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Post by chrisperoni on Jul 22, 2012 23:26:39 GMT
Hello all, By request I have put together a step by step video tutorial which outlines making a grip for a typical european style sword. Part 1 - Wood CorePart 2 - Risers and Cord UnderwrapPart 3 - Leather WrappingPart 4 - Colour Dye and Top Coat I know the videos run long but that was sort of the point. I wanted to include a lot of the little bits that are usually left for people to figure out for themselves. I hope you find these to be useful and informative and please feel free to sticky this post  |
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Post by jhart06 on Jul 23, 2012 1:48:55 GMT
if I had the sword, i'd snag the grip. Excellent vids man, thanks a lot. My youngest daughter is saving for a windlass XIV and wants to re-do the grip, so this will help her be able to do more of the process- i'm horrible at explaining things.
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Post by chrisperoni on Jul 23, 2012 15:28:04 GMT
Cool- I can't wait to see her sword and she's gonna love the feeling of customizing it |
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Post by tom555 on Jul 24, 2012 17:41:22 GMT
Great videos Chris, your a credit to the community.
Will be tryin this on my HT Viking sometime soon.
Regards
Tom
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Post by chrisperoni on Jul 25, 2012 3:12:52 GMT
cool. I like the sound of that |
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Post by jhart06 on Jul 25, 2012 3:23:37 GMT
Shared this out to a couple of re-enacting groups i've joined lately. Some of them could stand to learn it!
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Post by chrisperoni on Jul 25, 2012 13:06:48 GMT
Nice. I would imagine the hilts on their swords take a ton more abuse than the average collector/backyard cutter, so they'd need to remake parts often.
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Post by demonskull on Jul 25, 2012 14:36:19 GMT
Excellent tutorials. You did cover a lot of the little tips that most would have to learn on their own.
For those who looked at the run time and decided not to watch....Make the time, it's well worth it whether you're a novice or experienced.
Thanks, Pete
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Post by chrisperoni on Jul 25, 2012 23:07:53 GMT
that's a mighty fine endorsement, cheers. I did try to edit the vids down further but just couldn't bring myself to remove more.
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Post by jhart06 on Jul 26, 2012 1:00:21 GMT
Chris- Some of them have squishy rope across the tang with glued down spiral wrap of suede and a wire wrap across that, ala starfire. That's the bad end of things, but a good portion of most just don't know how to do it. In the modern age where we don't have serfs(note to self- file letter of complaint for that, every sword geek needs a serf) you need to know such things, even if only in theory.
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Post by Beaumont82 on Jul 26, 2012 4:49:43 GMT
Chris, thanks so much for the videos! Very helpful. I like your idea of doing a multi-piece laminate for the core rather than two piece and carving a channel, seems to be at the very least much less frustrating.  Can't wait for part 3! I do have one question: Is there a reason that you glue down the risers first and then wrap the core with cord, rather than doing the cord wrap first and then setting the risers? Seems if you did it the other way around you wouldn't need to bother with those annoying bits at either end, but maybe there's something in the process that I'm missing. |
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Post by chrisperoni on Jul 26, 2012 15:03:29 GMT
Cheers That'a a great question- I do it that way simply because it's how I was taught to do it I figured if it was good enough for these kickass sword makers and customizers it was good enough for me, lol. I think part of the reasoning is that the cording could still shift / wiggle a bit even if it's glued down in several spots- so putting risers right on the wood will make sure they do not move. Since making the video I have done other grips sometimes with & sometimes without the short bits of cord on each end. To date no one has advised me of any problems with my grips so knock on wood that overall the stability is still good either way. |
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Post by chrisperoni on Jul 26, 2012 15:28:44 GMT
note- I've added some annotations in the videos referencing slight changes in the case of peened hilts.
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Post by jhart06 on Jul 26, 2012 15:36:01 GMT
Chris nailed it- risers on top of cord has a higher chance of wiggle and coming apart. It's not much, but given it doesn't affect much to do risers first, no reason not to do it that way and prevent any possible hiccups.
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Post by chrisperoni on Jul 26, 2012 16:20:15 GMT
well glued risers will themselves help act in the same manner as the cord wrap. Not as well given they just go around a single turn, but still... fwiw- to test the strength, I took a hammer to the first wood core I ever made. It took about 10 real hits to crack it and then a couple more to shatter it. I would say the first 2 hits were about as hard as you strike a nail when setting into a piece of wood, the rest were as hard as you hit to drive that nail into the wood with force. Eventually the wood gave way but not at any of the glued seams- which makes sense since a proper glue bond should be stronger than the wood around it. I think I still have most of the pieces for reference. It was plenty strong |
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Post by jhart06 on Jul 26, 2012 18:11:19 GMT
That's a good bit of wood working you did there then. Jeesh. Remind me not to upset you with a hammer in your hand  |
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Post by chrisperoni on Jul 26, 2012 20:47:31 GMT
ya, I was hitting it at the side/seams and on the flats and it just took it. I figure with the cord wrap leather and all that glue the finished grips are sturdy enough for any accidental against something. Mind you, even though I seal the leather with a few coats of lacquer it could still get cut or scratched by say a blade strike. Hmmm, that might be fun to test- how many strikes before I can cut through a grip?
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Post by jhart06 on Jul 26, 2012 21:03:22 GMT
You're a mad-man...
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Post by chrisperoni on Jul 27, 2012 23:41:48 GMT
well, it's somewhere on my list now to make one and use it for cutting practice... On another note- I was all set to take the next part of the video when my battery ran out.... dang. Gonna have to wait for tomorrow morning now. edit/add: I've edited the OP to note that the wrapping and dying has been split into 2 videos, and Rob will be buying the grip. the grip is wrapped and tomorrow I'll be able to dye it and finish it. I'll post the last vids then. cheers |
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Post by chrisperoni on Jul 30, 2012 2:54:00 GMT
update - all done now Fixed OP to show all vids |
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Can't wait for part 3!
