi wakizashi still slices paper readily, despite having been used to axe down hardwood during which the blade was stopped repeatedly by the mass of the wood. Ive havent needed to sharpen it yet. if you want a cutting sword that will last forever do these things: 1. cut soft targets 2. buy a good quality sword that has been properly forged (go with a reputable vendor like cold steel, cheness, hanwei or huanuo; munetoshi from swordnarmory seems pretty good to me also) 3. oil the sword very often, at least once a month even if you havent used the sword to cut 4. in general, and if you know what your doing go for harder, relatively more expensive steels. T10 and 1095 steel have good reputations for edge retention in the low to mid price range. between the two, T10 is supposed to be more flexible so it should be more forgiving of mistakes. 5. if you dont have much experience, go with something in 1055, 1060, 9260 spring steel or 5160 spring steel. although your sword will be a bit softer and require more sharpening, you will be less likely to break the sword by making a bad cut. not needing to sharpen a 1095 blade doesnt matter if you already broke it. 6. dont tell your wife or girlfriend how much you spent on the sword here is a good summary of different sword steels: www.sword-manufacturers-guide.co ... teels.html of course, another strategy for ensuring that your sword will outlive you involves any or all of the following: 1. be careless 2. drink alchohol or take drugs before cutting, cleaning, or transporting your sword 3. dont wear eye protection 4. dont seek any training 5. buy your wife or girlfriend a christmas present that costs less than your most recent sword purchase (that she knows about)
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Post by Tendrax on Nov 28, 2012 4:36:59 GMT
You are correct in theory, but if you're wearing out a sword within your lifetime you're probably polishing it far too often. :lol:
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2012 6:05:33 GMT
Similarly, rhe quickest way to outlive a katana is to do some destructive testing with it or cut materials that it was never designed to cut!
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Post by Svadilfari on Nov 28, 2012 6:35:47 GMT
Hey !!!...now, now..there are *some* female sword-philes around, I suspect !! :lol:
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2012 6:55:44 GMT
The word would be "spathophile" if I'm not mistaken!
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Post by Kumdoalan on Nov 28, 2012 11:37:03 GMT
so I guess you can get a sword today and treat it so baddy that you do out live it, but the most likely answer is that all your swords will be around long after you are gone.
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Post by Kuya on Nov 28, 2012 12:19:21 GMT
There are katana that were made and used back in the Samurai days that are still being sold/collected today.
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Post by aussie-rabbit on Nov 28, 2012 13:19:47 GMT
6. Add a few peers around on the weekend and say the immortal words - "Hey guys! wanna see what I can do with a sword?"
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Post by Tendrax on Nov 28, 2012 13:24:36 GMT
"Hold my beer and watch THIS!"
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Post by Marc Kaden Ridgeway on Nov 28, 2012 13:46:06 GMT
There is a inmutable law of physics called entropy. Entropy is what makes time directional , and is the engine that drives the universe.
Entropy states that all matter moves from order to disorder.
Eventually even the best cared for anything will become something else entirely
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Post by William Swiger on Nov 28, 2012 13:59:46 GMT
Sounds like spouses after quite a few years. :lol:
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Post by Bluntsword on Dec 2, 2012 6:13:34 GMT
OK, I completely understand now:
1) Don't abuse the sword (cut soft targets only). 2) Buy the misses something of equal or greater value. If I want to out live my swords.
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