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Post by Larry Jordan on Nov 3, 2011 17:55:02 GMT
Hornady has even jumped on the Zombie bandwagon with its line of "Zombie Max" Ammo www.hornady.com/ammunition/zombiemaxBe PREPARED – supply yourself for the Zombie Apocalypse with Zombie Max™ ammunition from Hornady®! Loaded with PROVEN Z-Max™ bullets... yes PROVEN Z-Max™ bullets (have you seen a Zombie?). Make sure your "bug out bag" is ready with nothing but the best!One may not need "proven" Z-Max bullets to dispatch the undead. What do you think is sufficient (if not dramatic)?
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Post by Talon on Nov 3, 2011 18:29:27 GMT
zombie bullets :lol: .for me .22lr is fine and what i would take if i could,i know theres a lot of talk about lack of penetration,but from a rifle barrel and 50 yards and under i cant see any problems with it any further than 25 yards and i wouldn't waste a bullet,so for me its the humble .22 (we're talking slow romero zombie right) its freely available everywhere in the world,it's cheap and light weight,so i could carry 1000's of them unfortunately all i have is 12 gauge shotguns,not ideal as the ammo is bloody heavy and bulky :? given the option i'd have the .22lr used with a supressed ruger 10/22
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Post by Larry Jordan on Nov 3, 2011 19:06:19 GMT
I am not sure how much cranial disruption is required to neutralize the undead. A Congresswoman from AZ recovered from a 9mm headshot ( Tuscon shooting). The 22lr, if it does penetrate the skull, will probably expand within the essentially liquid medium which is the brain. It may be adequate. Better have an AR15 for backup just in case it isn't. Wound Ballistics22lr 5.56 Nato
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Post by Talon on Nov 3, 2011 19:26:15 GMT
hmmm i may rethink,though i know people have survived larger calibre gunshot wounds to the head,look at phineas gage he survived a tamping iron through the napper en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phineas_Gagemight be best to arm up with .22 and .223 and have a few research shots on the undead and see what results i get , i still am swayed by the .22 though ,even if in some cases i need to double tap the head,this sounds like a job for the mythbusters
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Post by Larry Jordan on Nov 3, 2011 20:32:20 GMT
WIll ZombieMax create unintentional liability on targets improperly identified as Zombies? Will it encourage head shots and unnecessary lethality?
The head is also a small target and there will be more misses, which will put bystanders at increased risk.
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Post by GUEST on Nov 3, 2011 20:35:17 GMT
If you've got a few zombies gaged up I can test 22lr, 32acp, 380acp, 9mm,38spl 357mag, 40, 10mm ,45acp ,44spl, and 44mag in pistol caliber, 22lr, 22mag 223rem, 22/250rem, 243win,357mag, 30m1 carbine,7.76X39mm 308win, 30/06sprg, 300win mag 7.92mm and 45/70govern't 44mag, in rifles. I think the hot I have in 45/70 would really explose a skull.
Might have left a few caliber off my list.
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Post by Neil G. on Nov 3, 2011 20:42:43 GMT
Man, those .45/70s are awesome rounds. My best friend's father had a Sharps Shiloh .45/70. One of those old fashioned single shot/break barrel/octagonal barrel designs that had dual triggers - one to set the hair trigger and then the trigger itself. I shot it a few times at an old tree stump and blew the crap out of it.
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Post by Talon on Nov 3, 2011 21:30:12 GMT
are you sure you've got enough calibre choice there fallen :lol: i'll take the 45/70 in a falling block sharp's please
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2011 22:07:14 GMT
Interesting. Not much info is given as to bullet design there though(?) (Hollow point, fragmenting, what???) There are those exploding Varmint rounds too which will limit overpenetration...honestly in combat, over-penetration AND riccochets are BOTH good IMO. I'm with Talon on the .22 LR's for zombie headshots.(If just a headshot was needed). But I was shooting a .22LR a few weeks ago, and IDK whether I've aged and become tougher or the ammo , which was stored in an unconditioned garage had become damp somehow (Possible???) ...anyway the .22 LRs were bouncing off cinderblocks at just 25 yards. :roll: Barely made the water shoot out of 12 oz. cans etc. either ...Got me to thinking of converting the bolt-action to .22WMRF
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Post by Lonely Wolf Forge on Nov 3, 2011 23:14:50 GMT
screw the .22.....why be under prepared. 7.62X39 100X the power, 100X the penetration, cheaper than bottled water, and fired from the most reliable Platform ever made. .223/5.56 for you AR guys. And for the old war horses... 7.62X51 (.308)
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Post by Bogus on Nov 3, 2011 23:30:34 GMT
If I had to pick a single caliber for the apocalypse I'd go with .22lr simply because there's enough of it in circulation to last everybody until the end of time as it is. Just go to the local sporting goods for a small box of ammo, you can get 20 rifle rounds, 50 9mm or 500+ .22. Kind of says it all really...
