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Post by dirtydan on Mar 5, 2012 1:07:43 GMT
It's mainly down to the Hanwei Military Dadao or the CS version. Hanwai's has a good rep and comes cheap, but the CS looks to have a better fit and finish. The Kris Cutlery one looks like it's the best quality but it's pretty short, more like a two handed butcher knife. Can anyone offer further feedback or diferent suggestions?
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Post by DavidW on Mar 5, 2012 19:02:52 GMT
As of what I know, I think the CS version is built extremely thick for heavy duty chopping of bamboo and whatnot. I've read in reviews that the CS dadao's edge comes far too thick for cutting light targets like bottles. The Kris cutlery one is too short IMO, and from CS rep in the sword community, their swords handle like a "sharpened crowbar". Though they are extremely tough and durable blades, CS tends to make their blades much thicker in order to achieve this goal. Consequently, they tend to be heavier than their historical counterparts (or other reproduction blades for that matter) I'd get the Hanwei Military dadao. From the reviews, the blades comes semi-sharp. viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2048&hilit=military+dadaoas you can see in the video in that review, the Hanwei dadao doesn't give clean cuts, but a strong diagonal chop at a steep angle will do the trick. Notice that with good edge alignment, one can get a very good cut, as seen by Greg's last cut in that vid. Meanwhile, with the CS dadao, you'd have no chance of cutting a bottle (exploding it, maybe....) So yeah, I'd go for the Hanwei because it's cheaper, it has a sharper edge, can take on both light and heavy targets, will probably handle better, is probably more historically accurate, and it comes with a pretty epic poster. Sure, it may not be as durable as the CS version, but the only kind of abuse that'd severely damage something as thick as the Hanwei dadao would be smashing it into concrete and/or trying to cut a tree down (actually, I'm pretty sure it could, but it would dull the edge). And if you want something that can cut wood, get an axe or machete. IMO, the Kris cutlery one is too short and the CS is overbuilt and overpriced.
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Post by dirtydan on Mar 5, 2012 21:31:36 GMT
Cool, thanks.
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Post by Rain on Mar 6, 2012 17:03:27 GMT
I have not used the Cold Steel Dadao, thought about buying one but it seems like for almost every person who picks one up and finds it well built somebody else finds poor/lose handel. I own both the Hanwei Militaryn Dadao and a Kris Cutlery Dadao. I like the Hanwei, it was dull when bought but after sharpening it cuts well and from some reviews here on SBG I feel it is very solid. I love the Kris Cutlery Dadao! I hear kris Cutlery is going to discontinue it and am thinking of picking up a second while I still can. The Kris Cutlery Dadao is a little shorter than the other two but when I am holding it, there is no mistaking its all sword and not to my mind knife like. The blade is flat ground with no secondary edge. A few lite strokes on a golden edge maker knife sharpener and its back to shaving sharp. It has a hardened edge and really takes/holds a sharp edge. I find it very fast and cuts mats like a sword should.
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Post by swordmaster0813 on Mar 6, 2012 17:31:11 GMT
yes wait one week to order and check out the new zombietools.net dadao it will FREAKING BLOW UR MIND I HAD THE PRIVILEGE TO BE ONE OF THE FIRST TWO ORDERS =D and seeing the pics im foaming at the mouth but its my choice for sure
also just a thought check out the enlightenment swords.com zhao dan dao very sweet
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Post by jhart06 on Mar 6, 2012 17:41:51 GMT
Zombie Tools, while great, are more tactical weaponry so I wouldn't recommend them to someone who does appear to be looking for a historically based weapon. They are great, but i've not seen much concern with traditional or historical precedents.
That said, I have no experience with any of the above asked brands/sword type, but what i've seen on the board does seem to indicate you will be happier with the hanwei over the CS
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Post by Greg on Mar 7, 2012 0:08:48 GMT
I am still a very big fan of my Hanwei Military Dadao. I spent a little time with the edge, using nothing but 400 grit sand paper, and now it gets silent cuts left and right. Redoing the grip was a fun project, so if you aren't incredibly wild about the current leather wrap, you could either just take off the leather and rewrap it in a solid sheet, or do like I did and take off all the wood to put on a new core.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2012 0:29:10 GMT
I have the regular Hanwei Dadao, not the military one, and when I was deciding which dadao to buy, I looked at this one and the CS dadao. I found the CS version's blade was very thick and the sword itself was quite heavy, and a bit smaller and more compact than the Hanwei, to me the CS dadao didn't handle as well. I think the Hanwei Dadao is closer to the actiual historical version, and the CS one is an even heavier beefed up version made to chop through anything - with a loss in handling as a tradeoff.
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Post by Sean (Shadowhowler) on Mar 7, 2012 2:08:52 GMT
I have the Kris Cutlery DaDao and its short but FAST... and as Rain pointed out its DH and has a solid sharp edge. A great cutter. I'm thinking of selling mine (I'm selling a lot of swords sadly) so if you want one cheaper let me know.
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Post by DavidW on Mar 7, 2012 6:54:16 GMT
ZombieTools makes really durable/tactical blades, but knowing them, that dadao probably costs over $400?
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Post by dirtydan on Mar 8, 2012 21:27:34 GMT
I'm going with the Hanwei Military Dadao but keep me updated on that, I'm interested.
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Post by Sean (Shadowhowler) on Mar 9, 2012 3:49:52 GMT
Whats to update? Its for sale...
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Post by bayareajohn on Mar 9, 2012 4:38:15 GMT
I have the Hanwei Warlord Dadao. Love it. Very durable. After 1 year the guard loosen up a tiny bit, doesn't bother me at all. I really like the look of the Military Dadao but it looks like the same blade with different fitting. Not sure I want to buy tghe same sword againg with different fitting.
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Post by anonymouse on May 17, 2012 8:26:30 GMT
Mine bent at the blade/tang junction today from just a moderately powerful downward chop with the upper 6" or so into my backyard. Dirt and grass -- nothing more. Whatever heat-treatment they gave it is crap. Unless that's typical of the model. Anyway, the condor one better work, because hanwei isn't getting my cash again.
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Post by bayareajohn on May 20, 2012 3:48:13 GMT
Sorry to hear about your Dadao. Would you kindly post some pics? I would like to know where is the weak point to avoid breaking mine. I saw a clip on youtube that a guy use Hanwei Dadao to break a concrete block, he mistake it from a cool steel dadao.
yes the condor one looks good. Good luck on your next purchase.
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