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Post by swordboy bringer of chaos on Mar 4, 2008 10:28:03 GMT
you mean you can get custom synthetic bokkens
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Post by salvatore on Mar 4, 2008 11:06:05 GMT
No, if you are speaking to me, that is not what I meant.
If anyone is interested in learning, I may be able to get a friend to teach you. This message is directed towards whomever.
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Post by swordboy bringer of chaos on Mar 4, 2008 11:12:00 GMT
I was and little accident pron me with blistering hot plastic no thanks I have enough scars from working in a rubbermaid plant some years back ..... ouch!!! hurts just thinking about it
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Post by salvatore on Mar 4, 2008 11:22:15 GMT
Hot plastic? Hmm...Sounds like something you'd use to torture someone with,lol.
Plastic is oil, so I'd only imagine it hurt like hell.
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Post by swordboy bringer of chaos on Mar 4, 2008 11:33:24 GMT
and than it hardens so when you peel it off it takes the flesh with it ..... it's like the band-aid from hell!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2008 16:19:45 GMT
From my experience of making bokken into ko-bokken (watch my bastardisation of an already bastardised term) I'd say make the one that breaks first into a wak! Although you'd have to be using a low quality bokken and actually break it to start with so that's out. Just curious about those who said they'd prefer a bokken to a shinken... would anyone mind giving their reasons? I'll throw my hat into the opposing corner - with a shinken you can achieve more damage with less effort. However, a shinken does have more mass and therefore more inertia which is both a positive and a negative. Where's a variable inertia weapon when you need one? Probably next to the lightsabre. Sure, a blade is limited (mostly, not entirely) to it's edge. It can also sustain damage, ie. bend, break etc. The bokken is not limited by it's "edge" and could be used as a staff. Not to mention one's form would not have to be perfect if found in an awkward body position to render a good strike. Then, for me at least, there is the whole psychological aspect of "choosing" whether or not I needed a "death strike". If a blade hits home, well, your opponent is dead. If a bokken does only what I need it to do, I can have tea with my opponent after he wakes up.
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Post by slav on Mar 4, 2008 17:45:15 GMT
damn near in-destructable high impact polymer like the same stuff glock frames are made of The Cold Steel bokuto is absolutely not made of polymer. It is high impact polypropolene, which is very different from what glock frames are made of. In fact, polypropolene is what garbage bags are made of . I like the idea of the CS bokken for a defense situation because of it's mass and it's toughness. But for Martial Arts and kata, I do not like it because it has just that little bit of flex that renders it awkward on quick directional transitions and on contact with the opposing bokuto.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2008 1:30:43 GMT
I recently bought a new bokken, and now I'm in a dilemma: which of the two should I make a wak? Most of you will probably say "the old one", and it's logically right. But after 2-3 years of training, beating trees and tires, hitting my other team mates and myself... I'm kinda attached to it. What do you say? Buy a wak bokken or just make one from the new one
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Post by oos3thoo on Mar 10, 2008 2:42:03 GMT
From my experience of making bokken into ko-bokken (watch my bastardisation of an already bastardised term) I'd say make the one that breaks first into a wak! Although you'd have to be using a low quality bokken and actually break it to start with so that's out. Just curious about those who said they'd prefer a bokken to a shinken... would anyone mind giving their reasons? I'll throw my hat into the opposing corner - with a shinken you can achieve more damage with less effort. However, a shinken does have more mass and therefore more inertia which is both a positive and a negative. Where's a variable inertia weapon when you need one? Probably next to the lightsabre. Sure, a blade is limited (mostly, not entirely) to it's edge. It can also sustain damage, ie. bend, break etc. The bokken is not limited by it's "edge" and could be used as a staff. Not to mention one's form would not have to be perfect if found in an awkward body position to render a good strike. Then, for me at least, there is the whole psychological aspect of "choosing" whether or not I needed a "death strike". If a blade hits home, well, your opponent is dead. If a bokken does only what I need it to do, I can have tea with my opponent after he wakes up. You are an odd, but very respectable person. You choose a bokken and think about consequences rather than saying Shinken and regretting it later. You truly are one with thought. +1 Karma for you.
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Post by slav on Mar 10, 2008 4:19:14 GMT
The simple truth of it is: anybody can pick up a solid piece of wood and do some damage with it. Not just anybody can pick up a sword and use it correctly and effectively. Thus a bokken is quite formidable indeed.
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Post by tajima on Mar 10, 2008 5:11:55 GMT
Hmmm.... Bokken or Shinken? Bokken. If I HAD a Shinken, there is almost no way in hell I would use it. I mean, who would want to chip such a fine weapon?
Anyway, a Bokken. Ah, the Bokken...Hit with any part of it and it will hurt. You do not skill, you do not need style and you do not need timing. Hell, you can use it as a short Jo if you want. Yes'm, a Bokken is by far my preffered weapon.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2008 10:52:24 GMT
Anyway, a Bokken. Ah, the Bokken...Hit with any part of it and it will hurt. You do not skill, you do not need style and you do not need timing. Hell, you can use it as a short Jo if you want. Yes'm, a Bokken is by far my preffered weapon. Thanks, -Tajima A short jo is called a Tanjo, Taj. Without any skill mate you would probably be best to run ;D.
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Post by swordboy bringer of chaos on Mar 10, 2008 11:30:24 GMT
as far as a bokken for self defence be carefull I trained/spared with friends useing a bokken a fad plunty of related injurys so in a self defence situation it would be easy to get out of hand and that could mean the differance between self defence and felony assult or man-slauder
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Post by tajima on Mar 10, 2008 20:26:04 GMT
Well, as one of the disciplines of my Kobudo, when we do Kuma-bokken, you can just feel tension. You both want to just smash the living crap out of each other.
That makes me laugh, Chop! I heard a joke about that the other day...I'll try and remember.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2008 2:58:34 GMT
You need skill with a bokken just as you need skill with anything, if you don't know where to hit or how to hit properly you aren't going to have much luck.
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Post by oos3thoo on Mar 11, 2008 3:39:53 GMT
I personally would rather have a sword though. You don't have to kill a person when pointing a weapon at them. Like with a gun when you shoot a man, you can just shoot his foot or his arm. Same goes with a sword.
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Post by tajima on Mar 11, 2008 5:02:03 GMT
@ Seth, then there is still a chance of a "bleed-to-death", as with a gun. Hit a major artery or vein and you're screwed. @bw, Lemme rephrase that. I meant training, (Skill/training, meh). Anyone can pick up a stick and hit someone in the head. Not anyone can pick up a shinken and efficiently slice someone. Sorry for that, hope that cleared it up a tad Thanks, -Tajima
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Post by salvatore on Mar 11, 2008 9:23:28 GMT
I think we can solve this.
Okay, in a bit of a dilemma. Either bokken, or shinken. The solution, go with an iaito! I agree with swordboy, a bokken can be snatched from your hand easily(Happened to me on a number of occasions...), a shinken, you kill your enemy easily, however, you have the intimidation factor, i.e, sharp steel. Though, you're enemy doesn't have to know that your sword is sharp, with an iaito, you have all the intimidation of a shinken, without the sharpness.
I think I would choose that, yep.
I do not think they would chance grabbing the blade of an iaito, so I think you are in the clear.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2008 9:58:00 GMT
No one has ever snatched a bokken from my hands, my weapon of choice is knives though so take that as you will. It is harder to kill someone with a shinken than you may think. I would prefer a bo staff or a naginata personally but I am not sure if they are a choice here.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2008 16:48:30 GMT
Bokken, the poor man's sword
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