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Post by Lonely Wolf Forge on Nov 3, 2011 23:52:19 GMT
22 might b ok for night of the living dead slow zombies, but for fast zombies, and possible mutation zombies i want somethig bigger than a squirrel round
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Nov 3, 2011 23:58:15 GMT
Statistically speaking, Living Dead slow zombies are the most likely, as reanimated corpses have to deal with the calcium in their bones hardening, making it harder for them to move. Which brings up the question of what a .22 would do to said bones. Of course, why waste the bullets? If it's dead, moving or not, flesh rots. Unless there's some kinda freaky magic in whatever causes the dead to walk, their bodies would decompose pretty quick; especially down here in Texas or over in Arizona.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2011 0:08:37 GMT
how about in a lever action Marlin?
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Post by Lonely Wolf Forge on Nov 4, 2011 0:23:30 GMT
love both my Marlins...got a pistol grip styled 44 magnum, and a scopd 30-30. hella good guns
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Post by Larry Jordan on Nov 4, 2011 0:34:46 GMT
I think it's simply a colorful repackaging of their TAP or [superperformance] varmint ammo: polymer tip, thin jacket, rapidly expanding. The polymer tip may be a color other than the standard Hornady red (silver?).
I found a link for the movie that works:
Doesn't he know that only head shots are effective?
You 22lr guys might want to reevaluate.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2011 2:39:23 GMT
:lol: Guy in the vid might have gotten contaminated he was so close. I was listening to a radio show one time where the more psychological guy stated "zombies are fulfulling their primal needs,first awakening from the sleep of death,then wanting to EAT, then socialising a bit" But he stated "their next primal need would THEN possibly be SEX ..." :shock: :lol: Reminded me of this one time I went with a buddy to buy a semi-auto .22LR...We were driving home and in my headlights I saw an oposum laying in the road "playing dead" in my headlights. So I told him to get his .22 out of the box and load it up, and blast the thing for fun. He reluctantly did, and walked up and started blasting the thing...POP,POP,POP, POP,POP and chunks were flying off. But it didn't move at all so he kicked it and it was rigamortised already dead for days! :lol: Dang got to go for now
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Post by 14thforsaken on Nov 4, 2011 3:36:44 GMT
If I could use anything I wanted, I would use 50 caliber Raufoss rounds en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raufoss_Mk_211 I know its overkill but it certainly be fun to see a zombie blown away by one of these. But in most likelihood, I would use either 30-06 Springfield or .338 magnum. If, I had the time an access to the tools, I would drill them to be hollow points.
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Post by 14thforsaken on Nov 4, 2011 3:39:17 GMT
They're not just squirrel rounds, I used to deer hunt with a .22 and never had any problems bring one down. You just had to make sure of your shot.
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Post by iealchemist on Nov 4, 2011 4:30:52 GMT
.22lr is common, however I don't like it since the casings can't be re-used, and when your in a zombie apoc. situation, being able to recycle bullet parts during quiet times would be helpful (If you know how to do all that stuff.. ). I reckon i'd go with a 9mm, since it's fairly common and the casings are reusable. Although if i could I'd go with the .454 casull rounds. Those rounds in the Hellsing manga got me on to learning how to make bullets , although I doubt I'd make them made out of Silver from a cross from Lancaster Cathedral... ( hellsing.wikia.com/wiki/Hellsing_ARMS_Casull)
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